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I've always read that to be you could go to places like theaters to see the event, as opposed to it being available on cable or similar. You're probably more familiar with closed circuit television written as CCTV, it still exists to this day for security purposes, gig venues where you can't always see the stage etc.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:This is probably very stupid, but I can't actually get a clear answer on Wikipedia, so- Pretty much. You'd pay money to see the event at a local venue that was showing it, kinda like paying a cover charge to go to a bar showing a UFC event today. I'm too young to remember this, but apparently Wrestlemania I was shown on the local ABC affiliate in Pittsburgh due to a problem at the local showing: quote:A technical glitch ended the closed circuit broadcast early into the showing at the Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. To appease angry fans who pelted the screen with garbage, WrestleMania was broadcast in its entirety on local ABC affiliate WTAE-TV two weeks later.[23] This mishap is mistakenly attributed to WrestleMania 2 in the "True Story of WrestleMania" DVD and Blu-ray release. The WWF continued to advertise their big cards as "available on pay-per-view and closed circuit television" as late as the early '90s. Thauros fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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EL BROMANCE posted:I'm intrigued as to whether PPV buy rates being affected were the reason they stopped doing events in the UK? If that's the case, could a shift to Network mean that we might get one back on our shores again? Probably. The Network shift certainly makes it more possible but it would be a B-show if it happened at all.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:This is probably very stupid, but I can't actually get a clear answer on Wikipedia, so- Yup. I watched Wrestlemania 5 at Maple Leaf Gardens here and it was just a gigantic screen.
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Apr 9, 2014 17:25
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I distantly recall a theater in Thunder Bay, Ontario running WWE PPVs in the mid-2000's.
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Apr 9, 2014 17:30
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Theatres in Toronto still run WWE PPVs, off and on. I remember checking about one recently (Royal Rumble maybe?) Where no one was showing it, but looking now and theatres are listed for Extreme Rules, Payback and MITB
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Apr 9, 2014 17:53
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Same in the Vancouver area. I can't imagine myself ever watching a PPV that way though since it would probably be a theatre full of kids and their stressed-out parents.
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Apr 9, 2014 17:57
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Delsaber posted:Same in the Vancouver area. I can't imagine myself ever watching a PPV that way though since it would probably be a theatre full of kids and their stressed-out parents. In Edmonton, it's usually not many kids, except at wm and RR. And even then, it's like 10%ish.
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Apr 9, 2014 18:06
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Whenever I've been to a show at a theatre it's full of the dregs of society, no kids or anything. It's basically like going to your average indie show. It's pretty fun though, seeing it with a bunch of other enthusiastic wrestling fans is as close as you'll get to being there in the live crowd. I remember the theatre freaking out for Cena to tap when he went up against HHH at Mania that one year.
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triplexpac posted:Whenever I've been to a show at a theatre it's full of the dregs of society, no kids or anything. It's basically like going to your average indie show. It's been a few years, but when I checked out Wrestlemanias at the Scotiabank Theatre in downtown Toronto it was filled with 20-somethings and university students. Loud smarks and older fans mostly, probably helped by the face that parents probably wouldn't want to take their kids to a relatively close-quarters space for such a rowdy show.
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Apr 9, 2014 18:36
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Thauros posted:The WWF continued to advertise their big cards as "available on pay-per-view and closed circuit television" as late as the early '90s. And even after that they'd talk about how you could go to WWF Blast Zones (supported venue showing the event) to see the PPVs.
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http://www.wwe.com/inside/remember-that-time/page-8 So this article doesn't really answer the question but who the hell thought letting Scott Steiner come to the ring with a live tiger was a good idea and why would he do that anyway? Or is the answer just simply because Scott Steiner?
