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d0s posted:It's pretty criminal to make an Amiga megapost and not talk about demos. Problem is, I know nothing about the demoscene beyond State of the Art. It would be awesome if someone knowledgeable would make an Amiga demoscene megapost listing the coolest demos! I wish I knew anything interesting about the demoscene at all, but it was very euro-centric and I'm all the way down here in Australia so had no idea what was going on. However, I loved me some demos so here's some that are worth a look: This might well be the first one I ever saw, but my memory is hazy. I remember decompiling the music and seeing that it used a bunch of what I thought were awful sound samples from some released disk collection. Just goes to show what someone can do when they are great musicians. DOC demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNSx_fgtq1o Enigma/Phenomena. I like this one more for the music than the visuals, really. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuesTvUYsSc HumanTarget by MelonDesign. I'm putting this one in mainly because this is the first time I think I've seen the demo. I only got the music track back in the day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtLWkgtb8bg Looking through some demo lists I see I lied about the DOC demo being the first I saw. The first had to be this one, the Juggler demo that was used in shop windows to show off the Amiga, and I would have seen this well before I bought my Amiga 2000. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxSGvQSWfZc Another one I like for the music - Rebels Coma. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy6n7Wd3IeM Honourable mention goes to the Bar Brian demo, using samples from the game Barbarian. They win the award for sneaking rampant cartoon cock into a demo. Lots of Amiga demos featured animation that went along with each of the 4 audio channels, and this takes that to the extreme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAaUlcl7gfk Not demo related, but did anyone post about the Video Toaster in this thread yet? I think because the system was clocked so well in relation to video hardware of the day it was well-suited for work on broadcast video systems. The Toaster was a hunk of hardware that would let you do effects and video work for TV, but don't let me tell you about it. Listen to Wil Wheaton, Penn Jillete, and Tony Hawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_K8vnx2ZDc I really should go to my shed and look through all my Amiga floppies to see what demos I liked so much, rather than look at lists on the web and hope something jumps out at me.
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Check out the Mind Candy DVD's--they are top quality collections of great demos. They put a ton of work into getting the demos to transfer to DVD without issues (there are all kinds of nightmares with framerates, interlacing, etc.) and it really shows in the great quality. Looks like you can download the out of print DVDs for free now too: http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ My favorite demos are from the early PC days. Future Crew in particular did some amazing stuff like Second Reality, which basically proved the PC could be just as good and even better than the Amiga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFv7mHTf0nA I still love the soundtrack from that demo.
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mod sassinator posted:My favorite demos are from the early PC days. Future Crew in particular did some amazing stuff like Second Reality, which basically proved the PC could be just as good and even better than the Amiga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVPW40ygds4
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Pierzak posted:And after watching the original Second Reality, watch this one: Haha drat, that is pretty impressive for a C64. One thing I forgot to mention about the Mind Candy DVDs--most of the demos have commentary tracks with the original authors (including Future Crew for Second Reality) and are super fascinating. A lot of them explain how they made certain effects, how long they spent working on them, etc. Really great stuff if you're at all interested in the demo scene.
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Sticking those 2 into Youtube Doubler was great to compare them. I mean, the timing is different but you get to see the effects nicely. Amazing stuff on the C64. e: And both the first and second Mind Candy DVDs are available for free download. Nice. http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ Gromit fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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I know this thread seems to be more about physical computers, but any tips on Amiga emulation for someone who never owned a real Amiga? I can get one running, but don't really know what to do next. Or would I be better just picking up Amiga Forever?
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Angrymog posted:I know this thread seems to be more about physical computers, but any tips on Amiga emulation for someone who never owned a real Amiga? Find ADF files of games you want to play, put them in the emulator's virtual drives, boot the emulator. Make sure you have Kickstart 1.3 ROMs in it's config directory.
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Red Warrior posted:Another good resource for Amiga game recommendations is Amiga Power's Top 100 list which ran annually. http://amr.abime.net/ mod sassinator posted:My favorite demos are from the early PC days. Future Crew in particular did some amazing stuff like Second Reality, which basically proved the PC could be just as good and even better than the Amiga:
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Ooh, demos! Obligatory Spaceballs links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCc5ZHqwdXY - State of the Art https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-RfTaxcMw - Nine Fingers Also have fond memories of the LSD Grapevines - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapevine_(disk_magazine) - that managed to work their way around our big piles of copied floppies (if you didn't sit up 'til the early hours of the morning cursing XCopy and Nibbler you were doing it wrong). I think Hugi picked up from where it left off, but didn't have the charm for me. And the last ones were full of terrible teenage drama (we were all terrible and teenaged). Europe was a great place to be for the Amiga in those years. Good times.
