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Pillman was so loving savvy when it came to poo poo like this. He played drat near everyone in the entire company like a fiddle. Hogan WISHES he had the backstage nous that Pillman had. Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Mar 13, 2013 |
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Tato posted:I'm going nuts because I can't remember if it was on the radio or in the Observer back issues, but recently Meltzer was talking about the horrible Doomsday Cage Match and revealed that apparently Hulk Hogan REALLY REALLY wanted Brian Pillman to be in that match as one of the numerous people Hogan squashed because he was so threatened by Pillman's outsider act getting over. Like, to the point where Hulk and the front office were calling Pillman almost every day begging him to take the match so Hogan could squash him. Pillman, always smart, decided to get his voicebox surgery during that period instead so that he could claim he wasn't medically cleared to wrestle. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I could listen to these stories coming to light of Hogan being a huge piece of poo poo all day long. C'mon, who's got some more. WCW must've been overflowing with 'em.
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Mar 13, 2013 22:39
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There was that one time where Hulk was on a radio show and was asked by a caller why guys like Perry Saturn and the like weren't being given a bigger role on the show. Hulk casually made some vanilla midget joke and then said that guys his size didn't draw. That same week it came out that Perry Saturn was in a segment with a higher rating that Hulk Hogan on the same show. I mean that's the bare bones of the story, someone else could probably fill in the details and maybe correct me if I got the wrong cruiserweight.
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Mar 13, 2013 22:47
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Tato posted:I'm going nuts because I can't remember if it was on the radio or in the Observer back issues, but recently Meltzer was talking about the horrible Doomsday Cage Match and revealed that apparently Hulk Hogan REALLY REALLY wanted Brian Pillman to be in that match as one of the numerous people Hogan squashed because he was so threatened by Pillman's outsider act getting over. Like, to the point where Hulk and the front office were calling Pillman almost every day begging him to take the match so Hogan could squash him. Pillman, always smart, decided to get his voicebox surgery during that period instead so that he could claim he wasn't medically cleared to wrestle.
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Mar 13, 2013 22:59
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Tato posted:I'm going nuts because I can't remember if it was on the radio or in the Observer back issues, but recently Meltzer was talking about the horrible Doomsday Cage Match and revealed that apparently Hulk Hogan REALLY REALLY wanted Brian Pillman to be in that match as one of the numerous people Hogan squashed because he was so threatened by Pillman's outsider act getting over. Like, to the point where Hulk and the front office were calling Pillman almost every day begging him to take the match so Hogan could squash him. Pillman, always smart, decided to get his voicebox surgery during that period instead so that he could claim he wasn't medically cleared to wrestle.
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Mar 13, 2013 23:04
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Pillman at one point planned to show up to a Madison Square Garden event, jump the rail and challenge Shawn Michaels to a fight. Pillman was also the original Social Media wrestler as he used to post on AOL all of the time.
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Mar 14, 2013 00:04
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Brian Pillman was just too great for this world.
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Mar 14, 2013 00:16
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Pillman made about 30K setting up a wrestling hotline after he conned Bischoff into his release.
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MassRayPer posted:Pillman made about 30K setting up a wrestling hotline after he conned Bischoff into his release. The story of how he got his release still makes me smile. It was running the long con to the nth degree, it was beautiful.
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TONIGHT AT 9 PM: HULK HOGAN BURIES EVERYONE http://www.synchtube.com/r/sunsweet WCW MONDAY NIGHT NITRO ONLY ON TNT
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Mar 14, 2013 00:58
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Hmmm I might have to be in for this, if the big boys are playing...
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triplexpac posted:Hmmm I might have to be in for this, if the big boys are playing... That was last night.
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Whatever is on the synchtube right now is amazing - WCW - Nitro 01-08-96. Hogan and Macho Man vs. Flair and Anderson. Well, Benoit vs. "Das Wunderkind" before it is also pretty terrifying.
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MassRayPer posted:TONIGHT AT 9 PM: HULK HOGAN BURIES EVERYONE Yep, gonna get in on this. Gonna be late but gonna get in
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Nilbop posted:Yep, gonna get in on this. Very late, that was posted on Tuesday.
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Random, but does anyone have the date for when Sting stopped talking? After he first appeared in his black and white facepaint for the first time?
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SteelAngel2000 posted:Random, but does anyone have the date for when Sting stopped talking? After he first appeared in his black and white facepaint for the first time? The last time he talked was his prematch promo at Fall Brawl 96.
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MassRayPer posted:The last time he talked was his prematch promo at Fall Brawl 96. I thought he had a post-FB96 promo where he had his back to the hard camera and basically did the whole "If you're still with me, we're cool, but the rest of you can go screw yourselves" thing.
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Renaissance Spam posted:I thought he had a post-FB96 promo where he had his back to the hard camera and basically did the whole "If you're still with me, we're cool, but the rest of you can go screw yourselves" thing. Maybe... I thought he just walked out. I might be wrong.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Very late, that was posted on Tuesday. That's what I get for posting at work.
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http://youtu.be/ZtTj7LnjKhU?t=2m14s From the September 16 Nitro.
