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temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Drake-5 AM in Toronto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-jEh6CnaBY


Wario Kart 64 posted:

Tyga featuring Jadakiss and Tupac

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/tyga-hit-em-up-song.1303822.html

So are we going to get a bunch of new songs "featuring" Tupac?
Anybody like Tyga? I feel like you have to ask questions like that before stating opinions because some person somewhere will start crying.

temple fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Apr 1, 2013

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John Brown
Jul 10, 2009

Fun Times! posted:

It's popular in genres of all things to get your introduction from the classics. I know when I started listening to rap one of the first albums I got was 36 Chambers and Ridin' Dirty.

The first rap I liked was Mobb Deep's "Hell on Earth", and various Cash Money songs. That was in '98

The Rising Suun
May 10, 2006

watch out I'm ornery
New Texas poo poo from my homies Western Tink and Beautiful Lou (who has done tracks for ASAP and Main Attrakionz). The beats are witch house John Carpenter, but it works. http://mishkanyc.bandcamp.com/album/mobbin-no-sobbin

Also if anyone in NYC wants to hear some new Texas poo poo we have a party next week at Santos. Doughbeezy, Killa Kyleon, GRIT Boys, Kydd, Bun B's son Young B and more. Same lineup doing Mad Decent Monday and hopefully we will be doing a monthly and maybe do PVRPLE in Boston too.
http://www.santospartyhouse.com/event/index/id/3342
Free with RSVP

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

John Brown posted:

Wu-tang? Why do so many suburban teenagers go back to the 90s when starting off with rap? I know a group of kids who know nothing about rap but think NWA, old 3-6, and of course OF, are the poo poo. Then they harp of guys like Gucci and what not for being bad people. What is this about?

What the gently caress does this even mean

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


The Rising Suun posted:

New Texas poo poo from my homies Western Tink and Beautiful Lou (who has done tracks for ASAP and Main Attrakionz). The beats are witch house John Carpenter, but it works. http://mishkanyc.bandcamp.com/album/mobbin-no-sobbin

His mixtape from a year or two ago "hard to keel" is also really good

Ex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwPTW2QV04k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD9KmTsDGqQ (the beat...)

John Brown
Jul 10, 2009

Cool Buff Man posted:

What the gently caress does this even mean

Apparently you were the only one who didn't get it so you must be the problem. It means exactly what it says - a few artists who non-rap listeners like, but ridicule others with similar musical content. Stop being a dipshit and go away.

E: OF is the exception. Hence my last question: "What is this about?". It's a shame I had to spell that out for you.

John Brown fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 1, 2013

cardedagain
Aug 28, 2006

Fun Times! posted:

It's popular in genres of all things to get your introduction from the classics. I know when I started listening to rap one of the first albums I got was 36 Chambers and Ridin' Dirty.

My first foray into rap included the fat boys, run dmc, and that thing called MTV just starting to go nationwide*.
By the time 1993 came around, I had seen the "Chessboxin'" video and even had a friend who had 36 Chambers on CD,
but at the same time my heavy rotation consisted of Dre, Snoop, Geto Boys, Ice Cube, Das Efx, EPMD, Onyx and the like.
Oh, and Bone. I was more interested in that than hearing any Wu-Tang, which I finally got into when buying Enter The Wu-Tang from
a used CD bin in 1997. Hell, I didn't even get into The Notorious B.I.G until his second album dropped; there
was so much other stuff going on at the time, even in the mainstream. I remember getting a copy of Ridin' Dirty
second hand from a kid who said "someone left this CD in my car". I had seen the CD in record stores, but had
no clue what they sounded like. This was 1997. UGK weren't even getting national radio play, so I had no clue who they were.

Oh, but in 1993, my whole thought was "who the hell wants to hear 9 people rapping on a track?" because that was highly unheard of.
As far as big posse rap crews go, I see that Hiero came out in 1991. I knew who Del was back then, but I was unaware of the crew or songs until the mid-to late 90s.
Onyx and Bone were already pushing it with crew members. And I never really got into ATCQ other than seeing their videos on MTV or BET.

