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VideoTapir posted:Which do you prefer, if you had to choose? Irrelevant, I don't get to choose. White liberals policing black culture is here to stay.
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VideoTapir posted:Which do you prefer, if you had to choose? I'd think his main choice would be white people not telling a black dude what is and isn't ok for him to say based on their views of a word?
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Apr 17, 2014 18:04
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Why is the Nevada thing now about Harry Reid selling the country to China to build a solar power plant? My mom just breathlessly explained that everything is (again) secretly about some Democrat scheme that makes no sense and seems like one of those things you only believe if the simple idea that the government may be right is toxic to you.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:06
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Tender Bender posted:Why is the Nevada thing now about Harry Reid selling the country to China to build a solar power plant? My mom just breathlessly explained that everything is (again) secretly about some Democrat scheme that makes no sense and seems like one of those things you only believe if the simple idea that the government may be right is toxic to you. It's never the crazy Right Winger's fault, it's always the Pinko slash Colored People's fault. One of my favorite restaurants is a mom & pop Vietnamese place. Old rear end Vietnamese lady and her American Son in Law. Great food, but that guy is a WND nut job. Nice as hell when he isn't ranting about Obama conspiracies. Since I didn't know the guy pre Obama I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and just assume he's a conspiracy nut, but if I know him in 20 years when the GOP finally gets back into the WH and he suddenly changes tone I'll see his true form.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:10
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Tender Bender posted:Why is the Nevada thing now about Harry Reid selling the country to China to build a solar power plant? My mom just breathlessly explained that everything is (again) secretly about some Democrat scheme that makes no sense and seems like one of those things you only believe if the simple idea that the government may be right is toxic to you. It's always everyone's fault but theirs, usually in cahoots with some scary minority.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:12
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SedanChair posted:OK, thanks for the opportunity. Can we make fun of women who champion the idea that sex is inherently evil, that attack other women for having sex, that try to legislate against and restrict sex across an entire nation of people, have spoken out against masturbation, and then are exposed for having a somewhat unusual history with sex? Maybe you're right though. Like how it was as homophobic as the Nazis basically to make fun of Ted Haggard after he spent his career making a ton of money inciting hatred against gays before being caught buying methamphetamine from a gay prostitute. I too remember the hordes of gays that converged to defend poor Mr. Haggard from criticism that was clearly nothing but homophobia.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:13
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Mineaiki posted:Can we make fun of women who champion the idea that sex is inherently evil, that attack other women for having sex, that try to legislate against and restrict sex across an entire nation of people, have spoken out against masturbation, and then are exposed for having a somewhat unusual history with sex? Yes, you just stop caring that you might be causing a tiny harm while you mock the idiot actively working against women.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:14
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Mineaiki posted:Can we make fun of women who champion the idea that sex is inherently evil, that attack other women for having sex, that try to legislate against and restrict sex across an entire nation of people, have spoken out against masturbation, and then are exposed for having a somewhat unusual history with sex? Yeah, O'Donnell, and any other Republican who has hosed up views on sexuality that they try to codify in law, absolutely deserve to get mocked for being weirdos about sex. It is pretty lovely, however, that the one Republican rear end in a top hat that gets called to task on their somewha- embarrassing sexual habits is a woman, given that the preponderance of sexual hypocrite GOP candidates are men.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:16
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Mineaiki posted:Can we make fun of women who champion the idea that sex is inherently evil, that attack other women for having sex, that try to legislate against and restrict sex across an entire nation of people, have spoken out against masturbation, and then are exposed for having a somewhat unusual history with sex? How is "not putting out for some bro" a "somewhat unusual history with sex"?
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Apr 17, 2014 18:16
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Tender Bender posted:Why is the Nevada thing now about Harry Reid selling the country to China to build a solar power plant? My mom just breathlessly explained that everything is (again) secretly about some Democrat scheme that makes no sense and seems like one of those things you only believe if the simple idea that the government may be right is toxic to you. Harry Reid's son may or may not have helped with creating a solar energy farm which is necessarily going to involve the Chinese since they make most of the drat panels. Also the site his son helped with is either tens or hundreds of miles away from the deadbeat rancher depending on which loon is writing about it.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:20
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Mineaiki posted:Can we make fun of women who champion the idea that sex is inherently evil, that attack other women for having sex, that try to legislate against and restrict sex across an entire nation of people, have spoken out against masturbation, and then are exposed for having a somewhat unusual history with sex? You realize the story was 'she didn't wanna gently caress some dude', right?
