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At the moment, I'm going straight for A: 4 votes: Iron Shod Staff. Tough, immensely variable, and we've already got a bit of a start on it. That being said, I am tempted towards short spear, javelin or sling in a way, as we're pretty good with spear fishing/throwing, and we could probably wrangle quite the talent, when combined with our eyesight.
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SerSpook posted:So, I want to tell the merchant that Ishamal said I have good eyes, better than most. When the minotaurs attacked the city two years before I could make out details of the banners from the King's home. Agamemnon takes a few small stones and tosses them against a wall at the end of the courtyard. He tells you to count them, which you do so, successfully. Eight tiny pebbles. "Hmmm" he says "maybe. We can always use more folks who can really aim a sling or a javelin in the city, but they are useless in a standup, close fight. You aren't crazy enough to go off monster hunting, right? A few folks are crazy enough to use a javelin like a short spear if they have to, but its a great way to get gutted, its even shorter. No one outside of the Old Tales uses a sling to fight up close."
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Sep 21, 2013 21:10
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 Medium spear is a reasonable choice for how I expect us to fight in the future.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:11
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HiHo ChiRho posted:
Yup, this.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:23
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5. 4 x C I like this reasoning.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:23
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Staff won't be of help against monsters  eta: Besides, we're a pretty big guy and I think we're gonna be pretty buff with all the combat training (though not as buff as we could be). And wood breaks. I'd rather not risk that. eta2: Nevermind.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:24
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What are you talking about 
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Sep 21, 2013 21:24
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I am limited to an iPad at the moment and generally too stupid to modify the google docs spread sheet. If someone can modify it I am doing research much of the weekend and can take a shot at maintaining it. Thinking about weapons: "You say that you would recommend the long spear? Why is that? "If we learn the sling it sounds as if we would want a close up weapon as well. Is that impossible."
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Sep 21, 2013 21:26
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SerSpook posted:Staff won't be of help against monsters Agamemnon groans as you inquire about using the staff on monsters. "Why am I wasting my time on another would be hero? You go monster hunting and you'll be food for the crows and the jackals. The staff aint bad against man sized monsters, but useless against bigger ones and you can't throw it. Not bad against shorter weapons either and good for parrying weapons with."
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Sep 21, 2013 21:27
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Sogol posted:"You say that you would recommend the long spear? Why is that? Sogol posted:"If we learn the sling it sounds as if we would want a close up weapon as well. Is that impossible." It should be abundantly clear by now that Agamemnon has made his assessment of each weapon based on when he thinks you will actually really need to know how to use a weapon, in war with another city. You have seen how bands of roaming monsters get handled and he seems dismissive of the idea that you would possibly go adventuring, a profession he has made clear he believes to be suicidal. Diogines fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 21:30
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Which is why the medium spear is perfect since it will work pretty well in a combat formation and if we get into an individual fight.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:34
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"It's not just monster hunting or we would be at the Temple. We do feel the wanderlust of Zepath sometimes though. What would you say is the best weapon or combination for travelng if we find the Sandal takes us?" Edit: ok... Read the above. He is teaching us to be a sojer, which is not bad since he will maybe focus on surviving.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:37
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Diogines posted:Agamemnon groans as you inquire about using the staff on monsters. "Why am I wasting my time on another would be hero? You go monster hunting and you'll be food for the crows and the jackals. The staff aint bad against man sized monsters, but useless against bigger ones and you can't throw it. Not bad against shorter weapons either and good for parrying weapons with." I'm with this guy, in a way: namely, if we're fighting any monsters of really prodigeous size or strength, then it doesn't matter what weapon we have, we'll likely be approaching them in unique ways, using the environment and our brains, or, possibly, our somehow, someday, enhanced limb-ripping-off strength. So the staff is the best .Long spear's a no-go, we want something that's easily portable, and can defend us in a variety of situations, as we travel the land as a solitary explorer, not something that's for us in large-scale military combat. Plus you can use a staff like a walking stick. So the staff is the best
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Sogol posted:"It's not just monster hunting or we would be at the Temple. We do feel the wanderlust of Zepath sometimes though. What would you say is the best weapon or combination for travelng if we find the Sandal takes us?" "Than you probably want the medium spear. And other men with you. Even an average sized minotaur is going to demolish you alone, it'll take a spear and keep charging. It might bleed out. An hour later. After you are already a stain on it's hooves. A dozen men with shields and spears have much better odds of taking it down without losing anyone. Staff comes in plenty handy as well though, you can parry blades with it in a way you can't easily with a spear. The might crack a big bulls skull with it. You look like you might have the strength behind your arms for a club or an axe. Definitely not a sling, definitely not javelins." Diogines fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 21:40
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Hmm...is bow and arrow an option?
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Sep 21, 2013 21:40
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Theglavwen posted:So the staff is the best A medium spear is a staff with a pointy end. 
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Sep 21, 2013 21:41
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FoxTerrier posted:Hmm...is bow and arrow an option? "Not with me, but I have a friend who can show you if you like. You have the eyes for it."
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Sep 21, 2013 21:43
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Question 1: Is a bow a weapon we can learn? How is a bow different from a sling? Pros vs Cons? All I know is that apparently bows take a lot of strength and are hard to learn. Question 2: So we can see things that are really far away. Can we see things that are moving quickly? Can the this guy test that for us real quick? Make a gesture really fast, or show us something really fast and we will tell him what it was.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:47
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Diogines posted:"Not with me, but I have a friend who can show you if you like. You have the eyes for it." Oh! I vote bow!
