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Slavvy posted:I wish more people who come into my work did this, instead of 'Last winter there was this minute rustling noise detectable only in a sound-damping chamber on a full moon by a south African fruit bat. FIX MY BROKEN CAR IMMEDIATELY I HAVE WARRANTYYYYYY' Had a guy once who absolutely insisted his tires were out of balance. 4 times in a row. After multiple test drives, including one I did with him in the passenger's seat on the freeway. I couldn't feel a drat thing, but he insisted that the steering wheel was shaking and of course it was our fault.  Wound up putting a set of Eagle GTs on (this was a Prius btw) free of charge, for "Customer Satisfaction." Hope he enjoys the softer rubber compound, can't be great for fuel economy though. 
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Fucknag posted:Had a guy once who absolutely insisted his tires were out of balance. 4 times in a row. After multiple test drives, including one I did with him in the passenger's seat on the freeway. I couldn't feel a drat thing, but he insisted that the steering wheel was shaking and of course it was our fault. That sounds about right. You work for a Toyota dealer I take it? I like the ones that insist the car makes a funny noise it shouldn't and you have to convince them that the car just sounds that way because of the design. A couple of times I've had to line up a handful of identical showroom models and demonstrate, one by one, that it's just how the cars are.
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No dealer, I'm at a retail auto service center, rhymes with "Beers" which you need quite a lot of to stay sane working here. Dealer techs get treated even worse than we do, but at least they make enough to live independently for their troubles. Ask me about making $800 a month, maximum hypothetical paycheck I could get is ~650 for 2 weeks, IF by some miracle we got enough shift hours to get everyone full time (lol). But hey I make more standing around when there's no business than the upper techs and managers so I should quit bitching. 
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Fucknag posted:No dealer, I'm at a retail auto service center, rhymes with "Beers" which you need quite a lot of to stay sane working here. I'm the dealership foreman of two mechanics, including myself. poo poo's EZ brah.
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Fucknag posted:No dealer, I'm at a retail auto service center, rhymes with "Beers" which you need quite a lot of to stay sane working here. I'm at a small family-owned shop. I'm doing just about as well, if you want to call it that. 
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Aug 2, 2013 05:02
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Let's hear it for 2.6 flat rate hour days :iamafag:
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Slavvy posted:Jesus christ. Is that brake immersed in some sort of fluid, like a motorbike clutch, or is it just a stack of dry plates? Where does the caliper pressure come from? How is 'mileage' measured on aircraft tyres? As in, is that tyre failure something that could've been prevented by inspecting/testing thge tyre or is it just one of those things? In keeping with the theme of the thread: They made sure to test the tires out first Slavvy posted:I don't know anything about aircraft brakes/landing gear so this is really fascinating. Oh and aircraft brakes are immensely overpowered. Aborting a takeoff in an airliner is similar to trying to stop an apartment building going 150MPH. A maximum effort aborted takeoff will put so much energy into the brakes that it will melt the giant stack of disks into one molten mass of expensive aircraft parts. The wheels are designed with plugs in them that are supposed to melt and relieve pressure before the tires literally explode on the rims. Here's a video of an A340 rejected takeoff certification attempt. The first 5 minutes are kind of slow, but it provides a nice build up to the epic cluster gently caress of an ending. As you're watching keep in mind that this thing is carrying 50,000 gallons of jet fuel.
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Here's a video of the 747-8 RTO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc_v6tXsv6g
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I've seen that before and the communication during that test was very bad. The relief plugs on the tires failed, and then as the pressure kept climbing due to the fire, the wheels failed before the tires did.  They're lucky nobody got hurt or killed, the communication with the firecrew in particular was awful, it doesn't seem like there was even any brief or plan. Here's an overweight landing test in the A380. Just on the test rig, not a real A/C, but it's still impressive. This is about 6800 horsepower. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dv_y_3EK0 Jonny Nox posted:
Well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191#Engine_separation Phanatic fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Aug 2, 2013 |
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I love the fact that Airliner manufacturers are just assuming someone is going to fly a plane with 100% worn brakes, broken wheel fuses, and overloaded (sometimes all of the above) and making sure no one gets killed. I wonder if they design engine mounts to sheer gracefully if someone has installed them with a forklift.
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Fucknag posted:No dealer, I'm at a retail auto service center, rhymes with "Beers" which you need quite a lot of to stay sane working here. Why do you even get out of bed for that? I know it's a pretty general question, but what do journeyman auto techs make in the US? I'm in Canada.
