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Does anyone have the 11 inch Air? I'm thinking about a tiny machine for travel and writing and would love to know what people think about it.
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Nov 27, 2012 19:04
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Bring a charger. Other than that, I have no complaints. If this thing got 7 hour battery life I don't see how it could get more perfect.
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Nov 27, 2012 19:10
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WHOIS John Galt posted:Does anyone have the 11 inch Air? I'm thinking about a tiny machine for travel and writing and would love to know what people think about it. The only drawbacks are 4-5 hour battery life (which can be short compared to 7-8 hours) and 1366x768 screen. If you're doing development work or Photoshop you'll miss the extra room but if you're just writing and surfing the web it's perfect, it's hard to beat the size of that thing.
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Nov 27, 2012 19:53
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Bob Morales posted:The only drawbacks are 4-5 hour battery life (which can be short compared to 7-8 hours) and 1366x768 screen. Keyboard's kind of cramped.
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Nov 27, 2012 21:16
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printf posted:Keyboard's kind of cramped. Same size as every other Mac keyboard except for the thinner function keys.
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Nov 27, 2012 21:25
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WHOIS John Galt posted:Does anyone have the 11 inch Air? I'm thinking about a tiny machine for travel and writing and would love to know what people think about it. I used one about an hour and couldn't stand the huge resolution. I came really close to buying it because otherwise it's such a cool machine. Ultimately I went with the 13 because of the longer battery life and the SD slot. It's handy to keep my iTunes library on an SD card.
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Nov 27, 2012 21:33
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Mu Zeta posted:It's handy to keep my iTunes library on an SD card. That's a good idea. Do you play your music from there or just use it as a backup? Is that better/worse/the same as using an SSD for playback?
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Nov 27, 2012 21:46
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Suqit posted:That's a good idea. Do you play your music from there or just use it as a backup? Is that better/worse/the same as using an SSD for playback? Frees up room on your SSD (can be important if you're on a 128GB or *gasp* 64GB version). But there aren't many 64GB 13" Airs out there. You can always get one of these as well:  32GB USB Sandisk Cruz for $19.9, fits snug in the USB port and just barely sticks out, doesn't snag on stuff or fall out.
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Nov 27, 2012 21:49
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Bob Morales posted:Frees up room on your SSD (can be important if you're on a 128GB or *gasp* 64GB version). But there aren't many 64GB 13" Airs out there. Yeah I realize it frees up room. I just wonder if it works as seamlessly as using the SSD. Either way I need a 128 gb sd card so that won't work for me.
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Nov 27, 2012 21:53
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I always thought this was a convenient-looking Macbook Air storage solution: http://theniftyminidrive.com Unfortunately, the 11-inch lacks the SD card slot.
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Nov 27, 2012 21:55
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Suqit posted:Yeah I realize it frees up room. I just wonder if it works as seamlessly as using the SSD. Either way I need a 128 gb sd card so that won't work for me. As far as playback goes it's nearly seamless. You can even play HD movies from iTunes on it. It's only noticeably slow when you're adding new files to the SD. I bought an AmazonBasics 32gig SD card and it works fine. Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Nov 27, 2012 |
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Nov 27, 2012 22:07
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Woah, I was checking out this thread because BestBuy has some open box 11" MBA for $700 including sales tax and I was thinking about heading back and snagging one, bad idea? Is that 4-5 hour battery life under optimal conditions or is it a more realistic 3-4? Now I'm worried a bit, it was mainly for writing, browsing and playing around with iOS development again.
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Nov 27, 2012 22:36
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iostream.h posted:Is that 4-5 hour battery life under optimal conditions or is it a more realistic 3-4? If you've got pages with Flash on them and you're pegging the CPU and brightness cranked and your wifi AP is 2 floors up, you'll probably get 2-1/2 hours.
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Nov 27, 2012 22:41
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iostream.h posted:Woah, I was checking out this thread because BestBuy has some open box 11" MBA for $700 including sales tax and I was thinking about heading back and snagging one, bad idea? Here's what Ars Technica says about it quote:Apple gives the 11" MacBook Air a five-hour runtime rating, based on light Web use over a WiFi connection, which we found to be pretty spot on during testing. This involved using the Air regularly during a normal work day, with iChat, Colloquy, Tweetie, NetNewsWire, Mail, Safari, Pixelmator, and TextEdit constantly running, as well as a lot of alternating between browsing the Web and writing. Brightness of the LED-backlit display was set to just one notch under half (or seven pips). Under these conditions, the MacBook Air consistently ran slightly more than five hours, for an average of about 5:30. They also agree with Bob Morales about flash quote:Having Flash installed can cut battery runtime considerably—as much as 33 percent in our testing. With a handful of websites loaded in Safari, Flash-based ads kept the CPU running far more than seemed necessary, and the best time I recorded with Flash installed was just 4 hours. After deleting Flash, however, the MacBook Air ran for 6:02—with the exact same set of websites reloaded in Safari, and with static ads replacing the CPU-sucking Flash versions.