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Sep 21, 2013 21:47
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Diogines posted:"Not with me, but I have a friend who can show you if you like. You have the eyes for it." Changed. my dad fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 21:48
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 Apparently, it is. Changing my vote to the bow. (4xM) Question for Diogines.  Is this guy's cap fashionable in Zepath, or does the picture only serve to illustrate the spear and is the soldier from a different time and place altogether? Zybourne Clock fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Sep 22, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 21:51
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Zybourne Clock posted:Is this guy's cap fashionable in Zepath, or does the picture only serve to illustrate the spear and is the soldier from a different time and place altogether? It's a Macedonian phalangite holding a sarissa, if I'm not mistaken.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:52
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Sorry for doubleposting, but a question for Dio: Can we grab each weapon and try to see if holding one of them feels right?
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Sep 21, 2013 21:55
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Zybourne Clock posted:1. Fx4. How this even a question. The man is not dressed anything remotely like what the men of Zepath wear, but damned if that is not a good spear picture!
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Sep 21, 2013 21:55
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my dad posted:Sorry for doubleposting, but a question for Dio: You can. Do you do so?
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Sep 21, 2013 21:56
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Ok... I am just going to hose up the spread sheet if I try to change it using this. Can someone with an actual comp either add columns for Question #5 Weapons or make a separate one for that. As a bonus, you could insert a row below the totals with a formula to would take the Column Total/(voters*4) expressed as a percentage (if docs can do that). Personally I don't mind being eccentric and feel the maul or a heavy axe could be fun and get us all buff due to weight. Shod staff because we have a head start (also distinctive particularly if we combine it with sling). And short spear is of course probably the most practical and versatile. So in short... I dunno yet.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:56
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Diogines posted:You can. Do you do so? Sure, why not.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:57
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my dad posted:Sorry for doubleposting, but a question for Dio: Yes! I vote for this!
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Sep 21, 2013 21:57
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Question 1: Is a bow a weapon we can learn? How is a bow different from a sling? Pros vs Cons? All I know is that apparently bows take a lot of strength and are hard to learn. Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Question 2: So we can see things that are really far away. Can we see things that are moving quickly? Can the this guy test that for us real quick? Make a gesture really fast, or show us something really fast and we will tell him what it was. Edited in bows as an option.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:58
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Diogines posted:You can. Do you do so? Yes. Holding off on my weapon-preference vote for the moment.
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Sep 21, 2013 21:59
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I withdraw my vote for weapon training. Let's see where operation "Grab and see" takes us.
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5. D D K K Our eyesight is excellent, so we should pick up the sling quickly. It's a good distance weapon, and we can use anything we find as ammo and vary the lethality to scare, hurt, maim, or kill from a distance. A sword will give us the ability to fight close and powerful. Both weapons favor skill, quickness, and finesse over brute strength. ShotgunWillie fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 22:03
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Haven't decided on a vote yet, but there are 2 C options, sword and medium spear.
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Sep 21, 2013 22:03
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my dad posted:Sure, why not. You lift each weapon and feel it's weight for a moment. You take a few practice stabs and a few practice swings. The javelins feel oddly familiar. They are heavier and shorter... but they are also like like the fishing spears you once used. Agamemnon warned you that some use them in close combat as well, but that such a use is only for the desperate and a certain death. You were rather good at spear fishing, but it has been several years. The long spear feels awkward and odd in your hands. The sword makes a highly satisfying swoosihing sound when you move it through the air, even if you have no idea how to use it. As you lift the club and the maul, you imagine for a moment being able to swing one of these weapons and imagine the chest of minotaur on the receiving end crumpling in a single blow. You try to load a sling and fail to do so correctly. You try to wind up and take a shot at the wall with it. You repeatedly mess it up and fail to correctly keep the stone in the sling as you twirl it. When you get almost half way to throwing the stone successfully, you let go prematurely and Agamemnon needs to duck to avoid being hit. After another try, you manage to hit the outer wall of his home with a stone which makes a highly satisfying "thud". None of the other weapons "speak" to you in any manner.
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Sep 21, 2013 22:04
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WE ACCIDENTALLY HAD TWO Cs. PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK YOUR VOTE IF YOU ALREADY MADE IT TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS STILL CORRECT!
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Sep 21, 2013 22:05
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Weapon choice: 3 x C(Medium Spear), 1 x J(Javelin) If there is one thing D&D has taught me, it's that you should have some sort of basic proficiency in a ranged weapon. All other votes remaining the same.
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Sep 21, 2013 22:19
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4 x M (Bow) If it is less known, and we become a master, that is a legendary thing all of itself. He said we'd likely never go hungry while wandering as well. Not being hungry, and putting an arrow in something's eye from hundreds of yards away sounds pretty good to me.
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Sep 21, 2013 22:33
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2 for Javelin, 1 for C medium spear, and 1 for Bow. Diversify our range
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Sep 21, 2013 22:33
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Ask Aggers: Have men ever been known to use two swords? One in each hand?
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Diogines posted:"The distance is longer and it is more accurate. Sling stones are easy to find or to make, arrows, take effort. Bows are not simple and take a great deal of dedication to use right. But a good bowman will never starve. It is not a weapon for casual use." It's pretty useless just putting one or two points into bows since they are so hard to master .
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