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BaronVonVaderham posted:Louis CK can sum up my feelings on this matter far better than I can: Whoa dude, I'm echoing the prevailing opinion in most Android circles, not getting in a brand war here. Take a step back. I was explaining a theory as to why Samsung chooses to advertise the way they do. I'm not saying that using a Samsung phone instead of using an Apple or an HTC or LG is akin to torture or anything. I'm saying it doesn't have the features necessary to differentiate itself from the rest based on merit so they have to go a different direction. I love that Loius CK bit, but I don't think it's particularly relevant to what I was saying at all. It is ridiculous for people to complain that something that is amazing isn't 100% perfect. Not at all what I was saying. As for specifics, Samsung phones are based on a framework called Touchwiz which is pretty universally hated (check the Android thread on this very website where the attitude is that people who use Samsung phones are pretty much uninformed about what's good and assume Samsung's software is the same as all other Android phones because Samsung is the one they've heard of the most), and it's not always just a matter of "removing preloaded software" because the deficiencies of Touchwiz are baked deeply into the version of Android installed on the phone and the alternative to using Touchwiz based software on an Samsung phone is to flash a custom ROM on to the phone that has that stuff removed (Which many people do) So no, I don't have a vendetta against Samsung. I have a Samsung TV that I spent a lot of money on, it's great. Their phone software leaves much to be desired and is hard to advertise for it based on merit. That's it. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 7, 2014 |
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Retail Slave posted:There is an ad for a car dealership that plays on every channel in the Madison, WI TV market during just about every commercial break. It stars two jackasses in pickle costumes screaming about their NICKEL PICKLE SALE!! I was driving through Madison last week and saw their sign about their "World Famous" Nickel Pickle Sale.
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GutBomb posted:Whoa dude, I'm echoing the prevailing opinion in most Android circles, not getting in a brand war here. Take a step back. I was explaining a theory as to why Samsung chooses to advertise the way they do. I'm not saying that using a Samsung phone instead of using an Apple or an HTC or LG is akin to torture or anything. I'm saying it doesn't have the features necessary to differentiate itself from the rest based on merit so they have to go a different direction. Your points about touchwiz are valid, but you might want to reread your original post. It comes across as, "gently caress Samsung, they make an irredeemably lovely product and only sell it by tearing down my hero Apple." I stand by the relevance of the Louis CK bit, but that's another debate entirely. Don't want to start an argument over it, we're mostly on the same page (I agree that touchwiz is crap but it's not that important to me...I'm also someone who would go to the point of flashing a custom ROM onto my device). My point is just that the original post doesn't sound the way you thought it did, it sounds like the usual crappy brand loyalty rant, and I can't stand that poo poo. Side note: My last phone was a Galaxy Nexus. It was absolute poo poo, I don't think it ever lasted a full day sitting idle on its battery. Just bought an S5, went in blind to test drive then did reserach for a few days after. I was rather close to going with HTC instead, but so far I'm very impressed with this device (so nice that with my normal mild use it will last 3-4 days on a charge). Phones aside, I've never had a problem with my Samsung laptops, they've been universally amazing for me (had one screen crap out on me under warranty and their service department is the exact opposite, but that's customer service with computers anywhere lately). Anyway, actual relevant content: http://www.appliancedirect.com/bebo.html There's no youtube version, sadly, so you have to view it on their site...but jesus christ. I don't miss many things about Florida, but I miss the ridiculousness of Appliance Direct.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Your points about touchwiz are valid, but you might want to reread your original post. It comes across as, "gently caress Samsung, they make an irredeemably lovely product and only sell it by tearing down my hero Apple." I stand by the relevance of the Louis CK bit, but that's another debate entirely. Where? The tone you claim to detect (which I have bolded above) is in no way referenced in the post which I've conveniently quoted for you to look over again. In it you'll notice I used fairly benign terms like "not a pretty good product" in a response to that exact phrase, "not a lot of visual flair" which I suppose could sting if you were the designer, "poor build quality" which is pretty factual and still not close to "gently caress Samsung" or "irredeemably lovely", and "among the slowest of Android phone manufacturers to update their software" which is, you know, quantifiable by looking at software updates from them and other manufacturers. GutBomb posted:The thing is, that in the world of Android phones Samsung does not have a pretty good product, they just have the marketing budget. They have a bloated version of Android on their phone that doesn't have a lot of visual flair, they have poor build quality, and are among the slowest