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SiB posted:Why do you even get out of bed for that? My top guy gets $35 per hour flagged and I could conquer the world with 10 more of him.
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Jonny Nox posted:I love the fact that Airliner manufacturers are just assuming someone is going to fly a plane with 100% worn brakes, broken wheel fuses, and overloaded (sometimes all of the above) and making sure no one gets killed. Its just common for this industry to design for the absolute worst case scenario. Love this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai2HmvAXcU0
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SiB posted:I know it's a pretty general question, but what do journeyman auto techs make in the US? I'm in Canada. My husband currently makes $12/h hourly and $13/h flat-rate on top of the hourly wage. He was making $13/$14 but he took a small paycut when he moved to a new shop, but he has full weekends off for the first time since we've been together. Every job he has had has just barely covered him on health insurance (or not at all) with a $1000 jump a month to cover dependents. He has made "more" than that, but it was usually just flat rate, so the slow days made up for it. He's working in the Bay Area, California. He's technically the lead tech of a small shop that is attached to a tow company and auto body business.
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BraveUlysses posted:Its just common for this industry to design for the absolute worst case scenario. Is that a rubber ducky on the wing?
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Sure, it's staged.. but I KNOW THESE PEOPLE * * I'm related to them.  Image Macro abuse (C) STR
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I made $8.25 an hour as the lowest tech at a small shop (three guys including myself). I literally got paid more to clean toilets at a ski resort than I did turning wrenches on Range Rovers and Jaguars. I love fixing cars though, to me it was an awesome opportunity as my first real mechanic job. My current job pays much better and is much easier, but the job satisfaction is lower and I really miss being elbow deep in engines all day.
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 Needs more fiber apparently.  what the coolant came out of:  Guess water since 1990 has a small effect on radiators.
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God drat. Journeyman here make $35-40 flat rate with bonuses up to $45/hr. Free healthcare and benefits. Government will even pay you to be an immigrant! We can't find enough techs here..... Any of you want to move to Canada?! 200 flat rate hours per month is not unusual that's for sure.
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At my retail chain, my entry level position is straight hourly at $9.25 an hour. After that it goes to split rate, half hourly and half "commission" (which is actually flat rate but I think a lot lower than real shops.) Hourly rate is something like $6 for tech 2s, $9 for tech 3s and maybe $10-11 for tech 4s (we don't have one at my shop.) For the upper techs a $1200 paycheck is making bank, and again that's biweekly, so good but not fantastic. I've been averaging $250-300 for most of the year due to corporate slashing our hour pool, only been picking back up in summer. I could easily pull $500 back when tech 1s were split rate too, my highest was the last before pure hourly pay kicked in at over $700. That's back when I was training to be promoted to tech 2, which they then rescinded when my productivity dropped after my paychecks dropped from 700 to under 400 for the same amount of hours worked (GEE I WONDER WHY), and then used my outrage at having it taken away as the new justification for why I didn't get it.
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I decided to pull the head off the 1.6 diesel. I was gonna replace the headgasket with a MLS one from a tdi.  Gonna cancel the order on the adapter plate.
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Phanatic posted:I've seen that before and the communication during that test was very bad. The relief plugs on the tires failed, and then as the pressure kept climbing due to the fire, the wheels failed before the tires did. "Guys, could we have some stairs please? We want to get out of here. Guys? Guys... Oh, putain!"
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Munin posted:"Guys, could we have some stairs please? We want to get out of here. Guys? Guys... Oh, putain!" I would have used that as the excuse to ride the fun-slide, but I know some aviation testing guru is gonna go all captain killjoy on me
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West SAAB Story posted:Sure, it's staged.. but I KNOW THESE PEOPLE * I know them too. Stop pouring with the bottle upside down, dammit!
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Fucknag posted:At my retail chain, my entry level position is straight hourly at $9.25 an hour. After that it goes to split rate, half hourly and half "commission" (which is actually flat rate but I think a lot lower than real shops.) Hourly rate is something like $6 for tech 2s, $9 for tech 3s and maybe $10-11 for tech 4s (we don't have one at my shop.) For the upper techs a $1200 paycheck is making bank, and again that's biweekly, so good but not fantastic. This poo poo is exactly why mechanics need/have to put up with unions. If this poo poo had happened at any of the places I've worked the shop would have been burnt to the ground by someone.