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Apr 17, 2014 18:22
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When/if the right wakes up to the fact that solar power isn't the devil (right around the time the last drop of gasoline is distilled from the last piece of shale) they're going to find some way to blame the left for handing the industry over to the Chinese. I had a roommate who is a salesman for a Chinese solar panel company (in China). We talked about this and he had a big poo poo-eating grin on his face the whole time. Them drat dirty hippie Chinese. SedanChair posted:Irrelevant, I don't get to choose. White liberals policing black culture is here to stay. Yeah, and if you somehow got rid of it it'd probably go back the way it was. It's all or nothing, dude. VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Apr 17, 2014 18:27
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SedanChair posted:How is "not putting out for some bro" a "somewhat unusual history with sex"? Tatum Girlparts posted:You realize the story was 'she didn't wanna gently caress some dude', right? Yeah actually I just realized my memory is pretty bad with that. I won't edit my post, to preserve context, but I was wrong. I don't think women should be attacked for their sexual preferences of any kind. I do think it's kind of natural though for sex to come up when we're talking about people who spend every waking moment thinking about sex. Still, it shouldn't be all shame tactics when the problem is their poisonous beliefs. Also how did racism ever get into this?
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Apr 17, 2014 18:28
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Mineaiki posted:Yeah actually I just realized my memory is pretty bad with that. I won't edit my post, to preserve context, but I was wrong. Because Sedan said using that kind of logic was like saying calling West a friend of the family was ok because he's such a toxic piece of poo poo, and then someone tried to tell him that literally no context ever made saying the word friend of the family ok, including using it as an example of a bad thing.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:38
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Notorious QIG posted:As a Delawarean, I an so, so sorry for inflicting Christine O'Donnell on the world. We're doing everything in our power to not embarrass ourselves that badly again. You could come move to Texas. I can guarantee you that within a week of moving here (and therefore becoming an honorary Texan) that Christine O'Donnell won't even register on your list of "embarrassing things my state has produced". But, hey, at least the food's good and gas is down here.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:41
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I'm having a debate with someone who was complaining that progressives are responsible for NSA's spying, drones etc. When I pointed out the obvious flaws with this, he countered that he means the progressive "movement" has nothing to do with political parties and that progressives exist in both parties. I asked him for clarification on what his definition of progressives are, but haven't gotten a response. Is this some "all GOP is RINOs" craziness, or just some strange new right-wing spin? Has anyone ran into this viewpoint before?
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Apr 17, 2014 18:43
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Bait and Swatch posted:I'm having a debate with someone who was complaining that progressives are responsible for NSA's spying, drones etc. I've seen crazy comments on other forums and news comments saying that "Bush was a progressive" and in the leadup to 2010 some nutter was saying "We are Taxed Enough Already and our main priority is to kick these progressive Republicans and progressive Democrats out of office." Progressives are like some sort of omnipresent enemy to them.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:45
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Alkydere posted:You could come move to Texas. I can guarantee you that within a week of moving here (and therefore becoming an honorary Texan) that Christine O'Donnell won't even register on your list of "embarrassing things my state has produced". Oh God there was that guy not long ago running for some office who actually used the word "Wetback" to describe Hispanics, and when they called him on it his reply was basically "Well I mean that's just we say, me and my other rancher neighbors. Not a racial thing, you know, just how we talk around my home." It's totally cool to be racist, because folks and family and local culture and VALUES and stuff. You know.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:48
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Bait and Swatch posted:I'm having a debate with someone who was complaining that progressives are responsible for NSA's spying, drones etc. From what I've seen it's not so much a product of consistent new messaging as a byproduct of cognitive dissonance. Real Conservatives are Good People and Liberal Progressives are Bad People, and Bad Things are the fault of Bad People, not Good People. So any Republican who does a Bad Thing isn't a true Scotsman; instead they're a crypto-liberal, RINO, "progressive," whatever.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:50
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I guess if you are so far gone you believe in 0% income tax, the dissolution of the Federal Government, and absolutely no regulations about anything the current GOP is probably pretty progressive on those issues.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:52