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As a former mildly prolific demoscener myself I feel obligated to post a link to Nectarine Demoscene Radio, as it is pretty much your one-stop shop for amazing computer-based nostalgia: https://www.scenemusic.net/demovibes/ And this is even coming from a member of the USA/DOS demoscene which is pretty largely underrepresented due to Nectarine's Euro/Amigacentric focus (but fortunately that happens to still make it awesome).
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Here's some stuff I neglected to include in my games post because I'm an idiot: Leander - Traveller's Tales  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mROgK7srbDM Very good platformer/hack and slash by Traveller's Tales. Reminds me of Conquest of the Crystal Palace for NES of all things.  ALLOWS A SECOND BUTTON FOR JUMPINGCybernoid/Cybernoid II - A.P. Cooper  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0k_kS49sek Very "C64-ish" series of shooters, cool music. Wolfchild - Core  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lF1rSfZFhI You're a werewolf trying to save his dad or something  . Strange plot but great graphics, lovely controls.X-Out - Rainbow Arts  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeEmfFdyLlM Cool but very difficult shooter where you can build out a ship before the game which adds an element of strategy. Great atmosphere. Assassin - Psionic  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j0GQ0vQwUI Inane sidescroller with bad controls, still kind of fun?? Shadow of the Beast Series - Reflections  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-U6HUaAONI Famous series of sidescrollers with great art direction. Speedball/Speedball 2 - Bitmap Brothers  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH5_h5iowgc Excellent futuristic sports game. d0s fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Feb 25, 2014 |
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Quarex posted:As a former mildly prolific demoscener myself I feel obligated to post a link to Nectarine Demoscene Radio, as it is pretty much your one-stop shop for amazing computer-based nostalgia: Wow that's awesome--I remember listening to Nectarine back in the early 2000's. Glad to see it's still around.
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Something folks here might be interested in, it looks like Monoprice is having a sale on their mechanical keyboard: http://slickdeals.net/f/6743848-monoprice-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-cherry-mx-blue-43-shipping It looks a lot like a model M and has Cherry MX blue switches so it should have a similar feel and sound as the model M. No stupid gamer stuff like backlight or x-treme!! branding. Not a bad price ($43) considering how stupidly expensive mechanical keyboards can get.
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Pierzak posted:The list grows. Can you do strategy/RPG titles next? I don't think he likes that sort of game much. Which is probably why he trolls me on IRC even though I spent a good 2 hours scanning that 1200 guide to save his sorry spending 1000+ on a x68000 rear end.  But if you like Dungeon Master clones the Miggy is packed with them. I would list a site that has wrapper exes for a ton of Amiga games but that would probably be  so I won't. (But feel free to ask me on IRC for the link. Consider this my way of forcing more of you fucks to get onto #retrochat. Plus we can troll you with Vkeios' love for anime and I can annoy with Two Best Sisters Play and TGWTG which apparently enrages people.)Strategy isn't as big though. A lot of PC ports mostly. And Battle Isle. And Cannon Fodder and Lemmings if you want to call them Strategy. See that's the thing with the Amiga. If you aren't in the UK it is really a giant pain in the rear end. But if you don't mind not Amiga experience a shitload of games were on other platforms, sometimes better sometimes worse. Unlike how most NES ports of C64 games were a sin against both God and Man, Genesis from Amiga usually ended up as good, sometimes better (No up to jump! No loading!), sometimes worse if they didn't account for PAL/NTSC framerates. (Shadow of the Beast. Because it wasn't nearly impossible UK Micro hard to begin with..) Some end up as a wash like Gods. Runs stupid fast on SNES and Genesis ports and loses the Nation 12 song but gains in game music and a jump button. I guess if you adore you some Turbo Street Fighter 2 it will be your new Jam. Or when the Retron 5 comes out or an emulator just go to PAL speed if capable and still enjoy a game that will still be UK Micro tough. Basically a DOS PC (or DOSBOX which every retro computer gamer should have unless you really want to be like Lazy Game Reviews and have space for 5 Intel x86 platforms) and a Genesis will give you about a third to a half of all the major Amiga titles. And usually in a good format. One of these days I plan on compiling a list of US Genesis games that are from the Amiga and collecting them all. But as a TurboDuo owner I do have the best version of Shadow of the Beast so there. CD music? More colors on the sprites? Jump button? More than 12 HP life options? Continues? Hell yeah. Sadly Beast 3 is not on consoles so the original trilogy isn't playable on any platform but the Amiga and maybe the PC. Also the expansions to Hero Quest and Space Crusade seem to be Amiga only even if the DOS ports got CDROM releases. Like all retro computing its based on how much effort you want to put into it all.
