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Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!

Somfin posted:

No no but don't you see she's so EMPOWERED now, she's like a sexy icon for femininity, for all females. That's why she's in purple spandex, and that's why she fucks anything that moves. It's female empowerment. It appeals to females. Duh. Sure, she's an alien, but that doesn't mean she's not a female.

Also, they might be called Teen Titans, but we all know that means eighteen, right? Or whatever the equivalent is in her alien years.

She's totally an empowered female.

please tell me no-one actually believes this

Tumblr "feminists" make arguments along these lines, but to be honest most Tumblrites are more interested in trying to justify why whatever thing they like is actually Very Progressive than actually critiquing the media they watch.

Shadowed Bacon posted:


Still not as bad as the Ebert one, but still bad. Remember when Apple ruined live concerts somehow? sereioulsy :wtc:, does Rall think the artist sells the song to Apple for $0.99, and Apple makes all the profit?

Haha, yeah it's all iTunes' fault record stores are out of business. Internet? Piracy? What's that?

What a loving luddite.

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BBJoey posted:

What is with the right-wing outrage over selfies, anyway? People take photos of themselves. SHOCK HORROR KIDS THESE DAYS OUR MORALS

My best guess is that these cartoonists are afraid that selfies represent the dawn of a new age of narcissism, and all these narcissistic millennials are destroying American culture.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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Zeroisanumber posted:

Allen West is a war criminal.

Just thought it bears repeating.

In case anyone didn't do the research, West fired a gun near an Iraqi prisoner's head, who then gave false details about ambush plans.

You have to keep in mind, Oliver North has a semi-regular segment on Fox News, so Republicans are a-okay with war criminals, as long as they committed war crimes against the "right" people.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013


Kelly's was superior, as always.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
How's a guy who can't hold a congressional seat for longer than two years gonna become president, anyway?

Lycus fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jan 10, 2014

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

Cruel and Unusual posted:

Kelly's was superior, as always.



Bors had the best one. I love that he manages to get a dig in at both Jobs and lazy obituary cartoons.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

cafel posted:

So someone linked this on Facebook, a collection of cartoons and posters created in the vain attempt to keep servicemen from frequenting prostitutes or loving in general.

It's not clear that they were in vain, unless you have some evidence to suggest these campaigns weren't effective. At least one of them is also promoting condom use.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Shadowed Bacon posted:


Still not as bad as the Ebert one, but still bad. Remember when Apple ruined live concerts somehow? sereioulsy :wtc:, does Rall think the artist sells the song to Apple for $0.99, and Apple makes all the profit?

Actually, I've just been reading about this in David Byrne's "How Music Works", where he goes over the breakdown of who gets what money from record sales in various formats. Without getting into weird stuff like the difference between performance royalties and mechanicals, the short version is that Apple gets 30% of a sale off the top, and the artists are generally left with the traditional 14% royalty rate, even though digital distribution means that they should be able to argue for more. But record companies are still fuckers. Apple's not totally guilty, but they're pretty complicit.

Though having typed all that, I'm realizing you may know all that already. Also I'm tired. Sorry.

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

This post is hurting the economy!

Discendo Vox posted:

It's not clear that they were in vain, unless you have some evidence to suggest these campaigns weren't effective. At least one of them is also promoting condom use.

I'm sorry I didn't spend time looking over case studies involving prostitution and venereal diseases among US servicemen before I made my joke about how sailors and soldiers are commonly seen as really horny. All the weed I'm smoking is giving me a chronic, whole-mind disease which keeps me from realizing that people might not take it as a really obvious joke.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

colonel_korn posted:

Bors had the best one. I love that he manages to get a dig in at both Jobs and lazy obituary cartoons.



Being incarnated as a human is a more advantageous position to escaping samsara than being in heaven, no matter what your circumstances. A mahayana Buddhism cartoon.

Thomas13206
Jun 18, 2013

colonel_korn posted:

Bors had the best one. I love that he manages to get a dig in at both Jobs and lazy obituary cartoons.



I still think this is the best thing Bors ever did!

Gimnbo
Feb 13, 2012

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BBJoey posted:

What is with the right-wing outrage over selfies, anyway? People take photos of themselves. SHOCK HORROR KIDS THESE DAYS OUR MORALS

A black guy they hate went to the funeral of a black guy they have to pretend to like and took a selfie with another person. That's literally it. It's just more grasping for reasons to hate Obama.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

pd187 posted:

I still think this is the best thing Bors ever did!

Wrong.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


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Gimnbo posted:

A black guy they hate went to the funeral of a black guy they have to pretend to like and took a selfie with another person. That's literally it. It's just more grasping for reasons to hate Obama.

It's also a combination of "some gizmo" and "kids these days" that have been with old people forever.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

Allen Wren posted:

Actually, I've just been reading about this in David Byrne's "How Music Works", where he goes over the breakdown of who gets what money from record sales in various formats. Without getting into weird stuff like the difference between performance royalties and mechanicals, the short version is that Apple gets 30% of a sale off the top, and the artists are generally left with the traditional 14% royalty rate, even though digital distribution means that they should be able to argue for more. But record companies are still fuckers. Apple's not totally guilty, but they're pretty complicit.