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Mineaiki posted:Oh God there was that guy not long ago running for some office who actually used the word "Wetback" to describe Hispanics, and when they called him on it his reply was basically "Well I mean that's just we say, me and my other rancher neighbors. Not a racial thing, you know, just how we talk around my home." It's totally cool to be racist, because folks and family and local culture and VALUES and stuff. You know. Actually that was my current Representative Don Young (R-AK), the really sad part is he's going to have to die before he gets replaced; and even then it might take a few cycles.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:55
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Bait and Swatch posted:I asked him for clarification on what his definition of progressives are, but haven't gotten a response. Certain demented libertarian types have weird definitions. Your opponent is probably similar to the famous Radium meltdown in D&D back in olden tymes. I don't want to copy/paste the multiple pages of him ranting, but his view puts "progressive" as separate from left/right, in that you can be a right-wing progressive (Bush?) because of your views on political correctness and intangible social pressures/standards. Here's a taste: Radium posted:Having purple skin is not a choice. Putting your penis in another man is a choice. Choices have consequences; choose accordingly. sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Apr 17, 2014 18:56
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Thanks to glenn beck, morons say "progressive" because their ability to comprehend authoritarianism has been stolen from them.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:57
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Haha holy poo poo Radium was the goddamn worst.
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Apr 17, 2014 19:00
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The best part is he posted that stuff logged in as (admin) SA Support Robot, which was initially pretty baffling. As far as I know, it was used solely for announcements and updates and forums crashes, before its circuits fried and libertarian self-awareness began.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I've seen crazy comments on other forums and news comments saying that "Bush was a progressive" and in the leadup to 2010 some nutter was saying "We are Taxed Enough Already and our main priority is to kick these progressive Republicans and progressive Democrats out of office." Your last statement is truer than you might think. These are people who believe right-wing government enclaves like the FBI and BLM are hives of progressiveness and villainy. They do really, earnestly believe that all progressives are merely disciples of Feinstein, wanting nothing other than to bring a strict authoritarian state into being in which we can oppress those poor, beleaguered conservatives. You can't be a reactionary without fear, anger, and paranoia (i.e., something to react to), and all of those things are more easily bolstered if you have a consistent, omnipresent threat like progressives, Catholics, Jesuits, Masons, etc. It doesn't matter if they have (and have always had) iron-fisted control of this country, conservatives will forever be victimized or on the verge of being victimized because that attitude is foundational to conservative politics. They can have whatever policy or principles or beliefs they want. What they desire for a system of government is irrelevant. You cannot have conservative politics without the Paranoid Style. I'm sure this has been posted in DnD many times before because it's rather famous, but it deserves to be reposted everywhere. It's short and interesting and well-written: http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/ The Paranoid Style was written in 1964, mind you. See how much Tea Party/Freeper/Glenn Beck/Alex Jones you can find in his examples. This is never going to go away. The wicked conspiracy that will bring America to its knees only changes; it never leaves.
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:Walter, honest question, what is your opinion of the reclamation of slurs? And how do you feel about the word queer? I think it's part of human culture, and a natural response of those who are oppressed. It's a means of resistance, andof trying to rob the slur of some of its power. I also think it's drat near impossible to tell in an anonymous online setting whether your user is someone appropriating (the phenomenon is called "appropriation") the term, or someone using it hurtfully.
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Apr 17, 2014 19:16
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SedanChair posted:Irrelevant, I don't get to choose. White liberals policing black culture is here to stay. Also, pardon me for not keeping your username in my "list of black goons" that I didn't know I was required to maintain. I don't use the word myself, and I have no reason to assume someone is or is not black based on the posts I've seen here. Use whatever words you want to use, but recognize that you're not in a setting where it's terribly easy to tell the difference between a black man using that term ironically, and a white man using it when he has no business doing so. So don't be surprised when someone takes offense, because it's an offensive loving word, even to a white liberal who apparently is a closest loving racist in your view.
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sweart gliwere posted:The best part is he posted that stuff logged in as (admin) SA Support Robot, which was initially pretty baffling. As far as I know, it was used solely for announcements and updates and forums crashes, before its circuits fried and libertarian self-awareness began. I think I would've died laughing if I started reading multi-page libertarian nonsense being spouted by the Support Robot.
