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Most metaphors break down if you follow them through to details and elaborations. If you use a metaphor in your comic, try not to depict it already past that point.
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Kurtofan posted:This makes no sense. Don't forget that the cheese itself is the ICE, which implies that the rats are coming out from our government agencies (???).
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You know, my experience with the VA has been from the bureaucracy side, as my mom is a GS14 Claims Review officer, and my father is a GS5(6?) claims filing person (He didn't want responsibility anymore, as he is only 2 years away from retirement.) Both my parents are retired military, both with disability claims. Both of my parents claims back in the mid-90's (Bush Sr) were handled quickly and within a few months. My dad had to make a single follow up call after not hearing from the VA for a week, but after he called them they moved his claim pretty quickly. Is the VA underfunded? YES. Is it full of lazy loafers who just want to sit there and retire? Tell my mom that as she punches you in the face after working 12 hours for the 6th day in a row.  Could the VA be better? Absolutely. Is the "Oh god veterans DIED" cartoon being stupid? gently caress yes it is. Veterans can be really whiny stupid fucks who don't want to do anything at all to help their claim. - They file ONE file telling the VA that they have a claim about ${PROBLEM}. - The VA gives them some paperwork to fill out 1 - 4 weeks (usually). - Veteran sits on it/doesn't do poo poo/doesn't call the VA. - VA doesn't do anything because they didn't hear anything back. - Veteran dies because he didn't do anything. Is that every case? No; but apparently that's common enough that they have people now assigned to call Veterans back if the VA doesn't hear back from them after a certain amount of time.  Is every Veteran to blame for being on a extended wait list? Absolutely not; but I bet you a fair number of them are. Also most of them aren't old, their in their mid 30's. I hate when every veteran in every political cartoon is 90, short, and white.
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Super Saiyan Mr. T posted:Hats are soooooo 2011, it's all about Stranges now. Stranges are 2013, it's all about the killstreaks now. Which still applies to the catholic church.
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ratbert90 posted:Haha gently caress you! Do these idiots know just how incredibly difficult it is to deal with some of these veterans who refuse, REFUSE to turn in required simple to fill out paper work? Or to go to the VA provided doctor for the required examination? Yeah, I helped process claims for the VA a couple of years ago and dealt with the "tough cases", or vets that thought the VA was trying to plant microchips in them. A lot of dudes just don't want help, although I was able to convince a few of them to go in and get their annual checkup. After seeing some of their psych cases, I could understand why they were paranoid and was amazed they were able to function in society at all, even if what they were scared of wasn't actually going to happen. edit Mordiceius posted:I got out of the military in May last year. I immediately filed my disability claim. From there, it took 9 months for them to schedule me a medical appointment. Two months after that, my claim was finally processed. This is actually pretty quick. I think it took me under a year for my claim, but that was back in '07. It got way worse after the agent orange case. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 20:50 on May 15, 2014 |
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May 15, 2014 20:48
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Mordiceius posted:While in the Air Force, my jobs tended to work with federal employees more than most military career fields. I could tell you stories for days about federal employee trouble. This is a problem with any large organization, though. In the corporate world the process of firing someone can involve a whole series of meetings with attorneys and HR reps.