*mtv started out in 82 or so, but wasn't carried by all cable services, and even stereo sound was a "new thing" for television

cardedagain fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Apr 1, 2013

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

temple posted:

Drake-5 AM in Toronto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-jEh6CnaBY

Anybody like Tyga? I feel like you have to ask questions like that before stating opinions because some person somewhere will start crying.

Tyga is catchy. Rack city bitch. I don't see how you can like Future but not Tyga.

Plum Chaser
Jul 2, 2011

by Lowtax
Ice Cube - Crowded

:saddowns: Sounds like Cube is falling off, drat..

hobbez
Mar 1, 2012

Don't care. Just do not care. We win, you lose. You do though, you seem to care very much

I'm going to go ride my mountain bike, later nerds.
You should have to post a good or better song every time you post in this thread.

Maybe even two. All the best posters do it.

mobb deep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP0wsET8__Y

bun b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiQ32SBHIBc

fake e:

John Brown posted:

Wu-tang? Why do so many suburban teenagers go back to the 90s when starting off with rap? I know a group of kids who know nothing about rap but think NWA, old 3-6, and of course OF, are the poo poo. Then they harp of guys like Gucci and what not for being bad people. What is this about?

Many consider the 90s raps golden era. And Wu-Tang is an excellent place to start listening to rap.

hobbez fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Apr 1, 2013

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

ashgromnies posted:

Tyga is catchy. Rack city bitch. I don't see how you can like Future but not Tyga.

I don't like Future. And Future and Tyga doesn't have poo poo in common.

I AM BRAWW posted:

Ice Cube - Crowded

:saddowns: Sounds like Cube is falling off, drat..
Man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKJsSPATDLY

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic

I AM BRAWW posted:

Ice Cube - Crowded

:saddowns: Sounds like Cube is falling off, drat..

i will always love ice cube but dude

hobbez
Mar 1, 2012

Don't care. Just do not care. We win, you lose. You do though, you seem to care very much

I'm going to go ride my mountain bike, later nerds.
N:
Everyone's mad at rick ross because in this song he says he "slipped a girl a molly she didnt even know it and then he has sex with her but she didnt even knot it."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW4Vu32Pon8

V:

Dumb. Apparently there is a remix coming with kdot and kendrick though. Woo! Beat is fire.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


ashgromnies posted:

Byron Crawford is black and influential and he was calling out Ross for the rape references and hasn't mentioned the violence at all.

Anyway -- whoever was poo poo talking the Spaceghostpurrp show got the short end of the stick. I saw him last night -- crowd was small but hyped up, tons of weed smoke in the building, some cute girls dancing, opening acts were good, good night overall. Some of his crew were really good too. Only thing that sucked was a lot of the beats weren't mixed too well and were clipping or the bass would be nonexistent, maybe like 1/4 his beats were hosed up like that. He played forever and was super good with the crowd, they really seemed to enjoy the energy there. It was his birthday too.

Crawford was calling out Ross for saying he never talks about rape. He was actually going really hard at the people who were complaining about Ross. I mean have you actually seen his website? It's 70% twerk vids and white girls with big tits.

Also sucks about the sound at his show, although not sure if his poo poo is really optimized at all which could be part of the problem. What songs he actually do? Anything off Blackland 666?

hobbez posted:

You should have to post a good or better song every time you post in this thread.

Maybe even two. All the best posters do it.

mobb deep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP0wsET8__Y

bun b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiQ32SBHIBc

Not sure if we're ready for those deep cuts.

Cube also fell of years ago, this isn't really anything new.