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Apr 9, 2014 20:08
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EL BROMANCE posted:I'm intrigued as to whether PPV buy rates being affected were the reason they stopped doing events in the UK? If that's the case, could a shift to Network mean that we might get one back on our shores again? That's probably the reason why they stopped although it may not have been fair given the card. Meltzer ran some numbers and apparently if they could fill a stadium in the UK it would have been more profitable to run a B PPV there even before the Network, so with the Network there should be a chance.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:12
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Boardroom Jimmy posted:http://www.wwe.com/inside/remember-that-time/page-8 That tiger was one of Steiner's freaks. They had know way of knowing just what Steiner meant when he said he wanted to have one of his freaks in the ring.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:12
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Boardroom Jimmy posted:http://www.wwe.com/inside/remember-that-time/page-8 Circa-2000 WCW? I think you know who.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:13
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I don't know why a tiger would agree to come to the ring with Scott Steiner either, that's way too much danger for a member of an endangered species
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LvK posted:That tiger was one of Steiner's freaks. They had know way of knowing just what Steiner meant when he said he wanted to have one of his freaks in the ring. As opposed to knowing what Big Poppa Pump the Big Bad Booty Daddy Scott Steiner means when he says anything else?
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Apr 9, 2014 20:16
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Boardroom Jimmy posted:http://www.wwe.com/inside/remember-that-time/page-8 The answer is now and always will be "WCW".
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Apr 9, 2014 23:04
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Is Roman Reigns related to The Rock?
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Apr 9, 2014 23:11
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Cousin, I'd guess. He's Sika's kid (and Rosey's brother).
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Apr 9, 2014 23:17
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Anoa'i family tree Dwayne's grandfather and Joe's grandfather consider themselves "blood brothers," which I believe is considered totally legitimate in their culture, but they are not genetically related.
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Apr 9, 2014 23:19
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Which leads to a question that occurred to me when I saw Rock hugging his mom on the way to the ring on Sunday... do Hall of Famers get comped for Mania? It seemed like Rock was kind of a last-minute thing to have his mother come out in order to see him, but if she was there for the HoF, it'd make sense, kinda?
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Apr 9, 2014 23:59
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I'm sure they reserve some seats for that sort of thing (I doubt Bret, Bruno, and Backlund paid for their seats, for instance). Plus I'm pretty certain they would move/toss some rando if the Rock needed that seat for his mom.
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projecthalaxy posted:Plus I'm pretty certain they would move/toss some rando if the Rock needed that seat for his mom. When The Rock found out somebody was complaining about being moved, he asked them to explain what their reasons were. The person started to give his reasons, and then a series of predictable events unfolded.
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Apr 10, 2014 00:10
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I imagine WWE reserves some seats near the front of every PPV and just gives them out for internal company reasons like snagging a WWE Legend, a celebrity or an "Employee of the Month" style deal.
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Apr 10, 2014 00:23
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Between getting a subscription to the Network, watching Raw and now looking forward to SmackDown, in addition to having a partner that actually enjoys wrestling, I'm back into watching it regularly for the first time in a looooong time. So I've been wondering, is there a regular chat for goons to discuss wrestling? Like an IRC channel or something?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Between getting a subscription to the Network, watching Raw and now looking forward to SmackDown, in addition to having a partner that actually enjoys wrestling, I'm back into watching it regularly for the first time in a looooong time. So I've been wondering, is there a regular chat for goons to discuss wrestling? Like an IRC channel or something? Game day threads. Come Friday when Smackdown is on, look for the Smackdown thread.
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What was the general consensus at the time, as well as the opinion now, on Biker Taker? As a kid I loved it(oh man he drove a motorcycle to the ring so cooooooooooooool) but now it just seems like a really weird direction that isn't helped by loving awful theme music. Was it hated back then and I was an outlier?
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OldTennisCourt posted:What was the general consensus at the time, as well as the opinion now, on Biker Taker? As a kid I loved it(oh man he drove a motorcycle to the ring so cooooooooooooool) but now it just seems like a really weird direction that isn't helped by loving awful theme music. I thought it mostly sucked then and I think it mostly sucks now but honest to god it was necessary because I think the gimmick would've burned out if it didn't happen.
