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Endless Mike posted:I saw someone complain about spoilers for The Return of the King back when the movie came out. People will *always* complain about spoilers. Most people on the planet would have had no reason to read LOTR in their life. I never understand this stupid argument. It doesn't matter how old it is. No one is forced to read GoT or LOTR in their lives. You can read a ton of books and never have read either series. I have personally never read Dune, for example. It literally costs nothing to let people enjoy something as they experience it for the first time. Do you really walk around like an rear end in a top hat and mistreat people because you happen to have seen/read whatever they are currently experiencing before them? I mean I'm the one who has usually seen/read poo poo before most of my friends and family and I don't act like a colossal dick just because they are slower to get around to it than me. I saw Winter Soldier before most of my friends and family and I didn't make a big deal out of the fact that a bunch of them only saw it this weekend and some haven't even seen it yet. I know a few who are waiting for the DVD even. I knew people who knew jack poo poo about The Hobbit and I didn't roll my eyes at them when they expressed ignorance regarding the story. Just don't be a dick to people! I swear that geeks are some of the most miserable people I have ever known in my life.
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Apr 14, 2014 21:37
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People act like such gigantic babies about spoilers. I'd love to see what would happen if there were a forumswide amnesty on posting spoilers. Spoiler: people would freak the gently caress out and it would be hilarious.
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Apr 14, 2014 21:55
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Ya'll posting about spoilers (and non comic book ones at that) when you should be posting about this.quote:
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ToastyPotato posted:Most people on the planet would have had no reason to read LOTR in their life. I never understand this stupid argument. It doesn't matter how old it is. No one is forced to read GoT or LOTR in their lives. You can read a ton of books and never have read either series. I have personally never read Dune, for example. It literally costs nothing to let people enjoy something as they experience it for the first time. Do you really walk around like an rear end in a top hat and mistreat people because you happen to have seen/read whatever they are currently experiencing before them? I mean I'm the one who has usually seen/read poo poo before most of my friends and family and I don't act like a colossal dick just because they are slower to get around to it than me. I saw Winter Soldier before most of my friends and family and I didn't make a big deal out of the fact that a bunch of them only saw it this weekend and some haven't even seen it yet. I know a few who are waiting for the DVD even. I knew people who knew jack poo poo about The Hobbit and I didn't roll my eyes at them when they expressed ignorance regarding the story. Just don't be a dick to people! Does Scalped get good? I read the first trade and thought the art was hideous and the main character completely unlikeable.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:11
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Olibu posted:I could be wrong, but it's possible that there were some people legitimately spoiled when told that Aragorn becomes the king.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:39
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Lord of the Rings was written in like the 40s or 50s. You'd have to be a real rear end in a top hat to hope people don't spoil that. It'd be like someone spoiling that The Wizard is just a dude behind the curtains it's part of the public consciousness, it's out there. If I'm in discussion and make an analogy to Jesus coming back from the dead I'm not going to make sure everyone around me has read the bible.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:40
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I want to meet the guy who was pissed off that the trailer for the first Harry Potter movie revealed that Harry becomes a Wizard. I know he's out there.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:43
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ufarn posted:It was foreshadowed so heavily in the books that the books pretty much spoilt the books. It's entirely possible to foreshadow something and then not have it happen.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:57
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Waterhaul posted:Ya'll posting about spoilers (and non comic book ones at that) when you should be posting about this. Endless Mike posted:Does Scalped get good? I read the first trade and thought the art was hideous and the main character completely unlikeable. If you don't like it from the start, I don't think you'll like it ever. The art stays dark and scratchy, the main character is a real torn up jerk with no good choices left, not a Wolverine style noir hero who talks about how mean he is and constantly redeems himself. Scalped is about a community under attack from the outside and the inside, and you can count the number of happy moments on one hand.
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Apr 14, 2014 23:10
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bunnyofdoom posted:FUn fact: If he didn't have Agents of SHIELD they would have done so in TWS. Why do you say that? I also though Coulson was the likeable straight man in the middle of superhumans and gods. Turning him into a HYDRA follower would have burned a lot of the character development for a cheap stunt. Besides the brought back his character for the television show. He would still be dead otherwise by the time of Winter Soldier. Besides it's likely Ward is just playing bad to root out a Hydra cell. I doubt the network is going to turn the pretty boy actor into a villain without establishing a replacement.
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StumblyWumbly posted:This rules, Scalped rules. Scalped is one of the bleakest books I have ever read. I love it, but I have doubts over how it would translate to TV.
