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Is there some sort of line graph where I can chart teams and their various takeovers and mergers? loving remembering who super aguri turned into and when is a ball ache. I only mention it as I saw a minardi f1 truck today in rural wiltshire and me and my f1 watching buddy couldn't remember who they became.
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May 17, 2014 00:07
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Super Aguri didn't turn into anything. All their assets got sold off.
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May 17, 2014 00:14
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thegasman2000 posted:Is there some sort of line graph where I can chart teams and their various takeovers and mergers? loving remembering who super aguri turned into and when is a ball ache. I only mention it as I saw a minardi f1 truck today in rural wiltshire and me and my f1 watching buddy couldn't remember who they became. That graph has one red line at the top, never changing. Scuderia Ferrari
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May 17, 2014 00:53
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thegasman2000 posted:Is there some sort of line graph where I can chart teams and their various takeovers and mergers? loving remembering who super aguri turned into and when is a ball ache. I only mention it as I saw a minardi f1 truck today in rural wiltshire and me and my f1 watching buddy couldn't remember who they became. Of the modern teams: Ferrari have always been Ferrari since the start of the world championship in 1950, though they spent two years in the 1950s entering a Lancia chassis. McLaren have mostly always been McLaren too, but the team founded by Bruce McLaren in 1963 (though not racing in F1 until '66) and run by Teddy Mayer after McLaren's death merged with Ron Dennis's Project Four Racing in 1981 (at the behest of sponsors Phllip Morris/Marlboro), which produced the modern McLaren team. Mercedes was, arguably, originally Matra, entering Formula One in 1968 with Ken Tyrrell as principal. They definitely used the Tyrrell entry - Ken Tyrrell's organisation became a constructor in late 1970, having used Matra and March cars before then. Tyrrell folded in 1998, selling his entry (but nothing else) to British American Racing. BAR became Honda in 2006, Brawn in 2009 and Mercedes in 2010. Williams is Frank Williams' second attempt at an F1 team; the first Williams team was founded in 1969, became Wolf in 1976 and folded in 1979; this Williams was founded in 1977 and has been Williams ever since. Lotus have to some extent branded themselves as "Team Enstone", but that's also a misnomer since when Toleman started racing in F1 in 1981, they were based out of Witney. The team became Benetton in 1986, moved to Enstone in 1992, and then became Renault in 2002 before being sold to Genii Capital and becoming part of the general Lotus clusterfuck from 2011 onwards. Toro Rosso are the next oldest team, entering F1 in 1985 as Minardi. While Giancarlo Minardi sold the team to Paul Stoddart in 2001, it raced as Minardi until being bought by Red Bull in 2006 Force India was originally Jordan, joining F1 in 1991 and racing until 2005, becoming Midland and Spyker for one season each, and then Force India from 2008. Sauber entered F1 in 1993, and has been Sauber ever since except for the years between 2006 and 2010 when it was BMW Sauber (in 2010, BMW Sauber Ferrari, when it had been sold back to Peter Sauber but not renamed for financial reasons). Red Bull first entered F1 as Stewart in 1996, becoming Jaguar in 1999 and then Red Bull in 2005. Marussia were originally Virgin Racing, joining F1 in 2010 in the three-team expansion of that year and becoming Marussia a year later. Caterham were Lotus Racing in 2010, and Team Lotus in 2011 before Tony Fernandes bought Caterham and renamed his F1 team to something less confusing.
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May 17, 2014 00:57
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Btw are Toro Rosso still based in Italy or have they moved elsewhere?
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May 17, 2014 01:50
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I'm pretty sure they're still in Faenza but might have moved to bigger facilities.
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May 17, 2014 02:05
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This an awesome post, thanks man. I love reading about formula 1 history, I was wondering if people had any good book suggestions?
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May 17, 2014 02:28
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That fat gently caress who went off to Lotus is apparently back at Ferrari. 2nd guy from Alonso's left. Also look at hte size of that guy's head in the back holy gently caress
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May 17, 2014 02:37
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Fat goatee guy is going to bring back the WDC/WCC to Maranello.
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May 17, 2014 02:42
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Pretty sure Michael won more than 1 race at Ferrari.
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May 17, 2014 02:46
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gret posted:Pretty sure Michael won more than 1 race at Ferrari. The st is really small but it's there.
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May 17, 2014 02:48
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simplefish posted:And then get rid of DRS and add a Jump Jet button. If it can do a dump and burn like the old F-111, then you have won me over
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May 17, 2014 03:50
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Stewart started racing in 1997 and Jaguar took over in 2000. For a while, former Jaguar driver Eddie Irvine was the highest paid employee of the Ford Motor Company  Jaguar was such a stupid case of mis-management.Also, at the least both Sauber and Jordan have extensive histories in sports cars and lower formulae, respectively. Let's not forget that Sauber made the works Sauber-Mercedes sports cars for Le Mans and the World Endurance championship in the late '80s and very early 1990s; Jordan were a successful junior formula team in the UK through the 80s, helping bring drivers like Martin Brundle, Jean Alesi, Johnny Herbert and Eddie Irvine up into F1.
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May 17, 2014 05:39
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Even Stewart racing started in lower categories too IIRC.
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May 17, 2014 05:56
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There were quite a few F3000 teams that tried to make it in F1 in the 90s- Paul Stewart Racing and Jordan were pretty much the only ones that made it. Forti, Pacific, Onyx never really made it, First and DAMS built cars but never raced.
