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coconono posted:Weren't the fans brought in at gunpoint? Did you know that every match he did was a 5 star classic?
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MassRayPer posted:OH IT IS NOW RACIST THAT I POINT OUT MEXICANS LIKE PINATAS? GREAT, BETTER SCRAP THE NAPPING JANITOR GIMMICK I HAD SET FOR SUPER CALO! I really want to know what the angle was that Konnan has made reference to that led to Russo hiding in a limo because so many of the Mexican wrestlers were angry with him.
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Frot Lesnar posted:Do you mean Kwang or Tensai? Meng. please don't kill me Meng
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flashy_mcflash posted:Meng. He will not killl you but get rid of your pesky nose problem.
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coconono posted:Weren't the fans brought in at gunpoint? I doubt it was literally at gun point, but everyone there would know they had no choice but to go. Hell, it's worse in a way since it everyone going would know they better go and look good or they might end up moved to the countryside or in a concentration camp. The people with the best family background and service to the party get to live in and around Pyongyang, and would be the ones who would attend these shows. They want the event to have propaganda value, so the best fed, best dressed juche believing folk will get the wonderful opportunity to go!
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MassRayPer posted:I doubt it was literally at gun point, but everyone there would know they had no choice but to go. Hell, it's worse in a way since it everyone going would know they better go and look good or they might end up moved to the countryside or in a concentration camp. The people with the best family background and service to the party get to live in and around Pyongyang, and would be the ones who would attend these shows. They want the event to have propaganda value, so the best fed, best dressed juche believing folk will get the wonderful opportunity to go! Although not in the same ballpark Vince used to force employees to stay late to be the audience while filming Prime Time Wrestling.
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Frot Lesnar posted:Although not in the same ballpark Vince used to force employees to stay late to be the audience while filming Prime Time Wrestling. Or the time some puro company wouldn't let Meltzer or any of the fans leave a TV taping even though it was like 2 in the morning.
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MassRayPer posted:Or the time some puro company wouldn't let Meltzer or any of the fans leave a TV taping even though it was like 2 in the morning. this one im unfamiliar with.
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John Cena posted:this one im unfamiliar with. I remember they didn't want the results to leak before the event aired or ended but the promotion and everything else escapes me.
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Frot Lesnar posted:I remember they didn't want the results to leak before the event aired or ended but the promotion and everything else escapes me. I think it was joshi.
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Frot Lesnar posted:Although not in the same ballpark Vince used to force employees to stay late to be the audience while filming Prime Time Wrestling. Overworking employees is terrible, but the difference between that and North Korea is like being stabbed with a letter opener and being 'stabbed' with a chainsaw. But yeah, both Bischoff and Flair were on that tour and both talk about it in their books; Bischoff recounts how he was taken in front of a statue for the recently deceased Kim Il-Sung and 'interviewed' about all the North Koreans 'incinerated' by American bombs (ie slag your country for propaganda purposes) and when Flair left he was told to give a speech espousing how sorry he was about Sung's death: when he just gave a generic speech instead, it was translated as that anyway. Flair also recounts a blackly amusing story while he was sitting with the generals and military command during the show and one of them SLOWWWLLLY began to clue in that pro wrestling was not a legitimate sporting event.
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Cornwind Evil posted:Flair also recounts a blackly amusing story while he was sitting with the generals and military command during the show and one of them SLOWWWLLLY began to clue in that pro wrestling was not a legitimate sporting event. I hope it was a Korean version of the Trolls 2 "Oh My God" reaction.
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Retail Slave posted:Yes, it looks like poo poo and like they're desperate for money. Just like it does for major boxing events, UFC, the NFL, the NBA, the MLB, major college sports...
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I think the problem with pro-wrestling is it's acting, so ads are kinda distracting like in the movies.
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Numero6 posted:I think the problem with pro-wrestling is it's acting, so ads are kinda distracting like in the movies. I kinda see it from the perspective that things like MMA and boxing are most often done as pay-per-views which usually have no commercial breaks, so putting advertising on the mat and around the ring is just compensating for that loss of time where they'd normally be selling commerical slots. By contrast, wrestling shows have tons of commercial breaks, so putting advertising on the mat there is an overload and feels much more intrusive. E: And thinking about this advertising topic reminded me of when Mean Gene was cutting promos for the N64 game Beetle Adventure Racing during shows. I think they were running a contest to give away a Beetle at the time too, or maybe I'm remembering that part wrong. Scirocco Griffon fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jan 19, 2013 |
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MassRayPer posted:I think it was joshi. Yeah, he was there with the 123 Kid and he haddn't slept and once he got in he couldn't get out. But saw the best battle royal ever.
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MassRayPer posted:It was a pair New Japan shows with one WCW contracted wrestler on one of the shows. WCW just had an agreement with New Japan to promote certain "co-promotions" on PPV. Right now in the back issue of the Observer we are getting a great example of WCW's "greatness" at putting on shows with foreign workers. During the build up to Starrcade 95 they had Sonny Onoo "buy" WCW Pro airtime and then do an old timey racist Japanese foreign manager gimmick as the New Japan workers in this timeslot played foreign heels. Even Liger. You sure read an awful lot into a short post. Maybe you should sit down.