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Soonmot posted:Scalped is one of the bleakest books I have ever read. I love it, but I have doubts over how it would translate to TV. I also worry about the casting. If they gently caress it up it could be a huge PR disaster.
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Trast posted:Why do you say that? I also though Coulson was the likeable straight man in the middle of superhumans and gods. Turning him into a HYDRA follower would have burned a lot of the character development for a cheap stunt. Besides the brought back his character for the television show. He would still be dead otherwise by the time of Winter Soldier. They have established a replacement, his name is Triplett. If you're worried that whitebread housewives won't be able to ogle him anymore because now he's a dark rogue, like Spike the vampire, you've got another thing coming.
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Soonmot posted:Scalped is one of the bleakest books I have ever read. I love it, but I have doubts over how it would translate to TV. It definitely has a ton of pitfalls it needs to avoid, but if nothing else I'm glad Scalped gets a bit more exposure and Aaron gets a bit of a payday.
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Apr 15, 2014 05:56
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bobkatt013 posted:I also worry about the casting. If they gently caress it up it could be a huge PR disaster. Oh god, I can just see generic white guy actor cast as Dash.
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boom boom boom posted:It's not like many people read for pleasure in the past either. There was a very narrow band of time after literacy became widespread, but before A: television got good and B: internet porn. 300 years isn't that short of a time. Also, reading was for porn too of course (and still is, else the neckbiter romance novels wouldn't be so popular). But being pissed about spoilers for a 15 year old book series is a bit silly for sure.
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I can definitely see being pissed that you're told what happens on the very episode you're about to watch. That's completely sensible. Being mad about broader strokes is less so, but also understandable. TV and novels are a completely different medium, there's nothing wrong with wanting to experience one over the other without being told how it all ends. Especially in a story based around intrigue and twists rather than good guys vs bad guys.
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Decius posted:300 years isn't that short of a time. Also, reading was for porn too of course (and still is, else the neckbiter romance novels wouldn't be so popular). But being pissed about spoilers for a 15 year old book series is a bit silly for sure. There's also a difference between getting spoiled accidentally and someone intentionally spoiling something to gently caress with you, which does actually happen. I certainly wouldn't hold it against them if my friends started discussing a movie or book I hadn't finished yet while I happened to be around. Or if I went into a thread for something I hadn't watched yet and got spoiled, I'd have only myself to blame. Or even if someone was discussing an unrelated story to make a comparison or whatever, ya still can't blame them really. But in all of those cases, I still would have rather if I didn't find out about it. (depending on the movie, of course) If you're telling me it wouldn't bother you if someone came up to you and told you the ending as soon as you started watching a movie or reading a book, then that's cool I guess but most people aren't like that, with good reason. Many stories are intentionally built so that the intrigue and twists are a source of excitement, suspense and engagement, and foreknowledge removes (or at least reduces) those elements.
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Decius posted:300 years isn't that short of a time. Also, reading was for porn too of course (and still is, else the neckbiter romance novels wouldn't be so popular). But being pissed about spoilers for a 15 year old book series is a bit silly for sure. For plenty of people it's their first exposure to the material; more people saw the most recent death in GoT than read that chapter of the book. It's also not that people are coming across the spoilers accidentally, but rather the equivalent of someone standing in line for Captain America 2 yelling "BUCKY BARNES IS THE WINTER SOLDIER" over and over and then faking innocence when someone tells them to shut up. E: Spoilers aren't a new thing either; Hitchcock and Christie both tried to make sure people didn't know the endings to some of their famous works, and (more broadly) every serial and cliffhanger works on the basic idea of making people wonder what will happen next.
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Decius posted:300 years isn't that short of a time. Also, reading was for porn too of course (and still is, else the neckbiter romance novels wouldn't be so popular). But being pissed about spoilers for a 15 year old book series is a bit silly for sure. It really isn't silly at all because most people would never have had any reason to ever read a given book regardless of how old it is unless it was part of some weird national mandate which has probably never existed. Books have, for the past near century, never had a bigger audience than movies and TV. Books are totally cool but modern book readers really over play how many people actually give a poo poo about books. Again, you can read tons of books and have never really gotten around to reading one of the many popular ones. I know people who just started reading GoT because of the show and they have read many times more books than me. If I were reading it for the first time I would be pissed if people who read it already were acting like everyone on Earth had read it already. It isn't public domain. It isn't required reading for children. It hasn't been a part of pop culture for more than 3 years. LOTR is in a similar boat. The vast majority of people didn't know poo poo about LOTR until 1999. And it really is the same for most movies and TV shows. I know a bunch of people who have never seen LOST and have no idea about anything on that show.