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May 17, 2014 06:05
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Can we get the team histories in the OP? It's something I forget and wonder about every year.
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May 17, 2014 06:37
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http://imgur.com/a/1l08D Go to the end...someone on reddit posted that...fess up. Who was it?
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May 17, 2014 06:41
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Oh poo poo. Alonso's days are numbered...
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May 17, 2014 06:58
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poo poo, I think it was the HRT that had the baffle-less fuel tank and just had a tonne of gas sloshing around their car.
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May 17, 2014 07:40
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nsaP posted:http://imgur.com/a/1l08D Is there a photography award for "Managing to cram an entire soap-opera story into 6 pictures"? Because there's your winner.
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May 17, 2014 08:46
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What ever happened to Arrows? Did they just fold like super aguri?
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May 17, 2014 09:08
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Linedance posted:What ever happened to Arrows? Did they just fold like super aguri? Yea. TWR was a pretty big empire too.
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May 17, 2014 09:29
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Marussia were granted their entry as Manor Motorsport, another F3 team but became Virgin before the season started.
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May 17, 2014 10:12
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^^ Indeed, and they're still involved, John Booth is very high up in both and the lower level teams run as Marussia Manor.Ilanin posted:Of the modern teams: Only thing I'd add is. quote:Mercedes was, arguably, originally Matra, entering Formula One in 1968 with Ken Tyrrell as principal. They definitely used the Tyrrell entry - Ken Tyrrell's organisation became a constructor in late 1970, having used Matra and March cars before then. Tyrrell folded in 1998, selling his entry (but nothing else) to British American Racing. BAR became Honda in 2006, Most of the actual stuff went to one of their sponsors, a Mr Paul Stoddart, yes that one. He used this to build what we now know as the Minardi F1x2 2 seater before he bought Minardi, in fact they were marketed as an Arrows 2 seater as he sponsored them between Tyrrell's demise and his purchase of Minardi. The Minardi F1x2 is actually based on the last Tyrrell chassis, not any of the Minardis, the give away is the very distinctive nose.  Tyrrell 026  Minardi F1x2
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May 17, 2014 10:23
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Paul Stoddart-owned Minardi was probably the most fun back-marker team. Arrows were too serious, Tyrrell kind of sad as well. Stoddart was a great character.
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May 17, 2014 10:38
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Butt Wizard posted:Yea. TWR was a pretty big empire too. Don't they sponsor Lotus these days? TWR Steel? Or am I getting them confused with another company? Also I looove all the old F1 pics. Every time I see the old wide style cars with the wide rear wings I can't help but think how much better they look compared to the longer, narrower modern gen cars. Personally, I'd like it if they went back to that style of car.
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May 17, 2014 10:51
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harperdc posted:Paul Stoddart-owned Minardi was probably the most fun back-marker team. Arrows were too serious, Tyrrell kind of sad as well. Stoddart was a great character. Stoddart was a god drat whinger who bought a Formula One team and then complained about how expensive everything was. No poo poo, you can't not put money in your team like Ferrari does and expect to compete with them.
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May 17, 2014 10:53
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It's been a long time, but I seem to remember Stoddart being the attack dog of some of the larger teams. When they weren't happy about something, they'd whisper in his ear and watch him make a scene.
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May 17, 2014 11:18
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harperdc posted:Paul Stoddart-owned Minardi was probably the most fun back-marker team. Arrows were too serious, Tyrrell kind of sad as well. Stoddart was a great character. I have a Minardi neck ticket-holder-lanyard thing from when I went to the Silverstone GP in 2005. I had money burning a hole in my pocket and wasn't sure what team to overtly support, so I went with the one with the most character. I also bought a Red Bull hat at their stand. 
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May 17, 2014 11:27
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darth cookie posted:Don't they sponsor Lotus these days? TWR Steel? Or am I getting them confused with another company? TWR or Tom Walkinshaw Racing was a racing team in sports cars, touring cars and more in the 80s and 90s. They collapsed in the early 2000s after owning first Ligier (?) and the Arrows. TW Steel is a pretty awful fashion watch company.
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May 17, 2014 11:28
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Williams might want to get a new Social Media person
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May 17, 2014 12:03
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nsaP posted:http://imgur.com/a/1l08D Hahaha this is great.
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May 17, 2014 12:28
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JingleBells posted:Williams might want to get a new Social Media person 
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May 17, 2014 12:31
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harperdc posted:Paul Stoddart-owned Minardi was probably the most fun back-marker team. Arrows were too serious, Tyrrell kind of sad as well. Stoddart was a great character.
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May 17, 2014 14:03
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Remember when Alonso was passed by Sato?
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May 17, 2014 14:18
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Cart Cam posted:Remember when Alonso was passed by Sato? is there a video of this perhaps?
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May 17, 2014 14:41
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Cart Cam posted:Remember when Alonso was passed by Sato? That never happened. And there's no video evidence anywhere so don't look for it.
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May 17, 2014 14:43
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What's a Sato and is it something edible that was thrown?
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May 17, 2014 15:00
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Cart Cam posted:Remember when Alonso was passed by Sato? That statement now replaced by: Remember when Vettel was passed by Kobiyashi in a Caterham? MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 19:02 on May 17, 2014 |
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Do you guys remember when people unironically said "Cmon guys Vettel's won four WDC's it can't ALL be the car."?
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