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And if we want to move beyond anecdotes about the VA wait list scandal, here is a breakdown: http://www.vox.com/2014/5/14/5714574/what-the-hell-is-happening-at-the-va
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zoux posted:So, and I legit don't know, how much of this VA stuff is willful abuse and how much of it is spending cuts? Perhaps it's because I live near one of the largest VA hospitals in the country, but I've had really good experiences there for the past decade or so. I can usually get an appointment within a month or two and other than the crazy parking situation, everyone there is as helpful as can be expected. And I feel for everyone that works in a VA hospital, talk about debilitating. There are so many angry and hateful vets hanging around there all day complaining about whatever comes to mind that it wears me out and I'm usually there less than eight hours. I can't imagine being there forty hours a week. Discendo Vox posted:Speaking as a lawgoon, I suspect that a large element of the "impossibility" of firing a federal employee is a social fiction built on the stereotype of the difficulty of firing employees. The process of showing cause might be onerous, but frequently the costs of delaying the process are clearly worse than the costs of the process itself. When I interacted with folks struggling with the troublesome VA employee I mentioned above, what I routinely encountered was that people didn't actually know what the dismissal process entailed, just that it was hard and they didn't want to bother doing it. This was accurate when I was in the Army a while ago. We were trying to chapter out this private that didn't want to be there and was completely worthless and most of the NCO's were just throwing their hands up all "but it's impossible!" about it and after talking to the personnel people at division were started doing the necessary counseling and paperwork and he was gone in a few months. Nonprofits are often the same way. It seems impossible to fire anyone, but that's usually because no one knows how and the rest don't want to deal with the paperwork or are scared to confront the person. edit gently caress off, Bill. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 21:06 on May 15, 2014 |
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Kakairo posted:Did they treat his heart problem with LSD? Peyote.
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Our long national nightmare is over. Derf is ending his comic strip.
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Sir Tonk posted:It seems impossible to fire anyone, but that's usually because no one knows how and the rest don't want to deal with the paperwork or are scared to confront the person. Now this is my uninformed opinion, but doesn't firing a higher-level employee reflect badly on pretty much the whole organisation? Like, firing a low-level employee is a known risk, but as soon as that promotion goes through, that employee is linked into pretty much the whole company. As soon as that employee demonstrates incompetence, whoever promoted them must have been incompetent, and therefore whoever promoted THEM must have been etc. etc., because of that whole notion that incompetence comes from incompetents rather than from someone who has been promoted beyond their competence. Do I have any idea what I'm talking about, officegoons?
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ratbert90 posted:You know, my experience with the VA has been from the bureaucracy side, as my mom is a GS14 Claims Review officer, and my father is a GS5(6?) claims filing person (He didn't want responsibility anymore, as he is only 2 years away from retirement.) Is your mother being investigated as part of the VA scandal? You seem to be personally invested in pushing the blame on the soldiers.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Our long national nightmare is over. Derf is ending his comic strip. The City was largely forgettable and most of the time i just scrolled past it. In this thread, that actually makes you one of the better cartoonists.
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Somfin posted:Now this is my uninformed opinion, but doesn't firing a higher-level employee reflect badly on pretty much the whole organisation? Like, firing a low-level employee is a known risk, but as soon as that promotion goes through, that employee is linked into pretty much the whole company. As soon as that employee demonstrates incompetence, whoever promoted them must have been incompetent, and therefore whoever promoted THEM must have been etc. etc., because of that whole notion that incompetence comes from incompetents rather than from someone who has been promoted beyond their competence. Do I have any idea what I'm talking about, officegoons? Sure, for higher level positions that can be true. It can also be the case that the upper level manager that is loving up is quicker to lose his job because he is out in the open and his behavior reflects poorly on the rest of the organization. Meanwhile, the low level supervisor sticks around because he/she doesn't have a direct effect on anyone beyond the five personnel he/she in in charge of. Every place is different, but my almost twenty years working for federal, local, and nonprofits has been quite consistent in the firing people realm. The only quick way to get canned is to piss off the head of the organization directly, from what I've seen, and yeah people go to great lengths to cover their asses. BetterToRuleInHell posted:Is your mother being investigated as part of the VA scandal? You seem to be personally invested in pushing the blame on the soldiers. It's a shared blame thing, in a lot of ways. The stories of vets not sending back required paperwork is extremely common and the VA is supposed to make a few calls trying to reach them after a specific time, I get a few this week after my new glasses came in and that's not even that important. If the VA personnel were not following up with them as required by whatever SOP they fall under, then that would be their fault, but personal responsibility does play a role. You have to actually go to a VA facility for treatment, they don't just send a personal doctor to every single vet, and if you refuse to answer any mail or phone calls, blaming the bureaucracy isn't going to solve anything. As much as the GOP seems to want to believe it, the feds aren't physically forcing people to go see doctors. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 22:00 on May 15, 2014 |
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Does anyone else do a funny faux-medieval voice aloud to themselves when they read Ye Fowl Herald, or just me?