Though having typed all that, I'm realizing you may know all that already. Also I'm tired. Sorry.
I don't know about the other posters here, but I do. Digital royalties aren't as grand as people would expect. There's a reason why people still try to get into traditional medias.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

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Doctor Rope

Spiffster posted:

I was looking through old Youtube videos and stumbled upon this gem from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxw_diMcZ3k


Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Gimnbo posted:

A black guy they hate went to the funeral of a black guy they have to pretend to like and took a selfie with another person. That's literally it. It's just more grasping for reasons to hate Obama.
What's even stupider is that he didn't even take it. He sat there and let someone else take his picture. I guess he should chided her or smashed her camera or something. But all the conservative cartoonist are like "Oh my god! Obama took a selfie!"

Shadowed Bacon
Apr 28, 2009

Allen Wren posted:

Actually, I've just been reading about this in David Byrne's "How Music Works", where he goes over the breakdown of who gets what money from record sales in various formats. Without getting into weird stuff like the difference between performance royalties and mechanicals, the short version is that Apple gets 30% of a sale off the top, and the artists are generally left with the traditional 14% royalty rate, even though digital distribution means that they should be able to argue for more. But record companies are still fuckers. Apple's not totally guilty, but they're pretty complicit.

Though having typed all that, I'm realizing you may know all that already. Also I'm tired. Sorry.

I did not know that, and that's an interesting fact. Thank you.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Allen Wren posted:

Actually, I've just been reading about this in David Byrne's "How Music Works", where he goes over the breakdown of who gets what money from record sales in various formats. Without getting into weird stuff like the difference between performance royalties and mechanicals, the short version is that Apple gets 30% of a sale off the top, and the artists are generally left with the traditional 14% royalty rate, even though digital distribution means that they should be able to argue for more. But record companies are still fuckers. Apple's not totally guilty, but they're pretty complicit.

Though having typed all that, I'm realizing you may know all that already. Also I'm tired. Sorry.

Not only does Apple demand a 30% cut for distributing, they also mandate that people cannot sell anything distributed by them anywhere else for less.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



X-Ray Pecs posted:

In case anyone didn't do the research, West fired a gun near an Iraqi prisoner's head, who then gave false details about ambush plans.
The horror. How on earth can he live with himself after doing something so depraved.

E-Tank
Aug 4, 2011

Xander77 posted:

The horror. How on earth can he live with himself after doing something so depraved.

Lets see...First the man is now probably permanently deaf on that side. Second, psychological torture is still torture, I don't give a gently caress if he didn't in fact execute him.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Jedit posted:

Not only does Apple demand a 30% cut for distributing, they also mandate that people cannot sell anything distributed by them anywhere else for less.

That I was not aware of. Those fuckers.

Shadowed Bacon
Apr 28, 2009

E-Tank posted:

Lets see...First the man is now probably permanently deaf on that side. Second, psychological torture is still torture, I don't give a gently caress if he didn't in fact execute him.

And that incident is precisely why he is a former Col.

Wikipedia posted:

While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a plot to ambush his unit. The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, an Iraqi police officer. West had his men detain Hamoodi.[16] Soldiers testified that in the process of detaining Hamoodi, he appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[16] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 2/20th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[17] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[16] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[16] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[16] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[16]

West was charged with violating Articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[17] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[16] Lieutenant Colonel West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[17] At his hearing, West said that there were no ambushes against American forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post a month later.[17] After West's retirement he received more than 2,000 letters and e-mails offering him moral support.[16] A letter supporting West was signed by 95 members of Congress and sent to the Secretary of the Army.[16]

He's basically unapologetic about beating and assaulting an innocent police officer, even after being brought up on charges. I am not going to like the flattery the Ol' Debt Master will slather on this rear end.

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010

TheDarkFlame posted:

I remember finding a blog full of loving awful comic-book drawings where the women clearly had no spine and sometimes the anatomy was completely broken in every way. It's pretty clear that comic book artists have a tried-and-true method for drawing women that goes: draw huge boobs, thenbutt, insert face, add details. Costume optional. And people really think it's empowering that Power Girl's costume has a loving huge boob window where a superhero's symbol usually is.

I thought it was called centaurgirls or something, but apparently it's not that, given the amount of porn Google just gave me when I searched that.

One of the weirdest rabbit holes I went down on the Internet lead to a Silent Hill 3 slashfic photoshop invite-only Yahoo group. The protagonist is in a hellish, blood-and-rust nightmare, yet ... holy gently caress. Even if the pics didn't have explicit nudity or giant evil cock monsters I couldn't post them because the main character is a minor. I think it was later featured on Goldmine (I may be thinking of the Horrors Of Porn with the flying dick tentacle monster, it's not much different than that).