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Retail Slave posted:Yes, it looks like poo poo and like they're desperate for money. I really don't think you understand how sponsorship works. E; To bring it back to racing, Michael Schumacher, who isn't exactly Flair in the "needs money" department, got paid millions of dollars in his heyday just to wear a drat hat with a sponsor logo on it during interviews. hunnert car pileup fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jan 19, 2013 |
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In fairness, as useless as both of them are, ringwork wise, Warrior vs Goldberg WOULD have been big money, assuming Russo managed to not gently caress it up.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:In fairness, as useless as both of them are, ringwork wise, Warrior vs Goldberg WOULD have been big money, assuming Russo managed to not gently caress it up. That match would happen in 1999 or 2000, by then it wouldn't be big money at all. Realistically any Warrior match in WCW wasn't going to be worth the money he was getting paid after the build up to Havoc 98. That show's buyrate was a huge disappointment.
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Warrior did brought huge ratings just before he made people flee with his awful long-rear end promos.
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Numero6 posted:Warrior did brought huge ratings just before he made people flee with his awful long-rear end promos. His first promo was supposed to be two minutes to make people want more but he rambled on for 20 minutes.
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Frot Lesnar posted:His first promo was supposed to be two minutes to make people want more but he rambled on for 20 minutes. Classic case of people being excited to hear him start talking until the point they realized he wouldn't stop talking and didn't make any damned sense. Been there. Worked in health care for group home people. That first day when you walk up to someone and ask how they are and get "Blue banana go bye bye" as a response. Kind of a long form version of that.
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I remember flipping from Raw to Nitro for that Warrior promo and being so excited since it was an older guy my dad remembered and he looked really interesting and then a few minutes later getting bored and going right back to Raw. Warrior really is an extreme case of "less is more".
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Warrior's first promo was pretty good all the way through. Everything after was loving terrible.
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I don't think it's possible to miss the point more than they did with Warrior. Hey, it's this intense guy who got over by running to the ring, being insane and smashing the poo poo out of heels everyone hated. So let's have him cut half hour promos and never fight anyone.
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LividLiquid posted:Warrior's first promo was pretty good all the way through. Everything after was loving terrible. He committed the cardinal sin, the #1 no-no in the business by reminding people he already beat Hogan.* *ignore all the times Hogan did this throughout his career and give Hulkster some sympy
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Frot Lesnar posted:He committed the cardinal sin, the #1 no-no in the business by reminding people he already beat Hogan.* I thought the cardinal sin was mentioning that Hogan is bald?
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Frot Lesnar posted:He committed the cardinal sin, the #1 no-no in the business by reminding people he already beat Hogan.* This, to me remains the most fascinating thing Hogan has said about wrestling. He usually attempts to look like he gets wrestling and isn't an egotistical maniac who hates losing, but here he lets that all go.
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:I thought the cardinal sin was mentioning that Hogan is bald? 
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Hogan's wig in 1996 was pretty great.
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LividLiquid posted:Holy crap. Is this real? I don't remember this at all. 
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DeathChicken posted:I don't think it's possible to miss the point more than they did with Warrior. Hey, it's this intense guy who got over by running to the ring, being insane and smashing the poo poo out of heels everyone hated. So let's have him cut half hour promos and never fight anyone. Also, he's magic now for some reason.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Hogan's wig in 1996 was pretty great. I remember a bunch of us watching that in Synchtube and being really confused as to why Hogan had a full head of hair
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Cardboard Box posted:I remember a bunch of us watching that in Synchtube and being really confused as to why Hogan had a full head of hair On that show or Nitro, he was in the crowd with other nWo guys and I couldn't figure out who it was.
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Cardboard Box posted:I remember a bunch of us watching that in Synchtube and being really confused as to why Hogan had a full head of hair I think he was filming 3 Ninjas at the time.
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Oh hey, during these times WCW wasn't aired in France so I had to use a german channel to get it (DSF), they had a DSF-only feud between Tom Gerhardt (an awful comedian) and Berlyn that would lead a match in a german house show. Does anyone remember that? I couldn't find a video on youtube or dailymotion but I remember he had The Mamalukes, and maybe The Wall, wearing his ridiculous clothes as a backup during the match. I wish someone had the entire feud uploaded because it was so bad and made Berlyn looking like a total goof.
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MassRayPer posted:I think he was filming 3 Ninjas at the time. That's exactly right. That was the hair his character had in the seminal classic "3 Ninjas: High Noon At Mega Mountain".
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SamuraiFoochs posted:That's exactly right. That was the hair his character had in the seminal classic "3 Ninjas: High Noon At Mega Mountain". The best thing about that "movie" is that he is top billed and he is in it for maybe 20 minutes at the most.
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