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Hogburto posted:I didn't say the correlation was perfect by any means. I was refuting Ms. Cupp's made-up bullshit, although my findings weren't merely contradictory, but opposite her claims. I'm not talking about you I'm talking about Cupp. Relax. 
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Your described something that could apply to both me and her, so I felt like differentiating myself from her ilk.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:Haass was just getting on with some other idiotic hegemony nonsense, even Maher was taken aback by his general "let's try to control the world until we get stuck some place, then pivot to other areas and control them!" Same with the democracy talk, just arrogant to the extreme. I think Moore would've been far better on the panel if Richard had been on it as well to spout that nonsense and have to deal with significant push back. Haass is a Morning Joe regular and an austerity cultist. It was pretty funny how he was trying to get those Pete Peterson talking points in there as Maher was trying to talk about Muslims.
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Pryor on Fire posted:It's essentially random noise with no real trend. Or, as we like to call it, "solid evidence". Them's politics.
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drat no posts at all this week? Bill hating on his audience was pretty loving funny. I don't know what happened there but he was really annoyed at the audience. The pot monologue at the end was pretty good too.
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Fragmented posted:drat no posts at all this week? Bill hating on his audience was pretty loving funny. I don't know what happened there but he was really annoyed at the audience. I thought a lot would've complained about James Poulos. He seemed to have drawn the ire of Maher for continually interjecting unconventional viewpoints into the topics in an abrupt style. Maher's done that pot speech on Obama a lot of times so it seems repetitive at this point.
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Zogo posted:I thought a lot would've complained about James Poulos. He seemed to have drawn the ire of Maher for continually interjecting unconventional viewpoints into the topics in an abrupt style. I think for once Bill handled that well, he kept asking wtf he was talking about. That guy was really all over the place though. Talk about a man without a country.
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My guess is the guy is part of a coming trend for folks from VICE in various respects to start hitting up the panel with more frequency since there's collab going on in general now with the HBO show---it was a weird panel this week but largely divorced from the worst sorts of idiocy which suits me decently given they were just back from an off week.
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So I'm guessing they get into the phone/internet spying poo poo tonight? How is the discussion?
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ApexAftermath posted:So I'm guessing they get into the phone/internet spying poo poo tonight? How is the discussion? About as substantive as you can imagine with a panel comprised of an internet libertarian dressed up like a minor villain from a comic book movie, a Republican Latino CNN anchor, and Dana Gould. Also Bill doesn't care because he's scared Al Qaeda might get a nuke and blow up a city with it.
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I got a bad feeling when the CNN Lady started to get on her soapbox on things, especially cringing on OT with her Reagan worship, but it was only until somebody thought to mention she was once one of McCain's handlers who should know better about Latino prospects and the modern GOP that it all came back to me...ugh. This was the wrong panel to have for all the poo poo that hit the fan this week, and the 50/50 sentiment trotted out was exceedingly weak considering, at the very least, there exist other proportional relationships that put a proper weighting on things. On the flip side VICE is finally airing the North Korea special next week for the season finale, and from this week's Morning After, I can't fathom why they didn't put their onsite Nigerian arrests by Shell and Friends on the postscript at the end of the episode so the bulk of the audience could have that staring them in the face. Same thing to a lesser extent with the existence of an off-camera PR handler for the Police spin in the Chiraq piece.
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I liked the interview segment last night the most.comes along bort posted:About as substantive as you can imagine with...an internet libertarian dressed up like a minor villain from a comic book movie...  One of the highlights of last night was Ana Navarro's blinking Miami Heat lapel pin.I was surprised to learn from Kevin D. Williamson that Reagan actually did endorse some form of abortion.
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Zogo posted:I was surprised to learn from Kevin D. Williamson that Reagan actually did endorse some form of abortion. Reagan (and much of the right) were all for elective abortions for mixed race babies before the religious right became a group worth pandering to. It's almost funny that abortion rights were less restrictive in most of the South pre-Roe.
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comes along bort posted:About as substantive as you can imagine with a panel comprised of an internet libertarian dressed up like a minor villain from a comic book movie That guy totally looked like a nazi with his black leather(?) suit and red pocket square or swatch or whatever the gently caress you call those stupid things. I also hate how Bill is for personal freedoms only to the point that it affects him. "I mean sure we shouldn't do these things to normal people but if it maybe might have stopped some ghost terror attack that never happened then gently caress it."