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Jonny Nox posted:I love the fact that Airliner manufacturers are just assuming someone is going to fly a plane with 100% worn brakes, broken wheel fuses, and overloaded (sometimes all of the above) and making sure no one gets killed. Aircraft design has a lot of idiot-proofing, that's for sure.
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SiB posted:God drat. Journeyman here make $35-40 flat rate with bonuses up to $45/hr. Free healthcare and benefits. Government will even pay you to be an immigrant! We can't find enough techs here..... Any of you want to move to Canada?! 200 flat rate hours per month is not unusual that's for sure. Yeah, I'd honestly love to. Maybe someday. Joe Mama posted:This poo poo is exactly why mechanics need/have to put up with unions. If this poo poo had happened at any of the places I've worked the shop would have been burnt to the ground by someone. Okay, who's going to tell him about "Right To Work" states? 
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The solution to "right to work" is more unionization, and more radical union tactics. However, things aren't bad enough for the average joe that they would consider kneecapping scabs a worthwhile endeavor.
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Hmm. This seems to be a bad place to be stuck. Broadway curve eastbound on I10, during rush hour. Why am I stuck here?  Oh, it's the gooniest roadside assistance ever! Why did I call them?  Motherfucker.  Blew up while doing about 60 in the HOV lane, but in a remarkably controlled manner. Called for help because there's no loving way I'm changing a passenger side tire, on the inside median of I10, with my back to fast-moving rush hour traffic a foot away. I actually figured they'd call for a tow, not a guy in a Miata with a floor jack, a high visibility safety vest, and a cordless impact... but then it was him with his back to traffic, not me, and he was a lot quicker than I would've been with a hand wrench and a screw jack.Him: "Oh, by the way, that spare doesn't look too good..." Me: "Yeah, I'm just going to get off the freeway right now and take surface streets the rest of the way." 30 minutes of puttering down side roads later...  Lesson learned: Don't trust tires that have to be at least four years old, or the original spare which has to be pushing 15. I get to see if I can fit five tires and wheels in the back of the CR-V tomorrow!
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You gotta admit, having a guy turn up in a Miata for roadside assistance is a pretty good story. What'd he have in the car besides the jack and impact?
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Harbor Freight aluminum floorjack, cordless impact that I'd guess was a Craftsman given the color, a couple of small jugs of gas, and a thick foam mat to work on. Probably some jumper cables or a box back there too, and then that's probably it. Not much else going into the back of a NA! The photos don't do the traffic justice, either. When it actually happened all of the non-HOV lanes were bumper-to-bumper at 40 and while the road was opening up, it just meant that the cars were doing 85 instead of 40.
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SiB posted:God drat. Journeyman here make $35-40 flat rate with bonuses up to $45/hr. Free healthcare and benefits. Government will even pay you to be an immigrant! We can't find enough techs here..... Any of you want to move to Canada?! 200 flat rate hours per month is not unusual that's for sure. Where the hell are you in Canada? I'm in BC, and the techs at our shop (Motorcycle, ATV, UTV) are at $35 an hour, no benefits or even coffee breaks! I'm a 3rd/4th year apprentice by hours, not schooling and I get $20 hourly.
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I love the smell of melting pistons in the morning. The picture really doesn't do justice to the color and volume of smoke coming out of this poor thing. Invisible dirigible! (-87,750kgs) It's like something so heavy went over it, it spun all the way around back into legal load territory. 
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BraveUlysses posted:Here's a video of the 747-8 RTO I do research with the material these brakes are made of!
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IOwnCalculus posted:
Where the hell do I sign up to do roadside assistance in my Miata?! 
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When I saw that picture my first thought was 'Why did the guy in the roadside assistance truck put a sticker on your windshield?'
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DefaultPeanut posted:Where the hell are you in Canada? I'm in BC, and the techs at our shop (Motorcycle, ATV, UTV) are at $35 an hour, no benefits or even coffee breaks! I'm a 3rd/4th year apprentice by hours, not schooling and I get $20 hourly. Alberta!
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Raluek posted:Is this as bad as it looks? Crosspost from the stupid thread. It's a spun bearing. Guess what? All of them are spun. Except #3, for some reason. 1,2,4,5,6,7, and 8 are all spun.  Don't trust people on Craigslist, folks!
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