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

a bridge happened! :btroll:

While the proof of a conspiracy to cause a traffic jam on the bridge is shockingly blatant, no one will remember this by 2016. The texts and emails are as bad as the, "ha ha, Grandma's power just got shut off" Enron calls during the California brownouts, but no matter how shocking it is US citizens have goldfish memory. On top of that, Christie is so damned likable even I feel bad for him, the song and dance he gave during the press conference were the words of a good guy done wrong by his staff (whether he's telling the truth or not).

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

pd187 posted:

Is she implying "teach a man to fish" was said by Jesus Christ (or William Shakespeare)?? Between this cartoon and the earlier Lester that had Pope Francis scrubbing out the latter half of the phrase, I think right-wingers literally think that's from the Holy Bible and not from (*googles*) Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie's 1885 novel Mrs. Dymond.

Jesus Christ, famous for refusing to give hungry people fish.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010
Regarding the verboten person in the OP, the thread is archived and there's no SAclopedia article so at risk of baiting myself is the reason his work can't be discussed due to being a goon?

I also have no idea what his real name is so I don't know what I'm supposed to be avoiding.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

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Actually, on that note, is it just me or are we only now getting to the WHAT GLOBAL WARMING? cartoons? Like, in early January?

Didn't they mostly come out in late December last year?

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Somfin posted:

Actually, on that note, is it just me or are we only now getting to the WHAT GLOBAL WARMING? cartoons? Like, in early January?

Didn't they mostly come out in late December last year?

I recall a mess of "is Global Warming, why snow in Jerusalem" stuff happening at the time (indeed, if there's anything that serves as an example that climate is very much not changing, it's the worst storm seen in the last hundred years)

The Time Dissolver
Nov 7, 2012

Are you a good person?

Anatharon posted:

Regarding the verboten person in the OP, the thread is archived and there's no SAclopedia article so at risk of baiting myself is the reason his work can't be discussed due to being a goon?

I also have no idea what his real name is so I don't know what I'm supposed to be avoiding.

Spoilered in hopes that this will only count as bending a thread rule instead of breaking it:

Every Goon who's ever wished we had professional political cartoonists actually posting here either wasn't around or has forgotten what it was like when Deep Hurting was allowed. His name was Terrence Nowicki and because he himself regularly posted in the thread, Goons were extra picky with their confusion or objections to his toons, knowing he would read and often respond to them. Almost every new cartoon of his immediately caused pages-long derails, the charge usually being male-gaze, overuse of pop-culture references, or, because his cartoon was only weekly, failing to address one current event or another. His toons regularly made for the thread's most godawfully pointless dogpiles, and it's for the best that he's no longer posted.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

pd187 posted:

Is she implying "teach a man to fish" was said by Jesus Christ (or William Shakespeare)?? Between this cartoon and the earlier Lester that had Pope Francis scrubbing out the latter half of the phrase, I think right-wingers literally think that's from the Holy Bible and not from (*googles*) Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie's 1885 novel Mrs. Dymond.

Aw come on it really sounds like something Jesus would say!

*Ignores major Jesus miracle where he literally gives people fish*

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Bennett drew a pretty good visual metaphor slash reference slash indictment of the GOP, even if it does show a little too much misplaced trust in the Democrats.

ClownSyndrome
Sep 2, 2011

Do you think love can bloom on bob-omb Battlefield?
Give a man a fish and he'll sell the fish for drug money and laugh at you while you go fishing everyday and he gets to stay home and get high and vote for Obama

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

The Time Dissolver posted:

Spoilered in hopes that this will only count as bending a thread rule instead of breaking it:

Yeah, you should be safe, everyone knows that mods can't see spoilers.


loquacius posted:

Bennett drew a pretty good visual metaphor slash reference slash indictment of the GOP, even if it does show a little too much misplaced trust in the Democrats.

Bennett might be good, but he's still a cheerleader thru and thru.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Much like the iconic "raising" the flag on Iwo Jima, the "war on poverty" is just a staged gesture made by Democrats to curry favour. A good cartoon.

(Oh, and good job replacing the Native American marine with a white guy.)

Randler fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jan 10, 2014

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret

Monaghan posted:

Starfire has been wearing stupid god awful outfits since the eighties and the only time that I can remember her having a half decent costume was the teen titans cartoon.

You also also don't want to go near the never ending spiral of lunacy that is talking to comic book fans about sexist portrayals of women.

I always saw Starfire as Wolfman and Perez's homage to Dejah Thoris and the classic pulp alien princesses. Her signature portrayal is 'full of life'. So any way you look at it, the cartoon version is more true to her than that reboot. Not really important, but hey.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

euphronius posted:

Aw come on it really sounds like something Jesus would say!

Personally I've always heard it attributed to Confucius.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Livingtrope posted:

Bennett might be good, but he's still a cheerleader thru and thru.
Bennett cheerleads, but he does (rarely) call out Obama on stuff.

Sadly not enough, as evidenced by his NSA cartoons frequently not including Obama for SOME reason. However, he never reaches Animal Nuz levels of asskissing.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP


Obama's economic policies reroute tax dollars to the rich and vocal.
AGC.

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colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

Mike Lester knows what those blacks should *really* be upset about -- video of a two-year-old child cursing.

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