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The gang couldn't sell guns legally because they are a gang, and also because they are felons. They can't even own a gun.
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vyst posted:I want the season to end with Donal Logue killing the entire Teller family and anyone even tangently related to them. Kids too. All of them. Then he sits down, has a beer and credits roll. Then the next season is about Donal Logue in a Max Payne-esque revenge violenceporn show where he goes out and just murders gang people because why the gently caress not. can he team up with Cho from the Mentalist? He needs a new gig.
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Nov 28, 2012 19:29
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Armyman25 posted:It's because the HD riding fans of the show think drug dealers are the lowest of the low but guns are really cool, man! Selling drugs is bad, but selling fully automatic weapons to gang members on behalf of terrorists is good. Sounds like sound logic to me. I wonder how many children have been killed by stray rounds from guns sold by SAMCRO
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Nov 28, 2012 19:31
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Just watched all 5 seasons of the show over the last few weeks and I love it. Usually this means that whenever I go into the goon threads to read about the show all the goons hate it. I laughed out loud when I went into this thread and noticed the exact same pattern
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Nov 28, 2012 19:31
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I think it is pretty cool that you can articulate yourself so well despite being legally mentally handicapped
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Nov 28, 2012 19:38
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maffew buildings posted:I think it is pretty cool that you can articulate yourself so well despite being legally mentally handicapped His mom does the typing for him.
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Nov 28, 2012 19:39
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h_double posted:Sutter's said the show is loosely based on Hamlet, and will follow that arc until the very end, so it's pretty much a given that Jax and Clay will hang in there until they meet their demise in the finale. This show is good illustration of why dramatic tragedy only really works in a tight, succinct format like a 2-3 hour stage play or movie -- anything much more than that and the central tragic conflict can't keep building inertia and turns into a mess. So, will Tara commit suicide then? Honestly, how many Sons do you guys see standing at the end of this cluster? Also, what's the over/under on Tig being alive at the end of this season? If they leave it on a cliffhanger, so help me I will drive to LA and immolate Sutter.
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Nov 28, 2012 19:59
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cornface posted:The gang couldn't sell guns legally because they are a gang, and also because they are felons. They can't even own a gun. Really? That is the same as saying they can't sell drugs because they aren't allowed to own it. Step 1 Create front company (Clay has done this at least 3 or 4 times on the show) Step 2 Have front company apply for FFL07 Step 3 License likeness rights to front company to produce SOA guns for you. Step 4 Collect money from Front Company's sale of firearms. AT no point are the felons or the gang 'technically' in charge of the company, guns etc but they still reap the profits. This kind of poo poo happens all the time.
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Nov 28, 2012 20:07
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Fat Ogre posted:Really? A criminal gang starting up a front company to get a federal fireams license is really pushing the boundaries of "legally," which was sort of the qualifier there. It also means that it isn't anything like saying they aren't allowed to sell drugs because they aren't allowed to own them. Because that is illegal, too. edit: There is also no reason for them to do this because if they are going to just go into retail and not sell guns to other gangs, there is no reason for them to go into guns at all. Just sell motorcycles or some other random crap.
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Nov 28, 2012 20:14
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Soothing Vapors posted:HAHAHAHAHA, seriously? Yeah that line was so bad.
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Nov 28, 2012 20:23
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Was this the first byz-lats mention in the show?
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Nov 28, 2012 20:34
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cornface posted:The gang couldn't sell guns legally because they are a gang, and also because they are felons. They can't even own a gun. Well, they're felons on parole, and one of the conditions of their parole is they can't wear gang colors, and yet they haul around wearing their cuts in public like it ain't no thing.
