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Gatts posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PmUemZywgg I bet anyone  Meltzer has never heard of this series.
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So food puns, got it.
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NienNunb posted:I bet anyone Eh, he has young kids, the chances are higher than with a lot of stuff.
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May 6, 2013 23:57
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Thauros posted:Eh, he has young kids, the chances are higher than with a lot of stuff. But WrestleBubble™. Does that movie involve any wrestlers? Then he's not heard of it.
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May 7, 2013 00:01
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Meltzer is too busy melting cheeses and then gobbling down on them to concern himself with cartoon films.
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May 7, 2013 00:03
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LightsGameraAction posted:Currently watching Wrestlemania IV for the first time. This is bizarrely terrible. Like, the matches aren't bad except for being too short, but all the finishes are garbage. They accidentally ring the bell that Hercules pinned Ultimate Warrior even though he kicked out and the ref corrects it by awarding the match to Warrior? WTF? Nah, the Warrior/Hercules finish is one of the oldest in wrestling (examples off the top if my head: it's how Pedro Morales beat Ivan Koloff for the WWF Title, how Stan Stasiak then beat Pedro for the WWF Title, and how Lex Luger won the US Title from Barry Windham). One guy hits a pinning move (usually a Back Suplex) on his opponent, yet both men's shoulders on the mat. The ref begins the count, and just before three, one guy gets his shoulder up (it's usually the one who takes the move for dramatic effect), and is declared the winner, since his opponent's shoulders were down for the full three. Of course, it's never mentioned what would happen if the ref counts three and both men's shoulders are on the mat. Would it be a draw?
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Davros1 posted:Of course, it's never mentioned what would happen if the ref counts three and both men's shoulders are on the mat. Would it be a draw? Yep. I'm pretty sure it's happened before (HBK/British Bulldog perhaps?) and it's a draw with champ retaining or a restart if the ref or authority figure wants a definitive finish.
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May 7, 2013 00:27
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It happened last year with John Cena and CM Punk. CM Punk retained and they scheduled a rematch.
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VogeGandire posted:But WrestleBubble™. The first featured Mr. T, who was a contestant at the inaugural Wrestlemania. 
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May 7, 2013 02:10
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John Cena and Ryback in a Last Man Standing match is not something I want to see.
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May 7, 2013 02:19
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Yep. I'm pretty sure it's happened before (HBK/British Bulldog perhaps?) and it's a draw with champ retaining or a restart if the ref or authority figure wants a definitive finish. It was HBK/Bulldog. There it was two refs both counting three, the original ref coming awake outside the ring after a bump, and the replacement ref inside the ring. It was considered a draw, and a rematch was scheduled for the next PPV.
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Karmine posted:John Cena and Ryback in a Last Man Standing match is not something I want to see. At least it isn't an I Quit Match.
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Skinty McEdger posted:He felt that he could be as big a star as John Cena, but wasn't being given the opportunity to do so. Really? I seem to remember people complaining to him on Twitter about how he was booked to lose to Hornswoggle a billion times and he got all "stupid marks don't understand the business" about it. Hilarious if he then turned around and quit because he wasn't getting a main event push.
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Karmine posted:John Cena and Ryback in a Last Man Standing match is not something I want to see. It'll give Ryback a chance to lay down and catch his breath every few minutes, so at least it could have some cool spots and a strong finish if they feel like coming up with some.
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May 7, 2013 08:57
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Perry Normal posted:Really? I seem to remember people complaining to him on Twitter about how he was booked to lose to Hornswoggle a billion times and he got all "stupid marks don't understand the business" about it. Hilarious if he then turned around and quit because he wasn't getting a main event push. What I heard is he just didn't agree with WWE's creative direction and decided to go elsewhere. If it was because he wasn't getting a main event push then I just have to laugh at that one.
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At any given point, did jeff hardy merchandise outsell cena merch? (tee shirts, toys, dvds, anything at live events too) I'm curious because it seems absolutely true, and if true, I wonder how bad wwe took a loss from when he left.
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Dr Blah PhD posted:I wonder how bad wwe took a loss from when he left. I can't answer that particular aspect, but shortly after he left, Punk (who kayfabe ran him out of WWE  ) did a really neat anti-promotion of the Jeff Hardy DVD that was just coming out that probably helped sell a large number of copies. So Jeff certainly sold enough in merchandise that WWE was willing to have one of their top guys do an angle promoting it on their show even though Jeff had already left.That said, if I remember right Jeff left on pretty okay terms with WWE and didn't go to TNA for some months so it's probably not as big a mindfuck as WWE promoting Foley's book which was all about nothing BUT putting together an angle in TNA.
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It would be interesting if Jeff just never came back to WWE for whatever reasons, because if they talked about it at all, it'd make Punk look amazing for running him off.
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I remember Meltzer making a big deal about Jeff Hardy being the #1 Google search among sport stars or something at that time.
