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Sadly that kit is fairly common here, there is even another SW20 with it listed http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/toyota/mr2/auction-564623487.htm
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Spades posted:Given this is NZ, a workable (with factory-original oil leaks) MR2 Turbo can be had for $2000-$3000; for $10,000 you're in beat up R32 GTR territory. "I've got it up for sale! I'm really trying, honest." dissss posted:Sadly that kit is fairly common here, there is even another SW20 with it listed Reminds me of the  Celica.
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Anphear posted:The piece I enjoy is the pod filter sticking out of the body kit in the first pic and this gem. That's funny because it's at least 13+ years out of style with the Veilside kit and the chrome wheels. 
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They only want $7500 for this... http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=328397932&listingIndex=2&Log=0 The interior is similarly ridiculous.
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Feb 26, 2013 15:31
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There appears to be a mirror under the hood.
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Feb 26, 2013 15:53
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quote:totally chromed engine bay with stainless steel mirrored hood Yep. 
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When Jalopnik posted that stupid loving new Cherokee and didn't rip it to shreds was the point where I decided to stop reading Jalopnik entirely. Cherokee is back y'all!!! barf.
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RadioPassive posted:They only want $7500 for this... I think this thread has come full circle.
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 I see old riced Civics all the time, but an otherwise stock newish Corolla?
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For a change of pace from blinged uglywagens: Friend's Altezza at a track day I went along to - turbocharging the engine to make 400 horsepower worked fine as a street car, but once you've got that much heat four inches from a frontmounted battery, well, it gets warm.  And confession time: I honestly like my dice [I have not seen a psychiatrist yet]. 
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Pseudonym posted:I think this thread has come full circle. It has. That's from the Wildwood boardwalk show, where, in 2010, was squatting this abomination:    Arrr.
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PainterofCrap posted:It has. That's from the Wildwood boardwalk show, where, in 2010, was squatting this abomination: I really want to like it, but I just can't. So many reasons. I don't know how but the colour combinations even make the interior look really cramped.
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Whoever made the call to kill off the PT Cruiser did Good Taste such a favor. We'll be seeing them for years to come of course but eventually they will just find their way into the back rows of the wrecking yard and we will never speak of them again.
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Shifty Pony posted:Whoever made the call to kill off the PT Cruiser did Good Taste such a favor. We'll be seeing them for years to come of course but eventually they will just find their way into the back rows of the wrecking yard and we will never speak of them again. One day the PT Cruiser will become so rare that they will go for ridiculous 6 figure sums at auctions. On that day, I will know it is time to die.
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I remember when I first heard about the PT Cruiser, I thought it was great that a major car manufacturer was finally looking back to the incredible, organic styling of the beautiful cars of the 60s for inspiration. Boy, was I wrong.
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Remember when they first came out? Dealers were marking them $2-5k over msrp, people were practically lined up outside of chrysler dealers to waste their money. That was '99 though, and they hadn't completely destroyed their reputation at the time. They made a huge piece of poo poo, but damnit, every old fart that knew nothing about cars wanted one.
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The thing that bothers me about the PT Cruiser is that at no point has it ever seemed like a good looking, well performing, practical, reliable or comfortable car - there's absolutely no appeal regardless of the way you look at it. Seemingly everything about it is wrong and terrible and yet people still buy them.
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Spades posted:The thing that bothers me about the PT Cruiser is that at no point has it ever seemed like a good looking, well performing, practical, reliable or comfortable car - there's absolutely no appeal regardless of the way you look at it. Seemingly everything about it is wrong and terrible and yet people still buy them. It came out in 2000, reminder that in 2000 the J-body and the Escort still have 4 or 5 years of life to go and were selling in the hundreds of thousands. It was eminently practical especially for small businesses - the rear seats could be taken out and you had a large cargo area with a flat loading floor thanks to the relatively sophisticated Watt's linkage rear suspension. It was also I suspect the cheapest convertible you could get and definitely the only one with 4 doors.
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But the convertibles only had two doors, didn't they?PainterofCrap posted:It has. That's from the Wildwood boardwalk show, where, in 2010, was squatting this abomination: Oh god, my eyes. I need new retinas and about six years of psychotherapy. Spongebob Tampax posted:Remember when they first came out? Dealers were marking them $2-5k over msrp, people were practically lined up outside of chrysler dealers to waste their money. That was '99 though, and they hadn't completely destroyed their reputation at the time. When I first met her in 2000, my wife wanted one so drat bad. Then, in 2002, her sister bought one (using my wife's SS# to secure the loan, by the way). After riding in it her opinion did a quick 180.
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Before the PT was released I thought it was a great idea. Especially the back seats and the luggage area shape. It was also meant to be affordable. And then it was released. It was so long ago I don't remember. I'd like to say it was something like $42 000 but I just don't know. I know it was nearly twice what the RRP was meant to be. They could have done so much with the idea but they didn't. Such a shame.