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Fragmented posted:That guy totally looked like a nazi with his black leather(?) suit and red pocket square or swatch or whatever the gently caress you call those stupid things. Dude's an odd duck that's for sure. He pretty much renders the concept of parodying libertarianism irrelevant. e: or in other words 
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I was getting more of a roided out Church of Satan vibe from that guy, tbh. ...and call me old and (no I don't live in Brooklyn and have a giant beard) but when I first heard of "VICE" the tv show (I guess it was spawned by a mag) I was thinking police "vice" type poo poo not horrible poo poo happening across the world. It's a great show but I think they miss out on some viewers that may just pass through it thinking it's a cop show or something.
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Keyser S0ze posted:It's a great show but I think they miss out on some viewers that may just pass through it thinking it's a cop show or something. Well to be honest if we're talking about people that won't even investigate what a show is about unless the name of the show really grabs them then I'm not sure Vice is for them. Speaking of Vice if you get a chance to go to their website check out their "Guide to North Korea" and "Guide to Liberia" videos as those are arguably what put them on the map.
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Villain, possibly. Not supervillain, though. A bit more like this, maybe:
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Fragmented posted:That guy totally looked like a nazi with his black leather(?) suit and red pocket square or swatch or whatever the gently caress you call those stupid things. Definitely need to have him back on with Nick Gillespie (wearing his ever-present leather jacket) and surprise guest Rob Halford singing "Hell Bent for Leather." comes along bort posted:Reagan (and much of the right) were all for elective abortions for mixed race babies before the religious right became a group worth pandering to. It's almost funny that abortion rights were less restrictive in most of the South pre-Roe. Looks like Nixon was for it too.
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Ugh that was cringe worthy the "or you take Viagra..." I hate the CNN lady she's just terrible all around.
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Keyser S0ze posted:It's a great show but I think they miss out on some viewers that may just pass through it thinking it's a cop show or something. They didn't just make up the name for the HBO show, it's the name of their website/internet show/magazine(?). The name has a little story behind it also- it's derived from a previous magazine they used to work for I think.
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The Chiraq segment was really dumb. Yeah it was Cabrini Green getting torn down that really fueled all this violence. Because that entire area was such a bastion of peace and safety before that right? "Back in my day we didn't shoot you we just rolled up on you and beat your rear end we didnt use guns" Lol please.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:On the flip side VICE is finally airing the North Korea special next week for the season finale The one that's been on their website forever? Or did they somehow get let back in after that. ApexAftermath posted:Speaking of Vice if you get a chance to go to their website check out their "Guide to North Korea" and "Guide to Liberia" videos as those are arguably what put them on the map. Their True Norwegian Black Metal feature was pretty great too.
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Since there's no Vice thread I'll say it here. The DPRK basketball special was great. I wish it had been an hour. I'm sure there was no shortage of footage.
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Yeah, I really liked that episode of Vice. It was really funny watching the guy self-consciously go on a tour through the most massive Potemkin Village ever created. The best parts were when they pointed out that the lights in all the skyscrapers might just be on for their benefit and that no one in the pretend North Korean computer lab was clicking on a mouse or typing anything. It got a little preachy at the end though. "If only North Korea would stop being so hostile to the American empire and __________ then everything would be alright."