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Nov 27, 2012 22:49
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It'd be a miracle to get an 11" Air to go 5:30 while actually using it. Setting it to play iTunes and show Yahoo.com or something, I can see. I've had 3 11" Airs (2010 C2D 2GB/64GB, 2011 i5 2GB/64GB, 2011 i5 4GB/128GB) and they were all pretty much the same when it came to battery life. I've only had 1 13" Air (2011 i5 4GB/128GB), and it gets 6-7 hours with similar usage. I pretty much stick to Safari because Firefox likes to idle at 7-8% CPU usage for some reason and I may be sperging but it kills battery life.
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Nov 27, 2012 22:58
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I'm looking at the iMac prices and Apple is essentially charging $250 for a 128gig SSD. And it's only available on the $1500 and up models. The cheapest Fusion drive iMac you can buy costs $1750. Nobody asked for thinner desktops 
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Nov 27, 2012 23:24
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Bob Morales posted:I'd double-check on some Mac forums but in the past people have had sleep issues with their SSD in the optical bay, and also issues with the optical drive bay only being SATA 3Gb/s instead of 6Gb/s I doubt 3Gb/s vs 6Gb/s would make any practical difference (I was using a SATA 3Gb/s motherboard with an SSD in my desktop and I didn't notice anything when I upgraded), but I guess if there are other issues I'll just err on the side of caution and pull the disk drive and stick that in the optical bay. Thanks.
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Nov 27, 2012 23:25
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Mu Zeta posted:Nobody asked for thinner desktops Apple researched the miniaturization tech and goddamn it they're going to get the most out of it before the other civilizations catch up.
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Nov 27, 2012 23:27
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Bob Morales posted:
And then you lose one of the two ports the Air has. 
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Nov 27, 2012 23:36
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gmq posted:And then you lose one of the two ports the Air has. That's why I started off with an air then exchanged it for a pro. Got the 13"retina then realized that was dumb and exchanged it for the 15" retina and I'm happy.
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Nov 27, 2012 23:38
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xzzy posted:Apple researched the miniaturization tech and goddamn it they're going to get the most out of it before the other civilizations catch up. Not trying to say hasn't been Apple's way of life for quite some time now. But I would have been all over the base iMac if it could get a fusion drive, or if it came with one standard. Instead, I put my money into other companies, building my own hackintosh. Apple basically markets the iMac and Mac Mini as the fastest desktop for the footprint, however they still contain one of the worst performance bottlenecks in computing today.
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Nov 27, 2012 23:46
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cbirdsong posted:I always thought this was a convenient-looking Macbook Air storage solution: http://theniftyminidrive.com Nice, but what kind of speed are we talking about? Playing 1080p+ video directly from the card?
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Nov 27, 2012 23:47
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Mu Zeta posted:I'm looking at the iMac prices and Apple is essentially charging $250 for a 128gig SSD. And it's only available on the $1500 and up models. The cheapest Fusion drive iMac you can buy costs $1750. Where are you seeing these?
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Nov 27, 2012 23:54
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Haggins posted:Anyway, I'm wondering if Apple is going to do anything stupid; like make it so you can't upgrade the RAM without ungluing poo poo. I have a feeling the HD will be more of a bear to replace but I just hope the ram is still easy. Anyone know yet? You kidding? A sizable population of the 27" target market would loving riot if they bolted down the RAM. I'm sure Apple would love to do it- but they're savvy enough not to until probably after they launch a Mac Pro successor. That convenient RAM hatch is so obviously a "power user waiting for the next Mac Pro" concession.
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Nov 27, 2012 23:58
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I'm thinking about upgrading my home Plex server from a 2009 mac mini (2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB Ram) to the the new 2012 model with the i7, as the current CPU is a bottleneck for transcoding. I'd like the new machine to have an SSD, but the $300 Apple add-on is pretty steep, especially considering all data is on the NAS. Is it possible to swap out the default drive with 128GB SSD from NewEgg, or do the drives require some sort of Apple proprietary magic to make them work as a boot drive.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:00
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Electric Bugaloo posted:You kidding? A sizable population of the 27" target market would loving riot if they bolted down the RAM. I'm sure Apple would love to do it- but they're savvy enough not to until probably after they launch a Mac Pro successor. I'd say the same about about Macbook Pros but we've lost HD access, RAM access, and CD drives. The iMac seems to be going in this direction as well.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:38
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Haggins posted:I'd say the same about about Macbook Pros but we've lost HD access, RAM access, and CD drives. The iMac seems to be going in this direction as well. That's why I said "until the new Mac Pro comes out." If the rumors surrounding it have correctly pegged it at 'early 2013,' then I wouldn't be shocked if this were the last iMac to have accessible RAM.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:42
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Actually I'll be a mother fucker, according to Mac Rumors they did do it: 21.5" iMac Has No User-Upgradable RAM; 27" Has Four Accessible RAM Slots quote:Consistent with Apple's quest to make its new computers as thin as possible at the expense of expandability, the new 21.5" iMac contains no user-accessible RAM slots. Instead, it can be configured with 8GB or 16GB of RAM direct from the factory. This was first noticed by Cult of Mac.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:44
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Maybe you can add RAM, you just have to pop the glass off first.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:47
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So... When I finally get my new iMac... How hard is it to transfer software? I know there's a tool to transfer your existing software setup to a new Mac, I've just never tried it. Anyone have any luck? It's crucial that I move Logic Pro and Adobe CS over otherwise I have to go and get the external disc drive and well gently caress that I don't want to. 