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I have to agree that it was an interesting and somewhat necessary direction for the Undertaker character to take at the time. However, the parade of awful music (Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit) along with terrible matches and the most selfish years he's had really make it a "Meh, you could skip it" time of his career.
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OldTennisCourt posted:What was the general consensus at the time, as well as the opinion now, on Biker Taker? As a kid I loved it(oh man he drove a motorcycle to the ring so cooooooooooooool) but now it just seems like a really weird direction that isn't helped by loving awful theme music. There was a few versions of it, from the Brothers of Destruction-Paul Bearer in sunglasses-Big Show's snakeskin boots version, to the Kid Rock/Limp Bizkit theme song version, to the completely psychotic rear end in a top hat "Big Evil" version. I think the latter one kinda worked but the former two absolutely did not. A lot of bad angles and other stuff tangentially came out of it, like the Kanyon Boy George gimmick, stalker DDP, David Flair getting television time, Sara Taker getting television time, Undertaker fans being forced to listen to a lot of rap rock two or three years after that stopped being a thing, and all of that was worse than the actual Bikertaker thing.
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He also worked enough of a different style from his Dead Man gimmick that he kind of showed his limitations imo. As has been said, he had bad matches with Kurt Angle, which is challenging
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Jerusalem posted:When The Rock found out somebody was complaining about being moved, he asked them to explain what their reasons were. The person started to give his reasons, and then a series of predictable events unfolded.
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Apr 10, 2014 06:03
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Just watch HIAC vs. Brock and the ladder match vs. Jeff Hardy and you're all set
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Nut Bunnies posted:Just watch HIAC vs. Brock and the ladder match vs. Jeff Hardy and you're all set the triple threat with Angle and Rock is good too IIRC
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I guess bikertaker was supposed to be face at first. Re-watching that era while being older than 13 makes me dislike the gimmick. I loved it when I was a kid but now he just comes off as a psychotic rear end in a top hat bully. It's hard coming off as an rear end in a top hat face and Taker can't do it. The early feud he had with Angle was terrible. It made me sympathetic to Angle when the story clearly was trying to make me pissed at Angle for doing something like accidentally getting milk on Taker's bike. I think Angle tried giving him a scooter to make up for it. Angle came off well meaning but ignorant and got his rear end kicked for it.
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The thing I hated most about Biker Taker was how every promo was about how the ring was his yard, he was the top dog, and something something respect. Undertaker has never been a great promo but those Biker Taker promos were the loving worst.
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:For those who don't remember, apply everything that people say about HHH, and add "can't work a match to save his life," and you've effectively summarized the collective opinion of the year 2000's internet on BikerTaker.
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LividLiquid posted:For those who don't remember, apply everything that people say about HHH, and add "can't work a match to save his life," and you've effectively summarized the collective opinion of the year 2000's internet on BikerTaker. Oh god, now I'm remembering good ol' Scott Keith's commentary after his review of the Undertaker/Kurt Angle match at a July PPV in 2000. Kurt had just debuted and was doing well, Taker was Bikertaker, and Keith was Keith: he called Undertaker 'Kevin Nash' in every way he could during the review, and after Undertaker won, busted out this gem of seething smark rage. Scott Keith circa 2000 posted:"Retire now, you crippled, has been, slow-moving, fried-food eating, motorcyle-riding, no-selling, tobacco-chewing, no-money-drawing, talentless piece of selfish poo poo. Kurt Angle is the future, you are NOTHING. Deal with it. And take Kane with you when you go. I’m sure the idiot rubes will cry and Ask the Rick where you went again for six months the next time you leave, but I’ll be happy to see you gone for good, where you can’t drag down any more PPVs." I think, subconsciously, when I was reading that, was my very first inklings that big name fans were utterly full of poo poo. (Ask The Rick was a column on Keith's then-website where people would ask the columnist questions, and apparently while Taker was gone from September 1999 to May 2000 rehabbing injuries they asked where he was a lot)
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Big Evil Bikertaker loving ruled. This is where we got the Jeff Hardy ladder match, beating up David Flair in a bathroom, say What if you sleep with your sister, etc.
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