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Actually, his reason for not going to Choose Goose was that he needed a sword, and the armor Choose Goose sold them was [insert hourglass hand gesture here]. That at least was a pretty (un)subtle nod to the phallic nature of swords.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Finn loses his arm, gains Grass Venom as his nemesis. Grass Venom later spawns Crabgrass Carnage, Cartoon Network produces summer event movie Maximum MojoKingBee posted:Seriously though Pretty boy zombies?
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Jan 21, 2014 22:17
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Roland Jones posted:Actually, his reason for not going to Choose Goose was that he needed a sword, and the armor Choose Goose sold them was [insert hourglass hand gesture here]. That at least was a pretty (un)subtle nod to the phallic nature of swords.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:18
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MojoKingBee posted:Okay, now you're seriously reaching. His old sword broke, so he got a new one. How is that phallic? Freud would have a field day on you, I tell ya. If I had photoshop I'd make a .gif of that part where Finn unzips his sleeping bag and whips out his grass sword in a state of panic. I definitely remember having similar experiences when I was a tween. But then at the end of the episode he adopts a healthy attitude towards his libido. You're free to read into this episode how ever much or little you want to, though. 
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Jan 21, 2014 22:18
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This object which stiffens and unstiffens and is now part of his body forever is totally not a phallic symbol imo
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Jan 21, 2014 22:27
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ScumLord69 posted:Surprised nobody mentioned how this episode was unambiguously exploring Finn's puberty via boner sword. The symbolism all seemed very obvious, almost heavy handed (the shop he buys it from is a giant hairy vagina even). I'm guessing it's kind of a given at this point that the interplay between phallic and yonic symbols is one of the central characteristics of the show. I think that's rad for a children's show, especially considering how healthy the lesson seems to be here. Steve Yun posted:It's interesting that once Finn accepts it he's no longer scared of it and gains some control over it. Like Jung's shadow or something.  Say Nothing posted:Whatevs. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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Jan 21, 2014 22:32
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Roland Jones posted:Actually, his reason for not going to Choose Goose was that he needed a sword, and the armor Choose Goose sold them was [insert hourglass hand gesture here]. That at least was a pretty (un)subtle nod to the phallic nature of swords. No, I'm pretty sure it's an unsubtle reference to the fact that the time they went to Choose Goose for armor, they ended up with this:  Thus the hand gesture. But hey, if you wanna see dicks everywhere then be my guest.
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Sometimes a cursed sword Is just a cursed sword, boys. You are way overreaching on this one. Besides, if it was supposed to be a member, everyone knows it's supposed to be a bludgeoning weapon, not a slashing. Get your attack types right!  Edit: close your tags ya dingdong Spiffster fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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Jan 21, 2014 22:38
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The phallic imagery is obvious, especially given how blatant the show has been in the past. That doesn't mean this show is about Finn discovering his penis. It's about Finn buying a new sword. But this is an intentionally constructed work of fiction, not a documentary, and that means that many of the concepts in it are similar to other, less specific concepts. Edit: it is okay & legitimate to notice things like that Bongo Bill fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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Jan 21, 2014 22:39
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TwoPair posted:No, I'm pretty sure it's an unsubtle reference to the fact that the time they went to Choose Goose for armor, they ended up with this: Yeah the whole point was Choose Goose sold them lady armor, and this time they need a man's weapon.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:40
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All swords are dicks.
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Spiffster posted:Edit: close your tags ya dingdong Check out this phallic imagery!
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Let's not get stuck on "this sword is a penis" when the more interesting thing is "puberty is something that adolescents are taught to be ashamed of, but accepting your own sexuality is a healthy attitude and will give you better control over yourself"
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Jan 21, 2014 22:43
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Steve Yun posted:Some of you guys are fixated on "this sword is a penis" when the more interesting thing is "puberty is something that adolescents are taught to be ashamed of, but accepting your own sexuality is a healthy attitude and will give you better control over yourself" Exactly this. If you stop at "the sword is a penis" because talking about penises is icky, you can't carry that line of reasoning forward and discover what they're actually saying about penises. Which in this case happens to be a good and reasonable thing to say. (And if you don't think it is, then for you it can be about swords and not about penises. That's okay too.)
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Are we really fixated on it when we downplay it don't bring it up at all?
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What I'm more curious about is what's up with all the candle imagery.
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At first the curse is scary and makes you ashamed But who knows, if you accept that it's there and stop being scared of it, you might even have fun with your curse. 
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  edit: Bongo Bill posted:What I'm more curious about is what's up with all the candle imagery. edit: VVVV you're a goddamn genius Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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Jan 21, 2014 22:55
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Bongo Bill posted:What I'm more curious about is what's up with all the candle imagery. Pretty sure it ties back into Flame Princess somehow. If it does, that's some interesting imagery with the sword carving Finn into the candle.
