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dennyk posted:Has Goodyear even made any new NASCAR rain tires in the last decade? I thought the Nationwide guys were still using up the leftover old surplus rain tires they churned out years ago when they were first considering using them at the road courses in Cup. I agree, NASCAR needs to run Pacific and Portland at least once each a year.
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Peanut President posted:I agree, NASCAR needs to run Pacific and Portland at least once each a year. I like the idea of Portland being used as a track again period.
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FuzzySkinner posted:A great driver with great opinions. we've gone from "hey this thing is forming to get a bit of sponsor money for rich dudes" to "a magical group of princes are going to make all my twisted dreams come true!" in under a week that's gotta be some kind of record FuzzySkinner posted:Honestly, I would try to do this: it's almost as if Trucks and Nationwide aren't development series and are full on professional touring series at the national level stop making posts like these Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Peanut President posted:I agree, NASCAR needs to run Pacific and Portland at least once each a year. Make it a season finale or one of the first races. A slam dunk to have rain.
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VikingSkull posted:it's almost as if Trucks and Nationwide aren't development series and are full on professional touring series at the national level. Yes and they suck. (except when SRA is racing). The way those three series are constructed make for absolute garbage racing right now. Hell, ARCA is more entertaining to watch then loving Nationwide. How sad is that? Also, go back to sucking Brian France's dick, and shut the gently caress up. "DURR HIS SERIES SAVED OVAL TRACK RACING". rear end in a top hat. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:Yes and they suck. (except when SRA is racing). What the gently caress trucks don't suck!
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Uncle Jam posted:What the gently caress trucks don't suck! When Trucks are at Eldora, Iowa or when the great SRA is racing? Yeah, they're pretty cool. It's why I argued they should be kept the way they are for the most part. They're pretty terrible when Kyle Busch is racing though IMO.
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All racing series are better when the Busch brothers race in them.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:All racing series are better when the Busch brothers race in them. And bad Brad!
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  Man, Peters better run. I hear he knows a guy.
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BMB5150 posted:Make it a season finale or one of the first races. A slam dunk to have rain. I'd take Portland over Homestead anytime. Forty-degrees and pouring down rain for the finale?  FuzzySkinner posted:Yes and they suck. (except when SRA is racing). Easy there killer. Trucks and Nationwide are not better than ARCA. ARCA is more fun to watch because everyone in it is terrible.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Yes and they suck. (except when SRA is racing). wow look at this "I know what will fix Nationwide, ALL ROAD COURSES  "because what you want to do to fix the two "development series" is make them as different as possible from the top series also what crowd was bigger this weekend, show me on the doll where the attendance count touched you Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Jul 13, 2014 14:03
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The ability to shoot paintballs in every series a la NASCAR '98 would fix everything imo
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NASCAR TV Silly Season update, with today TNT's last broadcast: Booth: Adam Alexander- Does other NASCAR and college football stuff with FS1. Seems like he'd be a candidate for the Truck gig next year. Wally Dallenbach- NBC Indy color guy, I think he's made some appearances on NASCAR America. Might see him again. Kyle Petty- Will be on TV somewhere. Larry Mac- Continues with FOX. Chris Neville- Does sports cars on FS1. Will probably continue there. Ralph Sheheen- Said he's doing Barrett-Jackson and bikes the rest of the year. Also does voiceover work for NBCSN. Could be a candidate for the Truck gig in 2015. Marty Snider- To NBC in 2015. Matt Yocum- Continues with FOX. FuzzySkinner posted:Yes and they suck. (except when SRA is racing). Trucks are only bad when one driver is in the field, because that one driver wins. Trucks are the only series that make cookie cutters provide decent racing. Nationwide is beyond hope. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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I think both series can be made viable semi-independent series again, but it would take more time, effort, money and patience than all but a select few (between teams, tracks, sponsors and the sanctioning body) would put into it.
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That won't happen until the TV deal doesn't include them, and if it ever does happen they won't have a TV deal. "Live from a track you don't know, 40 guys you've never heard of battle it out! Here, only on Fox Sports 7 1/2!"
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I like the trucks. I don't always watch but when I do I am entertained.
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VikingSkull posted:That won't happen until the TV deal doesn't include them, and if it ever does happen they won't have a TV deal. I hate to tell you this, but that is exactly how things are already for the majority of the population, including those who have already forgotten that time they watched NASCAR in the early 2000's because it seemed to be a hot topic at the office.