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Renaissance Spam posted:http://youtu.be/ZtTj7LnjKhU?t=2m14s I believe he spoke one more time after reappearing in the white and black and beating down the fake Sting. EDIT: Found it. October 21. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ4cxshKslY disaster pastor fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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MassRayPer posted:Maybe... I thought he just walked out. I might be wrong. Don't you remember STING TURNING HIS BACK ON WCW?!?!?!?!?!
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tzirean posted:I believe he spoke one more time after reappearing in the white and black and beating down the fake Sting. This is it, perfect. Thanks!
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There's a best of war games DVD coming out in June. It's hosted by dusty Rhodes. I'm so pumped. I wonder if it will include the 98 horsemen vs nwo. Because you know, someone was in that. Also the Henning turn was dumb as poo poo and totally pointless. Also, that someone should have been the enforcer of the horseman, not Henning.
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It'll be good to have those really good two War Games on DVD. And those really terrible war games on DVD too. I might actually but it. 
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The American Dream posted:There's a best of war games DVD coming out in June. It's hosted by dusty Rhodes. I'm so pumped. I wonder if it will include the 98 horsemen vs nwo. Because you know, someone was in that. Also the Henning turn was dumb as poo poo and totally pointless. Also, that someone should have been the enforcer of the horseman, not Henning. I loved that turn. I thought it was one of the best done rehashes of that angle, and got me totally into Flair going after Hennig that fall.
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I felt like the nwo didn't need him. While a strong horsemen doing horsemen poo poo would have been what the nwo vs wcw feud needed. Make them the cool face tweeners against the nwo cool heels
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The American Dream posted:I felt like the nwo didn't need him. While a strong horsemen doing horsemen poo poo would have been what the nwo vs wcw feud needed. Make them the cool face tweeners against the nwo cool heels It didn't, but eh, maybe I'm easy to please. I also feel like it had the added benefit of making things feel that much more dire for WCW as we approached Sting vs Hogan, where Sting would vanquish the evil nWo.
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VogeGandire posted:The story of how he got his release still makes me smile. It was running the long con to the nth degree, it was beautiful. What's the story on this?
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AsInHowe posted:What's the story on this? He was booked in a storyline where he was feuding with Sullivan and they did a worked shoot where he was "fired" for breaking kayfabe and saying "I respect you booker man" in their match. Pillman told Bischoff that no one would buy the angle unless he really got fired, and Bischoff who loved working the boys gave him an actual release.
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MassRayPer posted:He was booked in a storyline where he was feuding with Sullivan and they did a worked shoot where he was "fired" for breaking kayfabe and saying "I respect you booker man" in their match. Pillman told Bischoff that no one would buy the angle unless he really got fired, and Bischoff who loved working the boys gave him an actual release. And then he went to ECW to try and create a bidding war between the two companies. And Paul booked him as "the hottest free agent in wrestling" right? Then he crashed and busted up his feet bad.
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Dave Meltzer wrote this excellent piece about Brian Pillman several years ago, which I guess disappeared when F4W/WO merged a few years back that fortunately somebody archived. http://www.hack-man.com/Wrestling/NewsArticles/200610xx-Meltzer-Pillman.html
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Cameal posted:Dave Meltzer wrote this excellent piece about Brian Pillman several years ago, which I guess disappeared when F4W/WO merged a few years back that fortunately somebody archived. This is pretty much whywrestlingishorrible.txt and very amazing.
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Cameal posted:Dave Meltzer wrote this excellent piece about Brian Pillman several years ago, which I guess disappeared when F4W/WO merged a few years back that fortunately somebody archived.  OneThousandMonkeys posted:This is pretty much whywrestlingishorrible.txt and very amazing. Wow. Just. Wow. triple edit: I never ever got the whole wrestling a pencil thing, but now I do. Thanks Dave! algebra testes fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:This is pretty much whywrestlingishorrible.txt and very amazing. I'd argue it's about 70 percent whywrestlingishorrible.txt and 30 percent Brian Pillman's personality flaws, but yeah, it does show that even if you're King Worker, everyone gets worked by the business in the end. Everyone. And as said, the most tragic part is the families left in its wake. I once theorized that the perfect pro wrestler would have to be 1) A good worker and talker, 2) Possess a great capacity for enduring pain, and 3) Be a loner who was content to be a bizarre cross between a homeless drifter and a superstar athlete, and the sad story about his kids shows that 3 might be the most important one of all. Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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What a depressing and fascinating read. A real pity that the thing that saved his career would ultimately be the thing that killed him.  Strange that all the segments from Brian Pillman that people remember as amazing never drew ratings. Like wrestling fans have an aversion to things that are objectively entertaining. Probably why they're wrestling fans in the first place.
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Gonzo McFee posted:What a depressing and fascinating read. A real pity that the thing that saved his career would ultimately be the thing that killed him. It isn't so surprising when "critically acclaimed" television shows tend to get cancelled due to low ratings.
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That Pillman story is extremely fascinating and depressing. I did get a chuckle out of Joey Styles being disgusted at the "Loose Cannon" angle after Pillman took a poo poo on a living room floor.
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:That Pillman story is extremely fascinating and depressing. I did get a chuckle out of Joey Styles being disgusted at the "Loose Cannon" angle after Pillman took a poo poo on a living room floor. When you remember back to the Pillman DVD where Brian pulled Ross from the booth just to show him how big of a poo poo he took it really makes you wonder about Flyin' Brian.
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