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tractor fanatic posted:This object which stiffens and unstiffens and is now part of his body forever is totally not a phallic symbol imo Anyway, I highly doubt it's about penises or even puberty. What does Finn's blood sword symbolises? Did Finn have erectile dysfunction and thought about becoming asexual, but some old man re-awakened his sexuality? Wait, did this wizard abuse Finn then? Or maybe Choose Goose was Jesus, what about that? If anything, this episode was about pot and how to properly handle the situation when your dealer pushes you some bad stuff. BLAZE IT WOOOOOOOOOO TWENTY THREE!
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I find it hilarious that people are so vehemently denying phallic imagery in a show where there was an episode about the teenage main character having dreams about his girlfriend blasting him in the crotch. Dreams he really, really liked.
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Look, this is penis imagery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_WeKcY0FJg&t=38s
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Roland Jones posted:I find it hilarious that people are so vehemently denying phallic imagery in a show where there was an episode about the teenage main character having dreams about his girlfriend blasting him in the crotch. Dreams he really, really liked. And also when one of the actual storyboard artists occasionally drops by the thread to say "Yes that was meant as symbolic imagery."
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Roland Jones posted:I find it hilarious that people are so vehemently denying phallic imagery in a show where there was an episode about the teenage main character having dreams about his girlfriend blasting him in the crotch. Dreams he really, really liked. Marceline's dad is still a massive oval office, though.
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Every single one of these 148 episodes has to be about something completely different from all the others.
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They don't have to but they sort of are.
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Paladinus posted:I wish mine would do that whenever I want and I could cut candles with it in the shape of my head. And, yes, sometimes I just like to have a weird old man chuck furniture at it. Dude do you not understand that symbolism can be fairly complex and may even deal in ambiguities? That's why it's ok for people to have varying interpretations of things. Don't really see any of your suggested interpretations being particularly useful btw. They seem a little far-fetched to me, but whatever. Paladinus posted:They don't have to but they sort of are. This season has prominently featured at least one multi-episode arc featuring many recurring elements, both narrative and thematic. ScumLord69 fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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Jan 21, 2014 23:43
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Don't worry guys, I'm sure the grass sword is inflammable.
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Bongo Bill posted:Every single one of these 148 episodes has to be about something completely different from all the others. There's always a theme to the Graybles, but it's not always obvious at first!
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If they wanted this to be about a phallus why didn't they replace finn's arm with abracadaniel
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Rita Repulsa posted:If they wanted this to be about a phallus why didn't they replace finn's arm with abracadaniel  Cause you never know when that phallic image might turn yonic
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O.K, everyone shut up now. Back on subject... Wedding Ring!  Is Finn going to sport a green wrist band from now on, or will he simply summon the sword from nowhere, anime style? 
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Paladinus posted:No, that's exactly why I struggle to believe it's one of these. Puberty is pretty much covered already and I don't see how buying a new sword adds to previous episodes on the subject. Frost and Fire featured Finn struggling with new confusing feelings and screwing up because of it. This episode featured him coming to embrace a scary new aspect of himself that he suddenly felt himself faced with. This episode was a lot more symbolic than Frost and Fire (Frost and Fire was quite possibly literally about awakening sexuality) but even though this episode wasn't literally about penises, it's showing that Finn is growing in the way he deals with changes in his life and his self.
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Sockser posted:Don't worry guys, I'm sure the grass sword is inflammable. Nice one.
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Say Nothing posted:Is Finn going to sport a green wrist band from now on, or will he simply summon the sword from nowhere, anime style? Huh, that would be the first change to his regular design, wouldn't it?
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Paladinus posted:Anyway, I highly doubt it's about penises or even puberty. What does Finn's blood sword symbolises? Well, it was his dad's sword. I suppose there's something Freudian about that...
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Say Nothing posted:Wedding Ring! I don't think it's an accident that we got this conspicuous shot of her wedding ring at the same time that Finn adds a new permanent attachment to his arm. Their new duds are symbols of entering new chapters in their lives.
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Roland Jones posted:I find it hilarious that people are so vehemently denying phallic imagery in a show where there was an episode about the teenage main character having dreams about his girlfriend blasting him in the crotch. Dreams he really, really liked. Wait Which episode was this
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Steve Yun posted:But who knows, if you accept that it's there and stop being scared of it, you might even have fun with your curse. So what you're saying is Finn is Dennis Reynolds.   
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Captain Oblivious posted:Wait Frost and Fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aTPyYp7vEg In the third dream, someone in this thread pointed out that Finn becomes a summary of puberty: an awkwardly proportioned hairy man-baby who babbles incoherently. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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