Also Rack City was really nice, but it had about zero to do with Tyga. Most of the songs Future is on he definitely is a large part of why they're good. I didn't really get his stuff at first, and even now I don't think it's all amazing, but dude does have an interesting sound and manages to actually separate himself fromgeneric autotune singer/rappers.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL3ENrZwjmw

good watch

Insanely Sikh
Aug 26, 2009

Winner, SA's Sikh Of the Year, 2013

John Brown posted:

Wu-tang? Why do so many suburban teenagers go back to the 90s when starting off with rap? I know a group of kids who know nothing about rap but think NWA, old 3-6, and of course OF, are the poo poo. Then they harp of guys like Gucci and what not for being bad people. What is this about?

To be honest this is me a few years ago but about Lil Wayne, who I now realise is good but I'm still not a fan.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Future isn't the devil but I thought Jay Z killed autotune a while back. Miss me with those autotune "rappers".

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


oh my god
"jay z killed autotune rappers"
yeah that one line from ~jay z~ def topped a huge trend in modern pop and rap music.

so this post isn't just about how bad temple's posting is, here is western tink channeling Master P off his latest (incrediblydope)project https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2NtQqaaIC4

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

temple posted:

Future isn't the devil but I thought Jay Z killed autotune a while back. Miss me with those autotune "rappers".

Don't be a lame all your life man.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Chief Keef is cool too, I think he does some autotune rap or at least singing rapping stuff. But everyone else, jump off a building.

Edit: Kanye gets grandfathered in. He taught dudes how to make autotune hiphop. T-Paine started it but Kanye gave dudes lessons. Now, "rappers" are making the same lazy songs over and over and if another person shows me some new rap and its a dude moaning with a robot voice, I should be allowed to tell them to gently caress themselves.

temple fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Apr 1, 2013

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


RBX posted:

Don't be a lame all your life man.

Like I didn't realize this was an actual opinion people who listen to rap have in the year 2013

asap-salafi
May 5, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019
I really don't like autotune argh.

Wu-Tang clan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAwdXRbyWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G03xA3SMKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyM9dal80WY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djjq-J5NVT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6i_sNhbug0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0MlNZ_CqiM

EDIT: And possibly the greatest song ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCZrz8siv4Q

asap-salafi fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Apr 1, 2013

Plum Chaser
Jul 2, 2011

by Lowtax

alansmithee posted:

Cube also fell of years ago, this isn't really anything new.

Sure, he's had some bad stuff but Cube is pretty legendary (overlooking the disney stuff, but can't blame him it was probably easy money.) I wouldn't say he fell off, he's had a good amount of good albums. They probably aren't doing as well as they were before thought..

His Everythangs Corrupt, which is the other single from his upcoming album (the other single being Crowded which I posted earlier), is pretty dope in my opinion. Which is why I was looking forward to his album, but Crowded is bad..

Anyhow, here's some classic Cube.

Insanely Sikh
Aug 26, 2009

Winner, SA's Sikh Of the Year, 2013
Sorry to interrupt Wu hour but I'm going to leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLMk19Mdt0

*Edit*

Might as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDK6Ww81tM8 yeah.

Insanely Sikh fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Apr 2, 2013

asap-salafi
May 5, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Hallowed Turban posted:

Sorry to interrupt Wu hour but I'm going to leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLMk19Mdt0

You're forgiven for interrupting Wu hour, that beat is loving sick.

Insanely Sikh
Aug 26, 2009

Winner, SA's Sikh Of the Year, 2013
Free download for their EP, worth a check out in my opinion.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

alansmithee posted:

Crawford was calling out Ross for saying he never talks about rape. He was actually going really hard at the people who were complaining about Ross. I mean have you actually seen his website? It's 70% twerk vids and white girls with big tits.

Also sucks about the sound at his show, although not sure if his poo poo is really optimized at all which could be part of the problem. What songs he actually do? Anything off Blackland 666?


He played lots of stuff from prior to Blackland too. They did "Suck A Dick" for 2013 and had everyone going nuts. I Love Lesbians was another old one.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

You know whats even worse than Tyler creator being a childish meme raperapper? This poo poo:

quote:

"The agency is a way to stay true to Tyler and not do endorsements, but to allow companies to use his creative energy," Clancy says. "There's a demographic out there that corporate America has lost, but Tyler has managed to build a brand around it."