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I'm not asking for files~. I can get many popular games cheaply enough and I have an actual local retro-gaming store (with reasonable, non-inflated prices! Last time I was there you could get best boxed versions of many games, complete/mint/originally sealed, for like $15-20 a pop), so I'm covered on this front. I was mainly looking for some insight on which titles are actually worth playing, which ones were good back in the day but aged badly, and which ones are surprise turds that happen to be very pretty on the outside. For example, I'm absolutely in love with Perihelion's atmosphere and art style, but it seems that it's noticeably worse than it seems. I want to avoid pitfalls where actually playing the game would not be enjoyable, compared to watching a longplay. I basically grew up on Dungeon Master-type games, so I'd love some more. As for strategy, I didn't mean that in the PC gaming "turn-based military game", but I know Amiga has quite a few of strategy/RPG hybrids. Also, economic and simmy (in the building/management sense) games.
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 I collect Lucasfilm Games/LucasArts stuff, because they were my favorite studio of all time. I think the combination they had of wildly creative people with a huge bankroll to fund their games is a unique environment we'll never see again in game development.  I think my collection is probably unique. A lot of people collect the well-known adventure games, but I also collect everything that lead up to them. Lucasfilm Games did work for other publishers (Atari, Epyx, EA, Activision) before self-publishing Maniac Mansion in 1987, and went on to almost exclusively self-publish from then on, focusing mainly on the adventures. Even though I'm only really a fan of the adventure games, I always felt like the stuff that preceded it was an important part of the story, so I wanted them displayed side-by-side.  Another reason I think my collection is unique is because I collect them like people collect books: I don't want the BEST versions, I want the FIRST versions. I also get them signed sometimes, since I work in the industry and have met a lot of these guys over the years. Above are some of the rarer/more interesting things, including: -An unopened Koronis Rift signed by the entire development staff (of three people) -The preorder-only Grim Fandango "signature edition" with a sturdier box, fake signatures, and a toy inside -A practically new copy of Labyrinth for the C64, probably the hardest Lucasfilm game to get. The shrinkwrap's still on this one! -An unopened Rescue on Fractalus signed by author David Fox -The very first printing of Maniac Mansion for the C64, a newer box was reissued when a parent complained about the word "lust" on the back. -The original 16-color 5.25" floppy EGA version of The Secret of Monkey Island, signed by designer Ron Gilbert. At this point I'm just missing Fate of Atlantis (I just haven't gotten around to it), the other Monkey Islands (I haven't found a copy of 2 I'm happy with, and I don't like 3 or 4 much so I've been slow in acquiring them), and I might get OCD and swap the Mac version of Full Throttle out for the PC version. And then there's the "triangle box" version of Day of the Tentacle to think about...
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It's not an adventure game but you need to add Afterlife to your boxes.
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al-azad posted:It's not an adventure game but you need to add Afterlife to your boxes. If I start doing non-adventure stuff past Maniac Mansion then I have to think about stuff like Pipe Dream and Night Shift and Outlaws and Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe and every Star Wars game ever and...ugh. I'm limiting it to the adventure games, and everything that preceded them. Unfortunately this means I will probably always have exactly one hole: Habitat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitat_(video_game) Habitat is considered the first online virtual world, and it was never actually launched, though there was a beta program with 500 participants. Technically those 500 participants got a beta kit in the mail, but I've never even seen a PICTURE of a disk, let alone one for sale. The manual is scanned online though, which is cool. The game was stripped down and released as Club Caribe through QuantumLink (the company that became AOL). I have a better chance of scoring a Club Caribe kit (a disk, a map, and a manual in a paper envelope) than Habitat, though again, I've never even seen a picture of a disk.