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Wasn't someone working on a DMZ pilot? Or didn't a company want DMZ for a show? It's been a while since I've heard anything.
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XboxPants posted:They have established a replacement, his name is Triplett. If you're worried that whitebread housewives won't be able to ogle him anymore because now he's a dark rogue, like Spike the vampire, you've got another thing coming. Triplett would work, yeah. It would give some more diversity to the main cast. It would also move the "required" team romance off Sky who's already some sort of alien mystery object and onto Simmons and him since they've already hinted at some chemistry there. The thing that makes me not buy into Ward's changing sides not being permanent is that he didn't do anything to stop Sky from blowing up the command mcguffin in the Hub which turned the tide in the good guys hands. Deciding to switch teams after the bulk of HYDRA has been beaten seems like a poor decision to make. Then again this is Ward. 
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Kingtheninja posted:Wasn't someone working on a DMZ pilot? Or didn't a company want DMZ for a show? It's been a while since I've heard anything. Syfy and it really hasn't been long enough to worry.
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Trast posted:Triplett would work, yeah. It would give some more diversity to the main cast. It would also move the "required" team romance off Sky who's already some sort of alien mystery object and onto Simmons and him since they've already hinted at some chemistry there. Well in exchange he got Hydra all the Bus's weapons and R&D intelligence which Shield at large didn't have, and a first class ticket and keys to bad guy prison.
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Wards order could be "Do everything they expect you to do, no matter what it is. You must never let then have a moment of suspicion that you are an Agent of Hydra to the lackies of Shield."
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bobkatt013 posted:I also worry about the casting. If they gently caress it up it could be a huge PR disaster. There is no way in hell any network can greenlight a series where 90% of the cast is Native American. drat shame, because Scalped perfectly fits the template of a modern crime show with its constant stream of cliffhangers and revelations. And even if the casting would somehow be alright, you just know that the fans would only care about "super-badasses" Nitz and Diesel. fatherboxx fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 21:13
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Any info on who those characters were at STAR Labs with all the name drops on tonight's Arrow?
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Klungar posted:Any info on who those characters were at STAR Labs with all the name drops on tonight's Arrow? Supporting cast on the Flash show. The girl is based on Killer Frost, the guy is Vibe. Iris is the love interest.
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Aphrodite posted:Supporting cast on the Flash show. Gotcha, thanks. What about Wells and Dr. Light? Megaman?
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Klungar posted:Gotcha, thanks. What about Wells and Dr. Light? Megaman? Wells is another character on the show. He's the guy in charge of the particle accelerator project (and therefore creating The Flash.) Dr. Light probably won't be in the show. He's a terrible character. He was a Justice League villain, then got demoted to kind of a joke villain. Years later they retconned that as his having been magically lobotomized for being a serial rapist. Using him will just make people think of that whole mess so he's probably sticking to a name drop.
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fatherboxx posted:There is no way in hell any network can greenlight a series where 90% of the cast is Native American. drat shame, because Scalped perfectly fits the template of a modern crime show with its constant stream of cliffhangers and revelations. Close enough for Hollywood, I guess. Aphrodite posted:Wells is another character on the show. He's the guy in charge of the particle accelerator project (and therefore creating The Flash.)
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There's 2. The guy is a villain, the woman is a hero. And they existed at the same time.
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fatherboxx posted:There is no way in hell any network can greenlight a series where 90% of the cast is Native American. drat shame, because Scalped perfectly fits the template of a modern crime show with its constant stream of cliffhangers and revelations. This is reaching back but didn't Northern Exposure have a fair amount of cast that was Native Amaerican?
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Don't a lot more people know of the goofy weak Dr. Light from the Teen Titans cartoon than the rapist from the comics anyways?
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Urdnot Fire posted:Don't a lot more people know of the goofy weak Dr. Light from the Teen Titans cartoon than the rapist from the comics anyways? Maybe, but you're assuming that DC cares about gaining a new market that has been raised on the cartoons instead of making horrible decisions constantly.
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Plus he was goofy on the cartoon because that's post lobotomy. Somewhere before that cartoon's timeframe, rape rape rape.
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In the cartoon Raven dragged him into some hell dimension that broke his brain. That was a pretty good show.
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I thought that's why he built Roll.
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If you seriously consider that the tv series might not use the character due to the negative connotation in the comics, you vastly overestimate how many people read and care about comics nowadays. Not saying the character will be in the show, but if he isn't, it wont because of a decade old storyline.
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