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.
One of the few April Fools pranks I laughed at today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LDSmI1kYoyk

HORNEY VAPE BRO
Jun 14, 2009


I was actually feelin that Celine Deon trap song.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
I'm late on Tyler chat but Wolf is actually pretty good aside from that song about his dad. Also Westside Connection was one of my favorite CDs in 7th grade/of all time so Ice Cube gets a pass for life.

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

Wu-Tang are possibly one of the most easily accessible and successful rap groups of the 90's whose work represents rap at its best, with great samples, rhymes and a lot of fun. It is how I got in, it is how many will get in. When you look for a gateway for something in the past, one place to look is on the internet, and a lot of the internet will dictate the best time in rap as being in the 90's, and that will inevitably point to Wu-Tang (it might also point to Tupac, or B.I.G., but finding the Wu is going to happen soon). That is why people say they are a gateway to rap fans.

Also, I prefer God Hour, not Wu Hour.

However, I would not say Wu-Tang as a gateway is anything like OF as a gateway. Most people I know who use Wu-Tang as a gateway usually go through their backcatalogue, then work their way through to other artists of their day who are remembered as good, then work forwards. Only time will tell, but I don't feel like fans of OF are going to be fans of rap in the future, they are going to touch it, but not take it on. OF don't really, this is my opinion only here, have the same quality or surroundings that OF have. Fans of Wu-Tang will point you to more stuff of the same quality when you look to expand, however, where will fans of OF point you? I can't really think of anyone else who produces something like they do, they are their own weird little thing in rap. However, I am probs wrong on this, possibly in part because I dislike OF.

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
You already are in the old school if you start with Wu. As for OF, you might dip in Kendrick and maybe some other underground artists, like Danny Brown or Lil B. Its easy to look at the current artists and find that OF are in a class of their own.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005


Holy poo poo that is gorgeous. I hated the cover to Watch the Throne, that's how you do it right.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah

Krit has the best album covers, I hope it's better than Live from the Underground.

Ovo
Dec 20, 2008

Life Rules

Hallowed Turban posted:

Sorry to interrupt Wu hour but I'm going to leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLMk19Mdt0


I know a guy who's doing a short doc about these guys, their EP is really good.

anyways here's a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sAjN3HmxE8

bef
Mar 2, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

John Brown posted:

Wu-tang? Why do so many suburban teenagers go back to the 90s when starting off with rap? I know a group of kids who know nothing about rap but think NWA, old 3-6, and of course OF, are the poo poo. Then they harp of guys like Gucci and what not for being bad people. What is this about?

When I went to school my friends and I listened to pretty much any kind of rap, starting from NWA to (then current) Carter III with a heavy mix of Houston rap so, idk, maybe you just hang out with lovely teenagers?

I got that JUSTIN BIEBER PLEASE BELIEVE IT

bef fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Apr 2, 2013

John Brown
Jul 10, 2009

bef posted:

When I went to school my friends and I listened to pretty much any kind of rap, starting from NWA to (then current) Carter III with a heavy mix of Houston rap so, idk, maybe you just hang out with lovely teenagers?

I got that JUSTIN BIEBER PLEASE BELIEVE IT

I don't hang out with any teenagers anymore because that'd be weird.

I would imagine when getting introduced to a genre you would find something current and work your way back, no? When I first actively listened to rock it started off with Linkin Park, who were the biggest band at the time. From there I've been working my way back through the greats while simultaneously staying current. I don't get why anyone 16-21 would go so far back and not find something more current first. NWA's style of rap is so much different than today's that it amazes me they are still a starting point for non-rap listeners.

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animal drums
Jul 8, 2010
Hey everyone, let me tell you about how to get into rap in the most logical way: I personally listened to Linkin Park at the very height of their popularity, and then began to delve into more and more classics while still listening to Linkin Park. Therefore it's patently ridiculous that a young person would listen to the wu tang clan, and I can't fathom why they would listen to such old weird crap
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