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Karmine posted:John Cena and Ryback in a Last Man Standing match is not something I want to see. why not? both have proven to be entertaining in gimmick matches and if cena can have good-to-great gimmick matches with the likes of khali and jbl then he and ryback shouldnt have an issue.
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Will it be contested under Ryback rules?
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If Ryback and Raven wrestled, which rules would win?
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cool-haired luke posted:why not? both have proven to be entertaining in gimmick matches and if cena can have good-to-great gimmick matches with the likes of khali and jbl then he and ryback shouldnt have an issue. JBL and Khali are not comparable. And when did Cena (or anyone) get a good to great match from Khali? I just hate that WWE doesn't seem to have any "feud-ending" gimmick matches left. When the first match between people is Last Man Standing or Hell in a Cell, what are you building to? It's so backwards to think, "you knocked me out so I couldn't get up for 10 seconds, BUT you never pinned me for 3 seconds - REMATCH!!!"
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oldpainless posted:If Ryback and Raven wrestled, which rules would win? I imagine it's like, oh "the irresistible force meeting the immovable object".
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cool-haired luke posted:why not? both have proven to be entertaining in gimmick matches and if cena can have good-to-great gimmick matches with the likes of khali and jbl then he and ryback shouldnt have an issue. For me, I'm not excited for it because I hate that gimmick. LMS matches usually suck because they stretch my suspension of disbelief even for touchy-man wrestling. They're fighting over what amounts to a countout, they're full of no-selling because someone has to do the 9-count tease after every finisher, and the only part that ever matters is the very end. Sometimes you see a creative finish like Del Rio toppling the announce table onto Big Show, but usually it's more like Big Move -> Both knocked out -> One guy answers the count right at 10 then falls down. Granted, this has the potential to use some psychology where Cena can't physically stand to answer a 10 count, but I'd be really surprised if they booked the whole match that way, much less Cena losing the title because of it.
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Quasipox posted:I imagine it's like, oh "the irresistible force meeting the immovable object". Which of those two things would be considered Ravens huge dick
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Gar posted:l Triple H pulled a miraculously decent match out of Khali at SummerSlam one year. I think it was during Triple H's last run as WWE Champ, so 08-09ish.
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Gatts posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PmUemZywgg Leek the vegetable is spelled "leek" dummy
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I'm just really loving thankful that Cena/Ryback isn't an I quit match. Never again please.
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Skinty McEdger posted:I'm just really loving thankful that Cena/Ryback isn't an I quit match. Never again please. Give it time, they probably have at least 5 more matches to get through.
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getitoffgetitoff posted:Who has the best wristlock in the biz?
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getitoffgetitoff posted:Who has the best wristlock in the biz?
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Cromulent posted:Chuck Taylor and his jumping wristlock (I don't even know if he's done this more than once, I just recall him doing it one time and it was hilarious. It's a regular wristlock that he applied while jumping up and down like a bratty child). Chuck Taylor is the best. Listen to him on the Art of Wrestling, dude rules.
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Where can I find full roster listings and drafts for Raw and SmackDown? I'd like to check out how the brand split looked like year by year.
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Davros1 posted:Nah, the Warrior/Hercules finish is one of the oldest in wrestling (examples off the top if my head: it's how Pedro Morales beat Ivan Koloff for the WWF Title, how Stan Stasiak then beat Pedro for the WWF Title, and how Lex Luger won the US Title from Barry Windham). One guy hits a pinning move (usually a Back Suplex) on his opponent, yet both men's shoulders on the mat. The ref begins the count, and just before three, one guy gets his shoulder up (it's usually the one who takes the move for dramatic effect), and is declared the winner, since his opponent's shoulders were down for the full three. I had no idea that was actually a thing. That's pretty interesting. sticklefifer posted:For me, I'm not excited for it because I hate that gimmick. LMS matches usually suck because they stretch my suspension of disbelief even for touchy-man wrestling. They're fighting over what amounts to a countout, they're full of no-selling because someone has to do the 9-count tease after every finisher, and the only part that ever matters is the very end. Sometimes you see a creative finish like Del Rio toppling the announce table onto Big Show, but usually it's more like Big Move -> Both knocked out -> One guy answers the count right at 10 then falls down. Cena's done a fair share of LMS matches and they've mostly been terrible but had entertaining finishes. He lost one to Edge when Big Show chokeslammed him into a spotlight and won the one against Batista where he duct taped Batista's feet to the turnbuckle. The one lovely finish was the LMS against Del Rio where Awesome Truth interfered. The problem with Cena in a LMS match is selling. He's either not selling going down for the ten count at all, or laying there totally dead til 9 and hopping up to his feet again at the last second acting like nothing happened.
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The Last Man Standing match Cena had with Umaga is probably the best match has had. It was really good.
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MrBling posted:The Last Man Standing match Cena had with Umaga is probably the best match has had. It was really good. The Edge match was also really good, and the Batista match was pretty good too.
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Rad R. posted:Where can I find full roster listings and drafts for Raw and SmackDown? I'd like to check out how the brand split looked like year by year. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wwe+draft+history+results
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