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Nov 28, 2012 21:05
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h_double posted:Specifically, they are smuggling Qassam rockets bought from Hamas. Kornets actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet Now, to give credit where credit is due. Sutter DID in fact bother to look on wikipedia and see that Hamas has actually used at least one. HOWEVER, this is like trying to smuggle cigarettes out of a prison. Seriously? loving Gaza? Those 2-3 months for what? To dig another tunnel to Egypt? How about just dealing with the Syrian hookup directly? Or how about just getting some loving HJ-8s? And of course, this entirely ignores the basic issue behind all of this of "why the gently caress are you smuggling this poo poo through the US?" Pro-PRC Laowai fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Nov 28, 2012 |
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Nov 28, 2012 21:30
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niethan posted:Was this the first byz-lats mention in the show? I think so, but the One-Niners have been brought up in the past, which is another street gang from The Shield. I believe they happen in the same 'world'. I like when shows do this with some sublety. There was a one-off shot in The Walking Dead of some blue meth, indicating TWD and Breaking Bad also occupy the same universe as far as the story goes.
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Nov 28, 2012 22:11
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niethan posted:Was this the first byz-lats mention in the show? Pretty sure Jimmy Smitts mentioned them last week too when he was telling whoever about shooting one of his own guys (that guy being Aceveda's mouth rapist from the Shield).
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:And of course, this entirely ignores the basic issue behind all of this of "why the gently caress are you smuggling this poo poo through the US?" I know I should dislike a lot more about this show, but this stuff has bothered since forever. I understood it when it was selling guns to other gangs. As soon as it involved foreign countries.. ugh.
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:Kornets actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet That was a Kornet they showed off to the cartel last night, but the week before, Lin said that one of the weapons he had a line on was Qassam rockets.
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Nov 28, 2012 22:31
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Zzulu posted:Just watched all 5 seasons of the show over the last few weeks and I love it. I also binged through the show over the past few weeks, and my general impressions are as follows. Season 1: Okay, cool, this is basically GTA: The TV series. I enjoy the great cast, the creative ridiculousness, and how it often goes against expectations (like having the crooked sheriff and stick-up-his-rear end deputy turn out to be likeable and sympathetic). Plus, Stahl is a great foil. Season 2: Holy poo poo, Henry Rollins out of nowhere. Zobel is a great villain, the Gemma stuff (and Gemma/Unser relationship) are actually pretty compelling. This is pretty good TV. Season 3: A mixed bag. The Ireland stuff is pretty dumb and drags on way too long. On the other hand, I almost always hate storylines about babies because babies are boring and an emotionally manipulative macguffin, but the whole thing with Jax and the priest was actually pretty well done. Also holy poo poo, what an amazing finale. Season 4: Oh sweet, special guest Danny Trejo. Once things get rolling, umm, err, yeah. Season 5: Facepalm: the TV series.
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Fat Ogre posted:Just turn your brain off when it comes to gun running on this show. It makes ZERO loving sense. The Sons had a machine shop/smithing warehouse way back in the glory days of the first season. The Mayans blew it up. Instead of doing the smart thing by quietly rebuilding it and restarting their operations after making peace, the Sons instead went in the complete batshit insane opposite direction because Kurt Sutter. Can the OP for season 6 just be nothing by the "gently caress YOU KURT SUTTER" sparklee gif bracketed by browalk.gif and sutterfap.gif? That's really all the context you need to understand this show at this point.
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suboptimal posted:The Sons had a machine shop/smithing warehouse way back in the glory days of the first season. The Mayans blew it up. Instead of doing the smart thing by quietly rebuilding it and restarting their operations after making peace, the Sons instead went in the complete batshit insane opposite direction because Kurt Sutter. Have you looked at the OP of the current thread, because that is pretty much what it already is.
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Nov 28, 2012 23:11
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So is that three loving extended episodes in a row? Every single episode of Justifed's next season better be two hours long. The Louis CK thing was joke all along, wasn't it?
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There'd be a lot less complaints about this show if you guys just do what I do and get really drunk before watching it. The drunker you are, the better it is.
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Nov 28, 2012 23:34
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cornface posted:Have you looked at the OP of the current thread, because that is pretty much what it already is. Oh hot drat, I hadn't looked at the first page of the thread for months. Yeah, that'll do.
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Someone requested Kurt do an IAMA on reddit and I trashed SOA in the thread and got massively downvoted haha.