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Oh man, I was already jealous of the fact that you found Labyrinth, but one with the original shrinkwrap? You're killin' me, man. I collect CIB pc games in general, mostly adventure games. I suppose my collection might be more appreciated in this thread than the retro games thread, since that's mainly for console games (sorry about the crummy phone picture):  That first game is the first release of Space Quest (with original shrinkwrap), and the third game from the left is Space Quest 3 missing its sleeve. The pride of my collection is my newest acquisition, Callahan's Crosstime Saloon. Its not a big collection, but it makes me happy and its fun to add to! I also sort of collect old computers. I currently have a c64, an apple IIc, and a mac classic (you can see the mouse of that one in this picture just barely). I would have a whole working museum of them if I could! Awesomonster fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Awesomonster posted:Oh man, I was already jealous of the fact that you found Labyrinth, but one with the original shrinkwrap? You're killin' me, man. It wasn't "find" so much as "freak out when one finally popped up on eBay and spend a couple month's worth of disposable income in a brutal bidding war." This was by far the most I ever spent on a game, outside of unreleased prototypes...
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Captain Rufus posted:I don't think he likes that sort of game much. Which is probably why he trolls me on IRC even though I spent a good 2 hours scanning that 1200 guide to save his sorry spending 1000+ on a x68000 rear end.  I have no idea what you're getting at here and when did I troll you and what does that have to do with the kinds of games I like or what I spend my money on? Are you OK?EDIT: Pierzak posted:The list grows. Can you do strategy/RPG titles next? Sadly they're not really my thing I'm more into arcadey action games, probably other people here can help with that though! d0s fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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TheRedEye posted:It wasn't "find" so much as "freak out when one finally popped up on eBay and spend a couple month's worth of disposable income in a brutal bidding war." This was by far the most I ever spent on a game, outside of unreleased prototypes... I think its fair to say it was worth it! I'm still hoping to come across a copy someday, especially since its one of my favorite games. Also, that's almost how I felt about finding a boxed copy of Callahan's Crosstime Saloon, I was shaking with excitement for days after I bought it like a kid around christmas, and I spent way more on it than I normally would (though its nowhere NEAR as much as other people pay for games, I'm just a tightwad) without batting an eye. Of all the people I know who collect adventure games, nobody has a copy and only one of them has ever even SEEN a copy, so I think only paying what I did was remarkably lucky on my part.
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TheRedEye posted:It wasn't "find" so much as "freak out when one finally popped up on eBay and spend a couple month's worth of disposable income in a brutal bidding war." This was by far the most I ever spent on a game, outside of unreleased prototypes... Wait, Labyrinth is worth a lot of money? I have a copy somewhere, though I don't remember if it's C64 or Apple. Doubt I have anything more than a disk though...
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Awesomonster posted:Of all the people I know who collect adventure games, nobody has a copy and only one of them has ever even SEEN a copy, so I think only paying what I did was remarkably lucky on my part. I bought one for $15 in '98  and still have the disc anyway. Even then I never would have heard of it if it weren't for generally being an adventure nerd at the time. I haven't played it since then and wonder if the humor holds up any.
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Angrymog posted:I know this thread seems to be more about physical computers, but any tips on Amiga emulation for someone who never owned a real Amiga? WinUAE has a 'quickstart' option where you just choose the model and disk images. Nine times out of ten you'll be wanting A500/A2000 1.3 ROM, ECS Angus, 1 MB Chip RAM. As someone else pointed out you'll also need a Kickstart 1.3 ROM (kick31.rom). Just above 'Quickstart' in the settings bar is 'Paths', make sure you your kickstart rom directory points towards where kick13.rom is stored. You can also manually select the ROM under ROM below harware then go back to Quickstart. Demos and trainers on cracked disk images usually require a mouse click to skip past.
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Genpei Turtle posted:Wait, Labyrinth is worth a lot of money? I have a copy somewhere, though I don't remember if it's C64 or Apple. Doubt I have anything more than a disk though... The boxed American version is worth a lot of money, yeah. A loose disk is not worth a lot but is probably worth more than your average loose disk. Foreign versions sell for a reasonable amount too.