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VikingSkull posted:"Live from a track you don't know, 40 guys you've never heard of battle it out! Here, only on Fox Sports 7 1/2!" You just described the Cup series, friend. The tracks are all so similar now that I have trouble telling which one they're at this week (and I'm sure most other fans are the same way), and in 10 years so many drivers have came in and gone out of Cup that there are only 14 drivers who were around in 2004 and are still going. And only 4 of them (Johnson, Gordon, Biffle and Edwards) are still with the same team. So yeah let's go watch the Sprint Cup Series! Where the points system changes every year, the only constant in the schedule is the northern swing in June, and 39 entries are completely different every year! But don't you even dream of changing Nationwide or Trucks. Peanut President fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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VikingSkull posted:because what you want to do to fix the two "development series" is make them as different as possible from the top series Let's rewind to what you just said, because obviously you have you can't read with your head up on your own rear end. VikingSkull posted:it's almost as if Trucks and Nationwide aren't development series and are full on professional touring series at the national level Yes, they are not DEVELOPMENT SERIES ANYMORE. BRIAN FRANCE HAS EVEN SAID THE SAME THING. It's something NASCAR has truly hosed up honestly. You ever read racingnomics? He has a good break down of how NASCAR has hosed up their driver development program across the board. So the gently caress is the point of the nationwide series? the gently caress is the point of the truck series? Wouldn't it be FAR BETTER to treat the three like separate series with all three going to a National Championship-points system? Also go take the "DURR ATTENDANCE" comments and shove them up your rear end. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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What's better: 5000 people showing up to watch a busch race at Kansas or 5000 people showing up to watch a busch race at Memphis? Choose wisely.
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Make all truck races figure 8 races. Hail satan
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Trucks are amazing except when some guy whose 2 series up comes in and whoops everyone's rear end. Usually I'd prefer watching trucks over cup especially if it's at a cookie track.
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Peanut President posted:You just described the Cup series, friend. I acknowledge the teams are generally the same, but that's better than the turnover rate for NFL and NHL rosters. E: Fuzzy, I get your point about nns and trucks supposedly not being development tours, but that's lip service when the same source gives out licenses to vastly under qualified and unproven drivers. Boomer The Cannon fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Peanut President posted:What's better: 5000 people showing up to watch a busch race at Kansas or 5000 people showing up to watch a busch race at Memphis? Choose wisely. 5000 people showing up to watch a busch race at Iowa because CORN.
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Larry Mac owns, smokes a cigar on live TV because what are they gonna do, fire him?FuzzySkinner posted:Let's rewind to what you just said, because obviously you have you can't read with your head up on your own rear end. You seem angry.
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Rain could be a factor in the race today. It's pretty close to me and I'm not that far from the track. Also, no I didn't want to go to the race today. That track is getting pretty crappy. It should be removed from the schedule.
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Boomer The Cannon posted:E: Fuzzy, I get your point about nns and trucks supposedly not being development tours, but that's lip service when the same source gives out licenses to vastly under qualified and unproven drivers. Yeah. What I'm saying is it's just kind of dumb to have say, Kansas X3 be a thing during a race weekend honestly. Especially when Kyle Busch shows up to all three races and wins two of them. VikingSkull posted:You seem angry. Go Cavs.  . I'm actually kind of excited honestly.
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Well you were the one that said pseudo-development, man, I don't (and have never) viewed them as such. So if they aren't a development series, and are more or less professional by themselves, then it makes sense that NASCAR would set them up in such a way as to maximize their TV exposure at the lowest cost. That means racing all 3 series at the same weekend at the same track as much as possible. Setting it up as you suggest would kill both the Trucks and Nationwide.
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VikingSkull posted:Well you were the one that said pseudo-development, man, I don't (and have never) viewed them as such. I understand that, I just feel it would it be quite a bit cooler to see such a thing. Not that I want to kill Stock Car racing, but I just think running at tracks like Myrtle Beach again would be pretty awesome. Peace? Don't like fighting lol, I don't hate ya man.
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Biffle and Johnson already having problems. Goodyear at it's best.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I understand that, I just feel it would it be quite a bit cooler to see such a thing. I don't get mad at anyone here, even when they get me probated. Also let's blame Goodyear for tire problems despite teams running 0 PSI in the left rears. gently caress you, Goodyear, make a tire that we can reliably run out of spec 
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VikingSkull posted:Also let's blame Goodyear for tire problems despite teams running 0 PSI in the left rears. gently caress you, Goodyear, make a tire that we can reliably run out of spec It's getting to the point Goodyear needs to make a wider tire just to compensate for the cars having more aero and thus being faster in the corners. Loads on them are just getting more and more intense and this year has had a rash of these problems. Does Goodyear have a track record of producing poo poo tires, yeah lets go back to 05 - 08. But NASCAR didn't do them favors with more aero for this year so I can't blame them too much but could have had much more preparation for thisrace.
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The fact that a 15x10 tire can hold up to the forces generated as much as they do is an impressive feat of engineering, so much so that the tire tech might be the most impressive part of a NASCAR. There's plenty to get mad at occasionally, but tbh at a place like Loudon, most of the tire problems that we see are usually due to aggressive setups more than they are bad tires. I'll guarantee that if there's a rash of tire issues today, they'll focus mainly on the fastest teams, and if it was a manufacturer issue the problems wouldn't discriminate. That's the easiest way to tell if the issue is tire or setup based.
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BTW, Viking drove by the USAC World HQ (which is like a short walk from IMS actually). Was kind of shocked it's so small honestly. They DID however have a big rear end sign promoting a partnership with them and Honda though. Apparently they were running Quarter Midgets in the IMS parking lot over the weekend though.
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VikingSkull posted:Isn't that where the Sprint Car Hall of Fame is, too? I was in Speedway. I do wish I was in Knoxville though because that museum sounds bad rear end.
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VikingSkull posted:Isn't that where the Sprint Car Hall of Fame is, too? I believe that's in Knoxville. Certainly not in Indy.
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