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:Jax shooting up Adriana with Heroin after she kicked it just seems more evil than anything Clay ever did. Yeah, that was cold as gently caress. Seams posted:So the AV Club gave the episode an A which is baffling to me considering the reception of the episode here. Of course critical views are entirely subjective (and I don't agree with giving letter grades for things like this) but usually there is some kind of consensus over what constitutes a good episode of TV and what doesn't. Have we all just checked out the show entirely, and are now watching it to roll our eyes at Jax's bro-walking and lovely accent? You know, I liked this episode... when I thought it was the finale. I was sitting here thinking "Huh, as much as I disliked certain aspects of this season, like Opie's death and the endless ENDLESS chase-with-loud-music montages (which if they'd removed would mean we wouldn't need four 90 minute episodes), that actually ended well. Clay's out, Jax has his end game in sight, there are new alliances and lots of things were left to pick up next year." Can't wait to see how they gently caress it up next week!
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Zzulu posted:Just watched all 5 seasons of the show over the last few weeks and I love it. Usually this means that whenever I go into the goon threads to read about the show all the goons hate it. I laughed out loud when I went into this thread and noticed the exact same pattern The show is perfectly serviceable when you can binge through it. It's when you're watching it week to week that the storylines drag and the "will they won't they" gets incredibly old. I remember being really sour on S3 until someone gave me the DVDs and I could watch it in big chunks. Still, nothing can forgive the S4 finale dumbness.
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I sat down over a few days and watched all of S5, and my god I have no words to express the emptiness for this show. The only moment in this series I actually liked was the random sale of guns to Nero's boys where they were ambushed and all amp'd up about shooting dudes and getting away in a station wagon. Otherwise, everything else (except Opie's death) was very forgettable. Anyways, Chibs for Pres, everyone else can just piss off. 
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Woof the last couple ep....I mean...I don't even know. Outside of SA this show, weeds, and dexter seem to still be considered "really good tv" which blows my loving mind. Those people are crazy.
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Nov 29, 2012 08:08
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At any dark point in any show, some internet defender will describe the show as, "At least it's better than 99% of the other crap out there." SOA season 5 is a rare example where that is not said.
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At least it's better than 1% of the other crap out there.
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Donny Brook posted:At least it's better than 1% of the other crap out there.
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h_double posted:Season 5: Facepalm: the TV series. This really should be the thread title. All of it is just too  for words. My personal appalling highlight was Jax being completely blindsided that Chinese-Mafia-Man couldn't start illegal delivery of Qassam (hahahaha) rockets and other hardware in two days:Chinese Mafia: So yeah, we can get you this stuff, but it's gonna take a while to set up the pipeline. Jax:  what now? Now we have to use Clay. Again. You told me this was like a supermarket, where you can start delivery tomorrow.
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Nov 29, 2012 13:41
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To be fair, he told Jax two weeks.
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Pufflekins posted:There'd be a lot less complaints about this show if you guys just do what I do and get really drunk before watching it. The drunker you are, the better it is. This is true. Very true. The last ep. almost seemed decent, but I watched it at the end of the night after about 7 beers.
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Pufflekins posted:There'd be a lot less complaints about this show if you guys just do what I do and get really drunk before watching it. The drunker you are, the better it is. Ditto, except bong rips at every commercial break. Then ranting at my GF about how I would do poo poo if I was in the MC. Then we talk about how we should just watch The Shield again.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Then we talk about how we should just watch The Shield again. And experience an entirely different set of Kurt Sutter's weird fetishes.
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With Donal Logue being a US Marshal I'm still holding out hope that Raylan shows up and kills everyone when the Marshals come to investigate Logue's dealings. Honestly Raylan killing everyone, Tara ending up in Prison with nothing to show for dancing with the Derpvil and Abel & Thomas wind up in CPS custody would redeem this whole lovely season and show.
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Interview with Donal Logue about Lee Toric. "I’m going to bring a shocking level of violence to show you what your perspective of right and wrong is is wrong"
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Fat Ogre posted:With Donal Logue being a US Marshal I'm still holding out hope that Raylan shows up and kills everyone when the Marshals come to investigate Logue's dealings. This kind of thing should be in the OP, because we are all thinking it.
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