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Blastedhellscape posted:Yeah, I really liked that episode of Vice. It was really funny watching the guy self-consciously go on a tour through the most massive Potemkin Village ever created. The best parts were when they pointed out that the lights in all the skyscrapers might just be on for their benefit and that no one in the pretend North Korean computer lab was clicking on a mouse or typing anything. I would say more the possible but probable. For example, propaganda village: quote:The village features a number of brightly painted, poured-concrete multi-story buildings and apartments, many apparently wired for electricity. The town was oriented so that the bright blue roofs and white sides of the buildings next to the massive DPRK flag would be the most distinguishing features when viewed from across the border. Scrutiny with modern telescopic lenses, however, has led to the conclusion that the buildings are concrete shells lacking window glass or even interior rooms, with building lights turned on and off at set times and empty sidewalks swept by caretakers in an effort to preserve the illusion of activity. I enjoy Vice but you're right. They're often preachy, self-righteous, and shallow in their reporting. But they also go a lot of places I would never go so more power to 'em. Oh, I thought by and large this episode sucked. Bill couldn't keep a handle of Niall and I couldn't stand the way he interviewed Patrick Kennedy. I'm all for tough interviews but Bill is still not a pro and when it's a pet issue he doesn't really give a poo poo what the other person says. I'm squarely in Bill's corner but it seemed like he just talked over Kennedy and never let him get a point out. Although, in Bill's defense, when Kennedy was asked to explain he dodged by saying there wasn't enough time. Gasland guy was fine but for a documentarian, he was pretty lacking in any factual pushback. I am fully inline with him as well but how about some numbers? How about the thousands of dollars the gas industry puts into campaign coffers and the millions they spend on astro-turfing. Go drive through coal country and you'll see all kinds of political yard signs that just say COAL. Go drive through Pennsylvania and the rest of shale country and you'll find much the same thing. But instead he was just like "Politicians are bought and I'm a citizen." tyler is a joke fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Jun 15, 2013 |
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The new rules were funny tonight. It might be my favorite one since Karab Amabo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaCygdeMDMA
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The North Korean supermarket was pretty eerie but yeah that computer lab was pretty funny.
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Jesus christ that blonde is dumb. BUT NORTH DAKOTA HAS LOW UNEMPLOYMENT!!!!!!!!!!!
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TLG James posted:Jesus christ that blonde is dumb. BUT NORTH DAKOTA HAS LOW UNEMPLOYMENT!!!!!!!!!!! For now.
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Yep, what a terrible panel. I was also somewhat surprised to see Maher immediately jumping into the trope-laden Snowden pile on, since IIRC he was at least somewhat inquisitive moreso back when Manning and Assange first went down. Then again, I suppose the next things in line from the Guardian haven't came out yet since the start of it all, so all there is to do is either reckon the nature of the leaks in a serious manner or attack Snowden every which way and nobody else---generally a bad sign when something can unite the disparate hacks on the panel like tonight. At least Bill's dismay at the Syria situation was consistent with the mess that is likely to become. I felt bad for the Gasland dude---he'd have done far better to win the coin toss or whatever to be the first interview of the show which is usually the better venue for anybody with a forthcoming documentary to get into it without putting out the meat of the thing ahead of time without the context of the rest of the film next to being on the panel proper. Kennedy I think was a case of him becoming a lost cause to the reason as soon as he brought up his fervent "facts" which seemed absolute---and Real Time pretty much always turns into either constantly interrupting that or letting it run wild and ruin a show, unfortunately. Niall was one of the worst guests though---pompous to a Gillespie degree and practically an establishment character.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:Yep, what a terrible panel. I was also somewhat surprised to see Maher immediately jumping into the trope-laden Snowden pile on, since IIRC he was at least somewhat inquisitive moreso back when Manning and Assange first went down. Then again, I suppose the next things in line from the Guardian haven't came out yet since the start of it all, so all there is to do is either reckon the nature of the leaks in a serious manner or attack Snowden every which way and nobody else---generally a bad sign when something can unite the disparate hacks on the panel like tonight. At least Bill's dismay at the Syria situation was consistent with the mess that is likely to become. A lot of that I presume has to do with Bill being okay with PRISM and the government spying on us in general as part of his overall Islamophobia. It's a shame he's going in for the establishment's standard demonize the leaker tactic so quickly, but he is kind of an idiot.
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tyler is a joke posted:Gasland guy was fine but for a documentarian, he was pretty lacking in any factual pushback. I am fully inline with him as well but how about some numbers? How about the thousands of dollars the gas industry puts into campaign coffers and the millions they spend on astro-turfing. Go drive through coal country and you'll see all kinds of political yard signs that just say COAL. Go drive through Pennsylvania and the rest of shale country and you'll find much the same thing. But instead he was just like "Politicians are bought and I'm a citizen." Were we watching different shows? He stated a ton of factual information, far more than the British guy who just referenced some unnamed MIT study.
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