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Nov 28, 2012 00:50
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lowercasejames posted:So... When I finally get my new iMac... How hard is it to transfer software? I know there's a tool to transfer your existing software setup to a new Mac, I've just never tried it. Anyone have any luck? It's crucial that I move Logic Pro and Adobe CS over otherwise I have to go and get the external disc drive and well gently caress that I don't want to. You should have no problems using Migration Assistant. I usually use it from a time machine backup on an external drive, but I believe you and just directly connect the machines (via firewire? ethernet?) and do it that way.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:54
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Haggins posted:Actually I'll be a mother fucker, according to Mac Rumors they did do it: How is that different from what you posted from the Apple website? They made it pretty clear: No access on the 21.5" model, RAM hatch on the 27". Also, it looks like the prices have been leaked: MacRumors posted:
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Nov 28, 2012 01:36
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Bob Morales posted:Maybe you can add RAM, you just have to pop the glass off first. Isn't the glass on the new macs way harder to remove than the last gen stuff? EDIT - I take that back as I haven't actually seen a teardown of the new ones yet, I must have been thinking of the last gen teardown coupled with how the new screen layout is. Either way it looks more challenging than before. Baller Witness Bro fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 28, 2012 |
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Nov 28, 2012 03:21
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I'm in the market for a new MBA (after reading the glowing reviews and buying advice in this very thread!) and I have a question. Is there any difference between a 2011 and a 2012 Macbook Air? I'm looking at refurbs, obviously. e: Looks like there's more difference than I expected - 1.7 Ghz processor vs 1.8GHz, Intel HD Graphics "3000" vs "4000", 4GB of 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM vs 4GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM. The main difference between the two models I'm looking at is the 2011 has 256GB of flash storage (and is an extra 100 bucks) and the 2012 has 128GB. So I guess my better question is, is the extra 128 GB of flash storage worth 100 bucks and the inferior components I mentioned above? AndrewP fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Nov 28, 2012 |
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Nov 28, 2012 03:41
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Get the 2012. The HD4000 is much better than the older card and USB3 is awesome. I can live with 128gig flash, but I also have an external USB3 2TB drive, a 64gig SD card and a 32gig flash drive.
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Nov 28, 2012 03:59
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At least on the 27" iMac you won't have to pay the apple premium for 32Gb of memory, though for the 21" $200 for 16 is less atrocious than in the past. I am absolutely going to order the max spec 27" option and get decent ram aftermarket unless Apple is actually reasonable. Any reason to get a 3Tb fusion drive, or is that just silly?
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Nov 28, 2012 04:21
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barfoid posted:ugh. how long did it take to show up? what exactly did you try telling them before you went to the apple store? what did you say when you were there? It happened a couple months into ownership. It shocked me when I used the "Solid Gray Dark" solid background color and saw my previous windows burned in. I made a request with the Genius bar regarding image retention. I stated that images were staying on the screen for long periods of time after displaying a window or text for 2-4 minutes. When I got there, I sat with the laptop open on a couple windows and the dark gray BG. I then showed the genius the burn in with the windows 'etched' into the BG when I minimized everything. He agreed it was a problem and admitted Apple knows about the issue. He ran the test and confirmed it failed. I inquired about the test and he stated that the screen will be replaced if the laptop shows retention for longer than 4-5 minutes. Some more information: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1422669 Checkerboard tester: http://www.marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html (the tech said this is the exact same test Apple performs) To check your panel, run the following in Terminal: code:
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Nov 28, 2012 04:30
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My mom is rocking my G4 tower we got in 2002 when I went to college as her daily use computer and I'd really like to get her a Mac mini for Christmas. Unfortunately with finances the way they are I really can't afford a new model, but I figure since her computing needs are very basic (streaming tv on hulu and CBS, webbrowsing, email) I could probably get her an older model and save a bit. So two questions! One, what should be my cutoff of mini models in terms of this computer not being able to update flash or anything like that, and two, where would be a place to start looking to buy an older machine?
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Nov 28, 2012 04:35
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Quidnose posted:My mom is rocking my G4 tower we got in 2002 when I went to college as her daily use computer and I'd really like to get her a Mac mini for Christmas. Unfortunately with finances the way they are I really can't afford a new model, but I figure since her computing needs are very basic (streaming tv on hulu and CBS, webbrowsing, email) I could probably get her an older model and save a bit.
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Nov 28, 2012 04:39
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Any reason not to get a second hand iMac rather than mini? They always seem better value to me. Anyway in terms of vintage, a good cutoff point is whether they can run the latest OS. http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/ iMac (Mid 2007 or newer) MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer) MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer) MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer) Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer) Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer) Xserve (Early 2009)
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