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Debate Disco > Dittoheads, Great Americans, and Whitesplaining - Right Wing Media
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Walter posted:Also, pardon me for not keeping your username in my "list of black goons" that I didn't know I was required to maintain. I don't use the word myself, and I have no reason to assume someone is or is not black based on the posts I've seen here. I pardon you for embarrassing yourself. But you already criticized Chris Rock and Chappelle--did they not make it onto your list either?
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Walter posted:Also, pardon me for not keeping your username in my "list of black goons" that I didn't know I was required to maintain. I don't use the word myself, and I have no reason to assume someone is or is not black based on the posts I've seen here. Regardless of race he was literally saying friend of the family as an example of a horrible thing to call a black man, I don't know how you possibly wanted him to phrase it to cushion your feelings better. Like, if you say 'a slur for a black person' or 'the n-word' we all know you mean friend of the family, what's the benefit to making everyone think it vs just saying it in that context?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:From what I've seen it's not so much a product of consistent new messaging as a byproduct of cognitive dissonance. Real Conservatives are Good People and Liberal Progressives are Bad People, and Bad Things are the fault of Bad People, not Good People. So any Republican who does a Bad Thing isn't a true Scotsman; instead they're a crypto-liberal, RINO, "progressive," whatever.
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I'm really starting to come around on this fascism thing. Everyone would literally win. On the liberal side, they could finally push their fascist taxes in the wealthy and force American children to learn totalitarian new math. On the conservative side, they finally get to be the oppressed minority they've been begging to be from a rhetorical perspective. It'd be great.
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Walter posted:Also, pardon me for not keeping your username in my "list of black goons" that I didn't know I was required to maintain. I don't use the word myself, and I have no reason to assume someone is or is not black based on the posts I've seen here. You whiny white fucker lol.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:You whiny white fucker lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2NpY8Q470c
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FMguru posted:Atheists are bad, muslims are bad, therefore atheists and muslims are pretty much the same thing. QED. So it's not that much of a stretch for them to believe that atheist = Muslim, because they're both just people rejecting Jesus despite knowing that he's the Savior. The flavor of their rejection is just window dressing cooked up by Satan.
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Please, someone post something dumb the right did. We've gotten to the point where the line between sarcastic posting and real life are blurred. I don't know what is happening.
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Some rear end in a top hat filling in for Hannity had the guys behind the Frack Nation "documentary" and they are talking about their new movie about Kermit Gosnell. Apparently Kickstarter is partisan now because they wouldn't allow them to use the phrase "baby murderer" in the project summary. Presumably because they are liberals and love murdering babies and not because it's tasteless as gently caress. Also did you know nobody knows who Kermit Cornell is because of the mainstream media refusing to report on his trial because liberals? It couldn't possibly be because there is zero controversy over the case and he is unequivocally a horrific monster and nobody would defend what he did and so there's nothing to report beyond "this poo poo is horrific." No, it's because abortion and liberals and what Gosnell did is totally equivalent to legal abortion and he's totally not in jail for life at the moment. It's so goddamn dumb.
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Tender Bender posted:Why is the Nevada thing now about Harry Reid selling the country to China to build a solar power plant? My mom just breathlessly explained that everything is (again) secretly about some Democrat scheme that makes no sense and seems like one of those things you only believe if the simple idea that the government may be right is toxic to you. I don't know about the China connection but here's a blog post by Dana Loesch that claims Reid is doing it to help out his donors. quote:A tortoise isn’t the reason why BLM is harassing a 67 year-old rancher. They want his land. The tortoise wasn’t of concern when Harry Reid worked BLM to literally change the boundaries of the tortoise’s habitat to accommodate the development of his top donor, Harvey Whittemore. Whittemore was convicted of illegal campaign contributions to Senator Reid. Reid’s former senior adviser is now the head of BLM. Reid is accused of using the new BLM chief as a puppet to control Nevada land (already over 84% of which is owned by the federal government) and pay back special interests. BLM has proven that they’ve a situational concern for the desert tortoise as they’ve had no problem waiving their rules concerning wind or solar power development. Clearly these developments have vastly affected a tortoise habitat more than a century-old, quasi-homesteading grazing area. If only Clive Bundy were a big Reid donor. This is from April 11 so right wing media has been playing this angle for a while.
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