of Android phone manufacturers to update their software, but everyone knows Samsung makes "the best phones" because of their marketing budget. They don't have enough merit to advertise on so they have to advertise with the tone of "we're the Apple alternative" and are trying to get the message across that there are only two choices, Samsung and Apple and you don't do that by touting features that every other Android phone has or will have with it's next release. You do it by tearing down Apple and Apple users and not acknowledging the products that are actually very close in feature-set and compatibility, and that are in most cases better products than the ones you sell. Where am I saying anything even resembling brand loyalty? How about reading my words instead of assuming you know what I'm talking about. Again, just to be clear, a question was asked why Samsung doesn't advertise their products based on merit, I answered the drat question. If anyone is getting super defensive about brand choices it's you who jumped to the defense of your purchase after I so deeply besmirched Samsung's good name. PS: while I use an iPhone now I deeply regret trading in my HTC One for it. No brand loyalty here, dude. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jul 7, 2014 |
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GutBomb posted:Where? I was referring to the repeated mention of Samsung attacking Apple, which come across as defensive. But whatever dude, there's nothing to be gained trying to convince each other of anything here, end of derail.
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Rahonavis posted:"Good morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAmu8_h4WW0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFfT5SVIIQ Nabi, you're a dick. I don't want you playing with my kids. I don't have any kids at the moment, it's the sentiment that counts.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:I have to find or record for myself this motorcycle accident attorney here in Michigan. It starts off, "If you ride a motorcycle, sooner or later you WILL go down!" "You're going to drop your bike, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO DO IT OURSELVES."
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Mahoning posted:Sure it's a legit point. Almost every commercial has some sort of legit point. That's not what makes it bad though. They spend the whole ad showing people using their competitor's product. And to make it worse, most of them seem happy to be plugged into the wall, not miserable. What has always bothered me about Samsung ads is they spend the entire commercial talking about Apple and nearly forget that they have a pretty good product on their hands. Do they still have that depressing, meandering violin music through the whole thing? That's what I hate most about those commercials.
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I was reading through this entire conversation and I automatically assumed at first that you were all talking about that one song in the new commercials where it sounds like the person's yawn-singing repeatedly because that poo poo's annoying
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Timett posted:I don't have a problem with their commercials in general but I wish rosetta stone would stop acting like giving away a free demo was a huge event The one I hate is the one where it's supposed to be someone calling in for the free demo, and he asks "What's the catch?" I used to take these calls. The 'catch' is that you have to get past no less than THREE attempts to get you to whip out the credit card and buy the full program. Once you get past this, then we get your shipping info to send the demo. I think it's jumping through all the hoops is what makes the demo giveaway an "event".
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I can't believe Vonage bought back the annoying "Woo Hoo Woo Hoo" song in their ads. It's a shame that song from Kill Bill is forever ruined by being associated to a crappy phone company.
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Retail Slave posted:There is an ad for a car dealership that plays on every channel in the Madison, WI TV market during just about every commercial break. It stars two jackasses in pickle costumes screaming about their NICKEL PICKLE SALE!! We have a guy who does pretty much the exact same commercial here in Arizona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIon6KBIpac
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Rirse posted:I can't believe Vonage bought back the annoying "Woo Hoo Woo Hoo" song in their ads. It's a shame that song from Kill Bill is forever ruined by being associated to a crappy phone company. Cage fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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ElTacoGato posted:We have a guy who does pretty much the exact same commercial here in Arizona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIon6KBIpac Same exact script too, wow. Who's getting the royalty payments for that glorious bit of sketch comedy?
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Cage posted:Why can't you believe it? They paid money to use it once, why not twice? It wasn't a good song in Kill Bill though. In fact, it isnt a good song at all! Thank you. There are some good songs on the Kill Bill soundtrack, that isn't one of them. Suspicious Dish posted:Same exact script too, wow. Who's getting the royalty payments for that glorious bit of sketch comedy? Odds are it's a somewhat canned/generic deal from a national ad agency. Also holy poo poo your av owns.
