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Burt Buckle posted:Monster Trucks aren't a sport, they are Truck Entertainment. Do you watch that stuff? You know it's not real, right? Monster Trucks are definitely sports entertainment - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V02d91GkzM0 Tim "Eater X" Janus had an Ultimate Warrior thing going on 
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Was there a transitional period between Steiner v.1 and Big Poppa Pump or did he just show up one day completely transformed? And if the latter, does anyone have a link? I'm curious as to the kind of reaction he got.
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Del Raminos posted:Was there a transitional period between Steiner v.1 and Big Poppa Pump or did he just show up one day completely transformed? And if the latter, does anyone have a link? I'm curious as to the kind of reaction he got.
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Del Raminos posted:Was there a transitional period between Steiner v.1 and Big Poppa Pump or did he just show up one day completely transformed? And if the latter, does anyone have a link? I'm curious as to the kind of reaction he got. There was transitions. There was Scott with short hair and a goatee that turned on Rick:  Then dyed hair still wearing singlets Steiner:  And then he got the black trunks, the chain mail, and the rest is history. Efb; but I have pictures!
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The singlet version is immortalized in WCW/NWO Revenge
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Also watching the Steiners in WWE (which I guess would have been 1995 or so), Scott was loving huge even then.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Look at this guy who's never heard of monster truck star Colt Cobra.
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DeathChicken posted:Also watching the Steiners in WWE (which I guess would have been 1995 or so), Scott was loving huge even then. Both the Steiners were always huge (watch some late '80s footage of them), Scott just kind of took it to the extreme.
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Who's the worst foreign (outside of Mexico and Japan I guess) wrestler to ever come to the USA to wrestle in WWE? As a kid I LOVED Lord Regal in WCW (one of the best heels ever IMHO) and I don't really remember any guys who were spectacularly bad and also foreign. This probably has to do with the fact that only really good wrestlers from places like the UK end up in the WWE/WCW.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Who's the worst foreign (outside of Mexico and Japan I guess) wrestler to ever come to the USA to wrestle in WWE? As a kid I LOVED Lord Regal in WCW (one of the best heels ever IMHO) and I don't really remember any guys who were spectacularly bad and also foreign. This probably has to do with the fact that only really good wrestlers from places like the UK end up in the WWE/WCW. Khali? Giant Gonzales?
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:I had forgotten that Gonzo McFee was obviously not watching RAW or listening to the commentary and was so retarded he was convinced there was even the barest hint of a possibility that Vince McMahon was going to call Barack Obama a negro on the air.  They're not even pronounced the same. Neg-ro. "Neg" like that dumb thing PUAs do. Rhymes with "egg".El Estrago Bonito posted:Who's the worst foreign (outside of Mexico and Japan I guess) wrestler to ever come to the USA to wrestle in WWE? As a kid I LOVED Lord Regal in WCW (one of the best heels ever IMHO) and I don't really remember any guys who were spectacularly bad and also foreign. This probably has to do with the fact that only really good wrestlers from places like the UK end up in the WWE/WCW. Khali probably takes it. Ezekiel Jackson was also pretty terrible. I seem to remember Ludvig Borga being kind of poo poo in the ring too, but maybe not notably so.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Who's the worst foreign (outside of Mexico and Japan I guess) wrestler to ever come to the USA to wrestle in WWE? As a kid I LOVED Lord Regal in WCW (one of the best heels ever IMHO) and I don't really remember any guys who were spectacularly bad and also foreign. This probably has to do with the fact that only really good wrestlers from places like the UK end up in the WWE/WCW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbrEbWNl39E
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Khali? Giant Gonzales? gonzales is the correct answer.
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John Cena posted:gonzales is the correct answer. Yeah, wow, not even taker can make this guy look good.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Yeah, wow, not even taker can make this guy look good. Tbf Taker really wasn't known for putting on great matches at that point either, but yeah Gonzalez was wretched.
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Did Brakus ever make it to TV? I think he was in Brawl for All, but I can't remember anything else with him in between the time his vignettes aired in 1997 and the BFA tourney in 1998.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Did Brakus ever make it to TV? I think he was in Brawl for All, but I can't remember anything else with him in between the time his vignettes aired in 1997 and the BFA tourney in 1998. He was in ECW for most of that time. He made it back to WWF on the Saturday shows iirc, even got a (UK only) PPV appearance before BFA.
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Thauros posted:Tbf Taker really wasn't known for putting on great matches at that point either, but yeah Gonzalez was wretched.
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I was watching the April 1997 In Your House PPV (first show after Wrestlemania 13), and at one point Vince was talking about Ken Shamrock challenging Mike Tyson to a fight. Were they actually in the process of making a deal with Tyson back then, or was it just a shot-in-the-dark attention grab that they hoped would gain some mainstream traction?
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Surely just an attention grab. WWF outpaid WCW for Tyson, but I can't imagine they would have ever had enough money to convince him to do either a real fight against Shamrock who probably would have taken him down and submitted him in a minute, or a worked fight where he may lose.
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Bigass Moth posted:Surely just an attention grab. WWF outpaid WCW for Tyson, but I can't imagine they would have ever had enough money to convince him to do either a real fight against Shamrock who probably would have taken him down and submitted him in a minute, or a worked fight where he may lose.
