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In somewhat related news... you'll be able to play PSOne games on your Vita on Aug 28th. One of the starting PSOne classics featured? None other than Final Fantasy 7 
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My Lovely Horse posted:Couldn't you just grab the one from an old PC disc? I have the disks and in fact I have an old installation of FF7 on an old hard disk. The directory structure is new and most of their changes are hooked into the new .exe, so really there's no point. My understanding is that the .exe modifications will all generally still work as long as they have the proper offset. I expect the mod community will use this version, especially because it uses Direct3d/ogg/etc. directly.
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Aug 15, 2012 22:44
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Happy Blue Cow posted:In somewhat related news... you'll be able to play PSOne games on your Vita on Aug 28th. Yeah but that one doesn't have the achievements!!
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Aug 15, 2012 23:27
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I like how completely ridiculous his stance looks when it's done by a more realistic looking model.
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Aug 16, 2012 07:47
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He's just stretching his quads dude. Gotta stay limber.
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Aug 16, 2012 16:00
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So I'm a few battles into FFT on the PSP and this is my first time playing it. Am I supposed to be rehiring my party after almost every battle, or am I just really bad at this? Ramza and the story characters are pretty much the only ones who survive each battle, with the hired squires just acting as meat shields. I just finished the battle in the woods after ditching castle guard duty- am I setting myself up for failure in the late game, or is that how early battles tend to go? Any other tips are greatly appreciated, although I already read the before I play entry on it. Thanks!
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Aug 16, 2012 17:31
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It's a good idea to pick a squad of five out of your team and use them exclusively. You'll want the ones with highest bravery for fighter jobs and the ones with highest Faith for mages. Also at that point you should have some other jobs than squire available - the standard characters don't benefit from it much beyond qualifying for other jobs and JP Boost. Change those guys and gals to Knights, Archers and Mages and get some better equipment. If you had a lot of units die on you you might have to take a break from the story and go grind some levels and job points for your newbies now. Failure in the late game is almost impossible for the same reason you don't want to get too attached to your guys. Although, do make Ramza into a character who can fight some tough solo battles, or you'll kick yourself later on. Specifically, make sure he has a way to deal consistently high damage and restore his HP. My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Aug 16, 2012 |
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Aug 16, 2012 17:38
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The most important thing in FFT is the, uh, whatever they called the time system in that game. AT? It's been a while since I played so I might get the buttons wrong, but hit triangle and a menu pops up. Click AT to see the turn order, and plan your moves around who's going to go next. Even better is when you're on a skill menu, (i.e., your cursor is hovering over 'Potion' or 'Lit 2'), hit the right directional button to see the list and how long that particular skill will take to complete. You'll be able to tell if a nearby enemy knight can act before, say, your priest finishes casting life on someone, resulting in her almost certain death (characters who are charging take bonus damage). Then you can prioritize a better course of action that's less likely to get you killed.
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Aug 16, 2012 17:41
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Make sure you learn JP + as a support skill early on before you graduate characters to newer classes. It's a pretty invaluable skill in the early game.
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Aug 16, 2012 17:43
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Oh and for God's sake, use two save files, and always keep one of them at a point where you're on the world map and can move around freely. There are some multi-stage 'castles' that can ruin your save files if you find you can't beat battle 2 or 3 in them.
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Aug 16, 2012 17:46
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Since it sounds like you're still struggling along with the base classes, put Item secondary on pretty much everyone and use potions if you need to. You can buy a LOT of potions for the amount of money it takes to buy a new recruit, so don't let your guys die. I know it's harsh, but you may even consider restarting since you're so early. Random battles scale to the level of the highest-level person on your team, which at this point is probably Ramza. Trying to train a bunch of level 1 recruits against a bunch of level 5 Chocobos can be a nightmare. Level disparity doesn't mean too much later on, but where you are it may be more trouble than it's worth to catch up. I'd probably do as people suggested- concentrate on Ramza and 4 generics with high Brave/Faith values, and don't let them die. Learn the potion and Phoenix Down skills as quickly as you can, and don't be afraid to use them. Avoid random battles for a while.
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Aug 16, 2012 18:04
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Schwartzcough posted:Since it sounds like you're still struggling along with the base classes, put Item secondary on pretty much everyone and use potions if you need to. You can buy a LOT of potions for the amount of money it takes to buy a new recruit, so don't let your guys die.
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Aug 16, 2012 20:08
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My favorite thing to do in FFT is to stick an AOE spell on one of my units and have him run into a crowd of enemies as a suicide bomber. Sometimes I even see the AI (which is surprisingly clever) do this.
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Aug 16, 2012 20:17
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Bonaventure posted:Oh and for God's sake, use two save files, and always keep one of them at a point where you're on the world map and can move around freely. There are some multi-stage 'castles' that can ruin your save files if you find you can't beat battle 2 or 3 in them. Star Ocean 2 has a place with a save point that can become impossible to get out 
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Aug 17, 2012 00:56
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Elentor posted:Star Ocean 2 has a place with a save point that can become impossible to get out It has, like, three of these. Two of them aren't even optional!