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/\/\ Nah, my base model was like $24k tops. Gorilla Salad posted:I remember when I first heard about the PT Cruiser, I thought it was great that a major car manufacturer was finally looking back to the incredible, organic styling of the beautiful cars of the 60s for inspiration. I'll come out and admit before I drove Caddys I had one. I first saw a picture of one as a 2 page spread ad in Rolling Stone or some other music rag and I was floored. There was no info, no price, but it was like nothing I'd ever seen. So retro, so different, I had to have one. I thought they'd be like some $50k car though. When I got a salaried job I was finally able to get one in late 2000. They were still on order so I had to call around a 50 mile radius to find a dealer that had one kicking around the lot that was the color I wanted (silver, not purple!). It was only around $20k, which I could afford. They were still pretty rare, so it turned a lot of heads The Pros? -rode smooth -took it all around the country for work, and it easily fit all my luggage -comfortable ride for those long trips...now that I drive a Cadillac I know what a real luxury car is, but for my first "new" car it was great -insane cargo room with a hatchback -lasted forever-it lasted 250,000 miles and if I'd changed the oil better it would have gone longer Cons -was cool for about a year, then they were everywhere and people were mocking them -the "PT Cruiser Community" -4 cylinders, lowest power engine I ever had -frame rusted out (granted I do live in the NE) -needed a lot of repairs On the whole though, it lasted 10 years and I put a ton of miles on it. Even though I got shafted with my loan rate from Chrysler I more than got my money's worth. Now that I know a bit more about cars and what to look for I can easily see the problems. Of course, at the time I was in my early 20s and would freely admit I was more concerned about looks than performance. And when I bought it I never could have predicted it would get as nerdy as it did.
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Spongebob Tampax posted:Remember when they first came out? Dealers were marking them $2-5k over msrp, people were practically lined up outside of chrysler dealers to waste their money. That was '99 though, and they hadn't completely destroyed their reputation at the time. My grandfather bought/reserved one of the first ones that were being delivered to their area. That engine was under powered for three people in the car on flat ground yet that didn't stop him from trying to pull a 13' Boston Whaler with it to go crabbing. I can't imagine owning one in an area with hills. He lived in a major retirement area near the beach (although he didn't move there, it became one around him) and you couldn't park anywhere without coming out to a flock of people with an average age of 70 surrounding the car. They were absolutely doomed from the start if they ever hoped to attract the mythical younger crowd that all of the cheap "hip" cars of that time were aiming for. And what the gently caress was up with the window control placement? Dead center on the dash in between the two center vents. Not on the console, center of the loving dash where it was guaranteed to be the most incontinent thing in the car or either the passenger or the drive to reach short of putting the passenger control in the driver door and vice-versa.
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Astroman posted:/\/\ He's in Australia, so clearly the pricing was hosed in the exchange.
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VikingSkull posted:That totally figures, haha. Man I haven't been to New Paltz in years even though I'm like 20 minutes away. That car should totally be parked outside of Joe's on a Friday night. Random question then, do you know Billy Richards?
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Shifty Pony posted:And what the gently caress was up with the window control placement? Dead center on the dash in between the two center vents. Not on the console, center of the loving dash where it was guaranteed to be the most incontinent thing in the car or either the passenger or the drive to reach short of putting the passenger control in the driver door and vice-versa. Don't Minis have their window controls in the same place?
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Safety Dance posted:Don't Minis have their window controls in the same place? As does every small Fiat made since electric windows became an option. My Panda had them next to the gear stick, no problem at all. My parents' old Mercedes 190 had all four window controls near the gear stick as well, along with the power mirror adjustment. Worked perfectly fine.
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Saturns also had the window controls on the center console. As lovely as PT Cruisers are, they didn't start that bullshit.
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EightBit posted:Saturns also had the window controls on the center console. As lovely as PT Cruisers are, they didn't start that bullshit. Started with the late 80's Grand Prix and Beretta, I believe.
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C3 Corvettes and third generation Camaros had power window switches in the center console as well. From what I am gathering, it was actually pretty common.
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So did my 89 Chevy Corsica. News thread title: Every car had center power window switches.
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Geirskogul posted:Every car had center power window switches. ... and that's how we liked it, dammit.
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EightBit posted:Saturns also had the window controls on the center console . As lovely as PT Cruisers are, they didn't start that bullshit. This is a reasonable control location, easily accessible to both the seated driver and passenger:  This is the Pt, and it is a real pain to reach and use without getting out of the driving position: 
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I dunno, they look perfectly reachable to me. If you have trouble reaching those, you're probably sitting farther away from the steering wheel than ideal, unless you have long legs. For instance, the seat looks like it's too far from the steering wheel to me.
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Alphius posted:C3 Corvettes and third generation Camaros had power window switches in the center console as well. From what I am gathering, it was actually pretty common. It goes back to at least 1965 on the Corvette. I assume to '63 but I haven't seen it. I know '59 had them on the doors.
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KozmoNaut posted:I dunno, they look perfectly reachable to me. If you have trouble reaching those, you're probably sitting farther away from the steering wheel than ideal, unless you have long legs. For instance, the seat looks like it's too far from the steering wheel to me. Wrong. Imagine your averate PT Loser Cruiser driver. There is no way in hell they can reach those over their humongous panus. Also, that interior is AMAZINGLY lovely looking. Is it as horrible as it looks to touch?
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veedubfreak posted:
Much, much worse. I had to detail one, it was staggeringly terrible in every possible respect. Pretty much all Chryslers of that era were of similar "quality".
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KozmoNaut posted:I dunno, they look perfectly reachable to me. If you have trouble reaching those, you're probably sitting farther away from the steering wheel than ideal, unless you have long legs. For instance, the seat looks like it's too far from the steering wheel to me. I suppose I have t-rex arms with awful deltoids or something. For me in a comfortable driving position they were in an annoying place to reach. I suppose that just emphasizes how important a test drive is. The interior was incredibly cheap feeling. I heard it got even worse toward the end of the run as they kept cutting costs.
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My overall seat position is dictated by still having a slight bend in the knee with the clutch fully pressed. I like the steering wheel up close and personal, and my seat back quite upright. Those two combined should let me put both wrists on top of the wheel while my shoulders are touching the seat. For me, this is really comfortable and puts me well within reach of everything on the dash, but I guess it depends a lot on body type and distance to the pedals and so on. Basically everyone I know likes the seat back really reclined, but it's so much more comfortable being a bit more upright.
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Ideal driving position: 
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