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Minidust posted:I was watching the April 1997 In Your House PPV (first show after Wrestlemania 13), and at one point Vince was talking about Ken Shamrock challenging Mike Tyson to a fight. Were they actually in the process of making a deal with Tyson back then, or was it just a shot-in-the-dark attention grab that they hoped would gain some mainstream traction?
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't know if Taker gets too much credit because of the quality of his matches in his forties, or too little because he spent so long feuding with guys who were terrible. Nah, Taker was really, really bad for quite some time there. People usually (and rightly) point to the Bikertaker / Big Evil phase as being a low point in his match quality, but he was awful from about '97 - 2000, too. Granted, he was starting to have knee problems by then, but his brawlfests with Austin in 1998 and 1999 were just plain bad.
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DeathChicken posted:Also watching the Steiners in WWE (which I guess would have been 1995 or so), Scott was loving huge even then. Yea I'm watching Raw from the beginning and he was way bigger than I remembered in 1993
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Cromulent posted:Vince has always been about cross-promoting a Tyson fight. He even proposed it to Kevin Nash in 1995 (a fight in Central Park or something). I doubt he was actually negotiating anything. You mean there was a chance we could have seen Big Daddy Cool no-sell an Iron Mile punch? We live in the worst of all possible worlds.
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John Cena posted:gonzales is the correct answer. What Gonzales did can barely be called wrestling. It's like slow motion stage fighting.
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I have never liked the Undertaker and I am not ashamed to admit it  I'm not a big fan of Kane either, but I'll pretty much side with Kane on being the 'better' wrestler any day.
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dialhforhero posted:I have never liked the Undertaker and I am not ashamed to admit it This is crazy talk. Undertaker has had absolutely great matches with the right opponents, the closest Kane has ever come is "that was pretty good for Kane I guess."
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Yeah, it was a really awesome way to tell which people were just reading recaps and trying to score Oppression Olympics points for about three weeks.
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Timby posted:Nah, Taker was really, really bad for quite some time there. People usually (and rightly) point to the Bikertaker / Big Evil phase as being a low point in his match quality, but he was awful from about '97 - 2000, too. Granted, he was starting to have knee problems by then, but his brawlfests with Austin in 1998 and 1999 were just plain bad. I agree with you about the Austin series with the exception of SummerSlam 98. I love that match.
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Kane's only good matches are against Daniel Bryan and Chris Benoit. I can understand someone hating Undertaker for 2000-2003 and parts of 2004 though. His style doesn't lend itself well to carrying anyone, either.
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I've been watching a lot of early to mid 90's WWF and it is clear they have no idea how to use Undertaker. Just so many Goddamn storylines involving Undertaker losing the urn and fighting guys that even Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels would have a hard time making look good. Undertaker had some great matches during that time but with who else but Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and Mick Foley. It seems tough to book for a large dominate babyface. Put him against a bigger or similar sized opponent and you don't play to his strengths. Put him against a smaller heel and you risk either the heel starting to get cheered for being an underdog or your big guy looking weak for selling too much offense from a smaller guy.
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Undertaker was booked in a vacuum for most of 1992-1996. Occasionally he'd cross over with other stars and go in to title fights, but usually he'd just have his own program with the monster of the month.
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Undertaker got really good towards the end of his career, but his retirement match with Lesnar was uglier than one of those black woman's vaginas that looks like a Philippe's French Dip sandwich after it's been sitting out in a car for about 4 hours, then brought into the arena and chokeslammed through the announce table.
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bartok posted:I've been watching a lot of early to mid 90's WWF and it is clear they have no idea how to use Undertaker. Just so many Goddamn storylines involving Undertaker losing the urn and fighting guys that even Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels would have a hard time making look good. Undertaker had some great matches during that time but with who else but Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and Mick Foley. I started with the first episode of Raw and just finished Summerslam '93, so I just saw his Rest in Peace match with Giant Gonzales. There's a Wrestlecrap article just for this match, but I was actually sort of impressed—because it wasn't as bad as his other big match with Giant Gonzales. Even having only seen mediocre (and worse) Undertaker matches, though, I don't dislike him yet. His gimmick is really entertaining, and all of his signature moves look great. That must count for a lot.
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Goddam I am so loving hungry right now.
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:Undertaker got really good towards the end of his career, but his retirement match with Lesnar was uglier than one of those black woman's vaginas that looks like a Philippe's French Dip sandwich after it's been sitting out in a car for about 4 hours, then brought into the arena and chokeslammed through the announce table. oldpainless posted:Goddam I am so loving hungry right now. I'm not sure which one of these posts is more 
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:Undertaker got really good towards the end of his career, but his retirement match with Lesnar was uglier than one of those black woman's vaginas that looks like a Philippe's French Dip sandwich after it's been sitting out in a car for about 4 hours, then brought into the arena and chokeslammed through the announce table. What the gently caress, dude?
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Gonzo McFee posted:What the gently caress, dude? Eh, beats hot dog talk.
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Gonzo McFee posted:What the gently caress, dude? it was a really ugly match
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