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Aug 17, 2012 01:12
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My Lovely Horse posted:It's a good idea to pick a squad of five out of your team and use them exclusively. You'll want the ones with highest bravery for fighter jobs and the ones with highest Faith for mages. Also at that point you should have some other jobs than squire available - the standard characters don't benefit from it much beyond qualifying for other jobs and JP Boost. Change those guys and gals to Knights, Archers and Mages and get some better equipment. If you had a lot of units die on you you might have to take a break from the story and go grind some levels and job points for your newbies now. Fluffy's guide to early FFT ease and xp/jp farming: Get JP on Ramza until he can get Gained JP Up and Yell(optional but helps). Once he has that, go straight for monk. Have two chemists, make them go black mage and white mage. After they have the basic spells (bolt/fire/ice and cure/prot/shell/raise) you can swap their roles so they get both sets. Have another character (or two) go knight. Ramza as a Squire (if still getting Gained JP Up) can attack/item/wish the knights to help get JP in that class and move to monk faster. As soon as Ramza gets to monk your goal is Chakra. Do not spend any JP until you have this. As soon as you have the JP for this you need to win the fight you're in and buy the skill. With Chakra equipped, get in to fights on the plain by coming in from the north (the castle). This positions you in a flat area and on your first turn you cam move everyone on to a flat area, meaning all your 0 height stuff (namely protect/shell/chakra) will hit all 5 spots. Position your characters as (roughly): OXO XXX OXO Ramza should be in the middle, your melee people would go on whichever ends will see the most attacks. It really doesn't matter though because that character's going to have shell and protect (and regen if you want) while getting Chakra'd every turn. What you do at this point is up to you. Getting gained JP up for everyone else should be done, but having white magic on 1-2 characters and black magic on 1-2 means that when the monsters come near, especially goblins, you can nuke them until there's 1 left, wounded and running away. You should grab Revive and other monk skills, also make your other melee guy(s) in to a monk and swap them in to the middle as needed. I usually have people just hit each other because  and because you have chakra going, you're never going to run out of MP, or cures, or attack magic. Early in the game you quite literally cannot die in this setup without trying to do so.The only real downside is you're not clearing tons of fights so you won't have a shitload of money. The upside is that you're gaining JP fast as hell. You're also going to be leveling very fast but that can be a downside because the challenge is pretty low when you're super charged and only at the earliest part of the game. e: tl;dr: Get a monk (or 2-3) with Chakra ASAP and your life becomes much easier early on.
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Aug 17, 2012 05:24
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If you want to avoid that leveling up problem, just get/keep one character at level 1. Their job is to wear your best armor and not do anything. You may want to get Equip Change for your characters (free from Chemist) so you can unequip your weapons on your actual fighters once the enemy threat has been mostly eliminated. Then stand around as described above with the level 1 character in the middle. Your Chakraer will heal your level 1 character while the other 3 characters hit them with the weakest attacks possible. You gain experience at 10 points per action, +1 for each level higher the target is, or -1 for each level lower the target is. So by only hitting the level 1 character, you'll be getting much less experience, down to 1 exp. per action when you hit level 10. Of course, none of this ridiculous grinding is necessary on a regular playthrough. Just play smart and pay careful attention to the AT List and you should be fine.
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Aug 17, 2012 05:37
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Another thing that surprisingly nobody has mentioned is the zodiac system. Zodiac compatibility will make or break the game for you. Signs with good compatibility (four months apart) get a 25% bonus to damage and hit rates (which affect positive status spells like haste too) against each other. Signs with bad compatibility (three months apart) get a 25% penalty against each other. Signs with best/worst compatibility (six months apart, and opposite/same sex respectively) get a 50% bonus/penalty, respectively, against each other. Having three units with mutually good compatibility (like scorpio-pisces-cancer) will make the game a lot easier for you.
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Aug 17, 2012 05:49
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If you're going to waste so much time JP farming why not just use the glitch?
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Aug 17, 2012 06:09
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Fister Roboto posted:Another thing that surprisingly nobody has mentioned is the zodiac system. Yeah, there's a chart on Gamefaqs that sums it up: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197339-final-fantasy-tactics/faqs/58503 Here's, also, a listing of all the bosses in the game and their zodiac signs: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197339-final-fantasy-tactics/faqs/23143
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Aug 17, 2012 06:25
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'd say that would depend on the skills you could get (since I doubt it'd just be all of them, considering how many are useless/redundant) but even if it was just Choco Cure/Ball/Esuna/Meteor it'd be more useful than Geomancy was. Didn't X-2 mod
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Aug 17, 2012 11:00
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So I downloaded and installed the new FFVII on my WinXP laptop, and everything went smoothly, from download » install » online activation, but when I click "Play" in the launcher, the menu just refreshes and nothing happens. My connection seems to be all right; I even hit "Test" a few times to double-check. Has anyone else experienced this problem, or is it just my old PC being old and bad?
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Aug 17, 2012 11:05
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I have never used Squares store, If I bought and installed this on my desktop is it going to try and make me rebuy it to put on my laptop?