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ElTacoGato posted:We have a guy who does pretty much the exact same commercial here in Arizona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIon6KBIpac drat, this makes it so much worse. Stupid local car ads done by stupid local car dealers are one thing, but there's some national agency selling people on the "Nickle Pickle" ad package.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boh3yYP0FIg This Febreeze commercial doesn't make me want to buy the product, it makes me want to sit on that couch.
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muscles like this? posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boh3yYP0FIg  I'm torn between the kitty couch and doggy car. Oh what the hell, there's room in my heart for both.
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Rahonavis posted:and doggy car. Chicks dig it. It's the shaggin' wagon.
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*takes deep breath; exhales slowly* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioBICmyDfB0
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DJExile posted:Thank you. There are some good songs on the Kill Bill soundtrack, that isn't one of them. It doesn't have to be, the single uncut shot that it resides in is sweet enough that the song is just background noise.
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DJExile posted:Thank you. There are some good songs on the Kill Bill soundtrack, that isn't one of them. On the other hand, it did lead to this.
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raditts posted:On the other hand, it did lead to this. ok that's fantastic
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More crazy car poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6v8QuYOqCY I really can't see this thing catching very much. A $10 dollar value! But they'll give you four for $10 (plus some probably ridiculous s&h).
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I really wanna see some statistics on how many things advertised as "patent pending" ever actually get patents approved
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Mister Kingdom posted:More crazy car poo poo. Its one of those things that's not a bad idea, but not a good enough idea to sell to people.
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skaboomizzy posted:The Sprint framily commercial where the hamster is talking to Jeff Gordon (Gor-DON?) and rolls himself off a tool chest: that isn't a good thing to happen to a hamster, right? I've never had one so I don't know how durable hamster balls or hamster bones are. The new one is really weird cause it ends with the hamster announcing he and his daughter or whatever are going to eat tacos and she looks really good and it's pretty bizarre. who is that actress i feel like i used to see her a lot in bad horror movies or something.
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Do you mean Judy Greer?
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Sash! posted:Its one of those things that's not a bad idea, but not a good enough idea to sell to people. I checked my car and this thing would never fit between the seat and the console.
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Because of all the miscellaneous poo poo that's fallen down there?
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Grin and Tonic posted:The new one is really weird cause it ends with the hamster announcing he and his daughter or whatever are going to eat tacos and she looks really good and it's pretty bizarre. who is that actress i feel like i used to see her a lot in bad horror movies or something.  She's been in a lot of stuff and gets that same response. She just wrote a book about it titled, "I Don't Know Where You Know Me From".
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Pierce and Pierce posted:Because of all the miscellaneous poo poo that's fallen down there? Yeah clean out the french fries once in a while. They're probably compressing under their own weight into fry-strata.
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Vicas posted:I really wanna see some statistics on how many things advertised as "patent pending" ever actually get patents approved It's not hard to get a patent at all. But just because you get a patent doesn't mean you will make any money.
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Is "patent pending" a legal protection? like, no one else can produce your product until the case is decided?
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razorrozar posted:Is "patent pending" a legal protection? like, no one else can produce your product until the case is decided? US Patent Department posted:The protection afforded by a patent does not start until the actual grant of the patent. So get out to the garage and make your own catchy thing.
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Its kind of funny how 5 Hour Energy is doing commercials basically stating they know they taste like crap and please people at home fix it and they'll kind of give you money.
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muscles like this? posted:Its kind of funny how 5 Hour Energy is doing commercials basically stating they know they taste like crap and please people at home fix it and they'll kind of give you money. Buckley's "it tastes awful, and it works" slogan works pretty well.
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ElwoodCuse posted:It's not hard to get a patent at all. But just because you get a patent doesn't mean you will make any money. My dad is a patent agent, so I know a good deal about the system. It's just weird to me that every single one of these As Seen On TV type ads says "patent pending design" that makes me wonder how many even get approved, or if their creators just run out of money before the patent comes through
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Target, having learned nothing from Apple's "Gigantic" ad campaign, is using "Kids In America" for a back to school sale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zwOK9xlEWk
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