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Angrymog posted:I miss big box games. You got a proper manual to read, and maps, and general cool stuff without having to splash out for collectors editions. It's kind of funny that at one point, including a novella was a selling point for a video game. The biggest of the big boxes that I've seen is Star Saga One. It's basically a glorified gamebook but you input your actions into the computer which adjudicates the results. It's multiplayer, too.
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SUPER HASSLER posted:I bought one for $15 in '98 I think it does! I played it as soon as I got it, since I'd never played it with the videos or music before, and I enjoyed it just as much now as I did a decade ago when I first played it. Also, I've seen jewel case only versions before over the years, even those go for about $45! Its such a hidden gem of a game, by far Legend's best game, and that's saying something. Angrymog posted:I miss big box games. You got a proper manual to read, and maps, and general cool stuff without having to splash out for collectors editions. This is kind of exactly why I collect them. I LOVE feelies and maps and documents that come with games, and I miss the days when that was just standard rather than $100 collectors editions. Ultima always just HAD a cloth map, that was just expected when you bought an Ultima game, and I always took it for granted. All my cloth maps of Britannia are missing now and its such a genuine shame!
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al-azad posted:It's kind of funny that at one point, including a novella was a selling point for a video game. I have Star Saga for the Apple II and it is a large box. I do believe Oil Barons had a larger box that was used to hold the game board you played on simultaneously with the computer.  I have 2 copies of this "rare" Epyx game (one for C64 and one for Apple II). It is still quite a bit of fun to break out once in a while.
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Awesomonster posted:This is kind of exactly why I collect them. I LOVE feelies and maps and documents that come with games, and I miss the days when that was just standard rather than $100 collectors editions. Ultima always just HAD a cloth map, that was just expected when you bought an Ultima game, and I always took it for granted. All my cloth maps of Britannia are missing now and its such a genuine shame! 
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Anyone who is not aware of The Shadows' Nose might find his seemingly endless time spent playing 1980s computer games on the original hardware, coupled with his actually being really bad at playing games seemingly, fairly compelling: http://www.youtube.com/user/Theshadowsnose Pierzak posted:I'm not asking for files~. I can get many popular games cheaply enough and I have an actual local retro-gaming store (with reasonable, non-inflated prices! Last time I was there you could get best boxed versions of many games, complete/mint/originally sealed, for like $15-20 a pop), so I'm covered on this front. Does this store have an online storefront?!?! TheRedEye posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitat_(video_game) al-azad posted:The biggest of the big boxes that I've seen is Star Saga One. It's basically a glorified gamebook but you input your actions into the computer which adjudicates the results. It's multiplayer, too. My original-in-box game collection is about 300-odd games large, though I imagine only a small number of those are of actual interest to any collectors. Like I remember someone trying to buy my copy of Knights of Legend off me for like $30, and that was in about 1997, so I can only imagine it is way higher now (or nobody cares anymore, either way). My Rendezvous at Rama box seems like it should be valuable, even though I never even owned a C64 and now I am not too sure I remember how I even ended up with the game. Maybe this industry will get big enough at some point for someone to actually start compiling prices!
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Quarex posted:There is somebody on these forums who was an original Habitat tester; I corresponded with him via private message but I cannot find the exchange off-hand. This is not to say that he would actually still have his original materials or be willing to part with them, but it is at least something interesting to mention. Any lead's a good lead, thanks!
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Your enthusiasm led to me figuring "aw, I am sure I can find it if I look through every private message I have from someone whose name I do not recognize!" and I did that and I STILL FAILED TO FIND IT. I must have accidentally deleted it one of the times my mailbox filled up during the Wasteland 2 Kickstarter  But yes, such a person is out there in THESE VERY FORUMS and you would think someone else in this thread would remember it coming up in whatever context it came up last time that led to me asking about it in private messages in the first place. It was probably either a MMORPG or an "early online memories" thread actually.
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I've been reading this thread and it brings back a lot of memories. A few pages ago, a lot of the old, classic, AD&D games were mentioned (Gold Box series, as well as others) but one I didn't see mentioned, and one of my favorites when I was a kid, is DragonStrike.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ZmLYRkiLo Dragon flight simulator! 
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I'm a fan of Stronghold. Really unique city builder that's almost like an early Majesty where everything is mostly automated and you incentivize production.
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