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Aug 17, 2012 23:12
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Attitude Indicator posted:I like how completely ridiculous his stance looks when it's done by a more realistic looking model. I like how anyone with that much dedication to cleaning up the series would use the lovely AC outfits. Yes I'm that guy 
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Aug 18, 2012 02:33
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I totally abused that chakra thing and the JP glitch.penguinmambo posted:I like how anyone with that much dedication to cleaning up the series would use the lovely AC outfits. Yes I'm that guy  Why would you want Cloud in navy blue with a half skirt and one random sleeve? (Also why would you re-buy a fifteen year old game now with extra DRM crap?)
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Aug 18, 2012 05:49
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Welp, I'm an idiot- I was having trouble with the game because I didn't know I could push Triangle on the stat screen to change jobs / abilities / etc. Thanks everyone for the advice, I started over and I'm doing much much better this time.
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Aug 18, 2012 07:59
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DeathBySpoon posted:Welp, I'm an idiot- I was having trouble with the game because I didn't know I could push Triangle on the stat screen to change jobs / abilities / etc. Thanks everyone for the advice, I started over and I'm doing much much better this time. Don't feel bad, the first time I played I didn't realize you could select other units to dispatch by pressing L/R on the pre-battle formation screen.
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Aug 18, 2012 08:06
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TurnipFritter posted:Don't feel bad, the first time I played I didn't realize you could select other units to dispatch by pressing L/R on the pre-battle formation screen. I'm pretty sure almost everyone has done that. 
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Aug 18, 2012 08:38
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Francois Kofko posted:If you're going to waste so much time JP farming why not just use the glitch? If he's playing War of the Lions that glitch doesn't work anymore.
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Aug 18, 2012 10:53
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It took me a long time to realize that the towns actually had shops and stuff in FFT. I think it took me a little bit to find the job menu as well.
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Aug 18, 2012 10:58
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oshuaj posted:So I downloaded and installed the new FFVII on my WinXP laptop, and everything went smoothly, from download » install » online activation, but when I click "Play" in the launcher, the menu just refreshes and nothing happens. My connection seems to be all right; I even hit "Test" a few times to double-check. Turns out my directx was all screwy. Anyway, I know most people aren't impressed w/ this 2012 version of FFVII and maybe I just have low standards/expectations, but I really like what I've seen in the few hours I've played so far. It's not a great remake or remaster like some would have hoped, but just smoothing out the FMVs, sprites and text makes a world of difference to me vs my 1998 PC version. The DRM is a disappointment though as I suspect I'll have to repurchase it if I want to play it on a different PC?
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Aug 18, 2012 15:03
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remeez posted:I have never used Squares store, If I bought and installed this on my desktop is it going to try and make me rebuy it to put on my laptop? Don't buy anything directly from Square's shop. I tried to buy FFXIV and I read the fine print. It says that you only have 30 days to download the game and after that you have to buy it again. I think that's Digital River's download policy anyway. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though I've only bought one thing from their store.
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Aug 18, 2012 15:42
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remeez posted:I have never used Squares store, If I bought and installed this on my desktop is it going to try and make me rebuy it to put on my laptop? No. Hang on to your original downloaded file thogh because Digital River is stupid.
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Aug 18, 2012 21:34
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TurnipFritter posted:Don't feel bad, the first time I played I didn't realize you could select other units to dispatch by pressing L/R on the pre-battle formation screen. I actually quit the game as a kid because of this. I tried so hard to beat that first battle with just Ramza 
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Aug 18, 2012 21:41
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DeathBySpoon posted:I actually quit the game as a kid because of this. I tried so hard to beat that first battle with just Ramza Yeah, me too. Put me off the game for years. Then on my third time through I beat the game as solo Ramza for some sweet vindication 
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Aug 18, 2012 21:55
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Francois Kofko posted:If you're going to waste so much time JP farming why not just use the glitch? Which glitch and on what version does it work?
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Aug 19, 2012 02:13
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Evil Fluffy posted:Which glitch and on what version does it work? Probably referring to the JP Scroll glitch. It doesn't work on War of the Lions.
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Aug 19, 2012 02:15
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DeathBySpoon posted:I actually quit the game as a kid because of this. I tried so hard to beat that first battle with just Ramza Better: a friend of mine actually did beat the game all the way to the first Dorter battle (so like three or four battles) this way on his first playthrough. I discovered this when he declared it "impossibly difficult" and asked when he would get more party members.
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Aug 19, 2012 02:16
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penguinmambo posted:I like how anyone with that much dedication to cleaning up the series would use the lovely AC outfits. Yes I'm that guy It was mostly a test, I just grabbed the first model pack I could find. I ended up throwing it all out and finding an old copy of the original FF7 pc so I could load all the mods into it. The difference in quality is night and day and honestly I would not purchase the re-release. It's total garbage. This is how FF7 *can* look and sound on pc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e18Ay2kJE4
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flyboi posted:This is how FF7 *can* look and sound on pc: Oh, yeah. It's great how the characters are now disproportionate and wildly varying in quality, and the menus and text have all the visual style of someone's first Flash game. Vast improvement.
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