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Lycus posted:Does anyone else do a funny faux-medieval voice aloud to themselves when they read Ye Fowl Herald, or just me? I thought everyone did that.
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 1If Global Warming why seasons? Nevermind that in California we barely had anything resembling a winter.  2 3
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Ammat The Ankh posted:
So we've progressed beyond the stupidity of "If Global Warming why Snow?" skipped straight over "If Global Warming why Weather?" to the SSJ3 of stupid arguments. I think this is the most willfully dense cartoon ever made so that's something.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:
"H Payne is slightly smarter than a chimpanzee and other evidence of evolution. - an idiot" also, "M Obama" 
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So  hasn't posted any new cartoons, and I personally thank him for that. And I dunno if this is a thrilling new development or not, but his site apparently has porn ads now so it's more  than before!Oh, but he is posting new blog entries every so often. Let's see what the newest one is...
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Reminder that on Monday an Antarctic glacier broke loose and started crumbling into the sea, meaning we are no longer looking at 1-3 feet if sea rise, but 4-10. And 10 is seen as probable. As a fast example, the now certain level of rise would necessitate moving 99.5% of the population of Louisiana because the population clusters would be under water. Wait nope, if spring lol al gore.
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Fried Chicken posted:Reminder that on Monday an Antarctic glacier broke loose and started crumbling into the sea, meaning we are no longer looking at 1-3 feet if sea rise, but 4-10. And 10 is seen as probable. Well, not from that one glacier, but the West Antarctic glacier sheet which is expected to fall sooner than previously thought.
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"The South will be destroyed" is probably one of the least compelling arguments for trying to stop global warming.
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Hey everyone! It's time for our favorite game... IS... IT... RACIST!!??
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Lemming posted:"The South will be destroyed" is probably one of the least compelling arguments for trying to stop global warming. It'll mostly be poor, minority cities like New Orleans and Miami though. Maybe that's why Republicans don't give a poo poo
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Say what you will but I'm just happy someone out there has the balls to take those uppity fetuses down a peg. I want Chelsea to announce she's getting an abortion just to see all the heads pop.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:Well, not from that one glacier, but the West Antarctic glacier sheet which is expected to fall sooner than previously thought. Well previously they thought the sheet would remain even with higher temperatures, which is why climatologists are freaking out
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Lemming posted:"The South will be destroyed" is probably one of the least compelling arguments for trying to stop global warming. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9nEf2nuH_Xc
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vyelkin posted:Why is Barack Obama delivering Michelle's speech? He's not delivering any speech, there isn't a teleprompter to be seen.
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This is Barack Mobama.
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Shugojin posted:Ouroborbutts. Surely it's an ouroborass.
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Internet Webguy posted:
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Rorus Raz posted:So Is there more to the blog post or is it just that?
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visceril posted:Hey everyone! It's time for our favorite game... No it isn't, not at all. You need to take a deep breath and go outside. #canthandle
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Sandpuppy posted:Might be just my experience, but I've seen several examples of the same in the private sector as well. I think it's as much an office-culture thing as anything else. They have no problem pulling the trigger on lower level employees for minor infractions, while office personnel having major problems just get moved elsewhere (often to departments where their shortcomings are an even larger risk to the company). Its called the Peter Principle. It was the default setting for most of the 60's, 70's, 80's and most of the 90's, until we had the Dilbert Principle, where rich well connected morons are given all the good high level jobs, the non-rich morons are moved to middle management where they can do the least harm, and no-one is ever promoted based on competence.
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Lemming posted:"The South will be destroyed" is probably one of the least compelling arguments for trying to stop global warming. Might be time to finally leave Texas.
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Sir Tonk posted:Might be time to finally leave Texas. It's always a good time to leave Texas. I almost ended up there and every day I thank the great lord Satan that I didn't. The place I interned and almost got a job at had bible study at lunch. Bible study at lunch at work.
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