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PCOS Bill posted:Nope, nope, and nope. Worse than all three It is most definitely better than the current/old ForTwo
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Yeah you Americans never got to experience the first Fortwo...the one with the diesel engine and the world's worst transmission (it was far, far worse than the transmission fitted to the second-gen Fortwo). The first-gen Fortwo was an irredeemable shitheap by itself, made worse by the fact that here in Canada it was sold and serviced by Mercedes dealerships.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:24
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Well this one will have a 5 speed manual available so maybe it's not all bad.
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Jul 17, 2014 04:12
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MrChips posted:Yeah you Americans never got to experience the first Fortwo...the one with the diesel engine and the world's worst transmission (it was far, far worse than the transmission fitted to the second-gen Fortwo). The first-gen Fortwo was an irredeemable shitheap by itself, made worse by the fact that here in Canada it was sold and serviced by Mercedes dealerships. I can't imagine a worse transmission than the Smart I drove. Your entire body would shift forward in the 2 seconds it took to shift.
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MrChips posted:Yeah you Americans never got to experience the first Fortwo...the one with the diesel engine and the world's worst transmission (it was far, far worse than the transmission fitted to the second-gen Fortwo). The first-gen Fortwo was an irredeemable shitheap by itself, made worse by the fact that here in Canada it was sold and serviced by Mercedes dealerships. But you guys got that trick little smart roadster that was on Top Gear! grass is always greener and all that jazz haha.
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MrChips posted:Yeah you Americans never got to experience the first Fortwo...the one with the diesel engine and the world's worst transmission (it was far, far worse than the transmission fitted to the second-gen Fortwo). The first-gen Fortwo was an irredeemable shitheap by itself, made worse by the fact that here in Canada it was sold and serviced by Mercedes dealerships. Wait, was there no manual option for the ForTwo in Europe?
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Throatwarbler posted:Well this one will have a 5 speed manual available so maybe it's not all bad. 100% redeemed.
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Jul 17, 2014 04:44
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All this Challenger stuff is nice but it's still overly large and chubby-cheeked. Where's the 2015 Comanche SRT Hellcat?
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Do we know if the Hellcat is gonna be a limited run or not? Because if the MSRP for it is 60k and it's going to be around for a while, what's the point in spending 50K for an SRT8 Challenger or Charger? I wonder if Dodge is gonna be shooting themselves in the foot with that close of a price to their SRT line-up.
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Here are starting prices for various trim levels. $26,995 SXT MSRP $31,495 R/T MSRP $34,495 R/T Plus MSRP $38,495 R/T Scat Pack MSRP $45,395 SRT 392 MSRP $59,995 SRT Hellcat MSRP There's been no number given for Hellcat production, but most people think that they won't exceed 5 to 6 thousand a year.
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Jul 17, 2014 05:26
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Devyl posted:Do we know if the Hellcat is gonna be a limited run or not? Because if the MSRP for it is 60k and it's going to be around for a while, what's the point in spending 50K for an SRT8 Challenger or Charger? I wonder if Dodge is gonna be shooting themselves in the foot with that close of a price to their SRT line-up. It's not a limited run or production, there's an interview (that I can't find now) that says Dodge will make as many Hellcats as people are willing to buy. The 8 speed auto that Chrysler is putting into their bigger cars is kind of awesome. A Hellcat with the 8 spd gets 20 MPG combined. A 392 Challenger with the 8 spd avoids the gas guzzler tax completely. It actually gets the same MPG as the current Challenger R/T does.
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Jul 17, 2014 05:31
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Official press kit for the 2015 Mazda2 is out: http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-mazda2-is-how-you-make-a-good-looking-small-ha-1606492167 That interior. That gauge cluster. 
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Jul 17, 2014 14:14
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Devyl posted:Do we know if the Hellcat is gonna be a limited run or not? Because if the MSRP for it is 60k and it's going to be around for a while, what's the point in spending 50K for an SRT8 Challenger or Charger? I wonder if Dodge is gonna be shooting themselves in the foot with that close of a price to their SRT line-up. Cannibalizing sales of cheaper models with more expensive models is not a bad thing.
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It's a bit confusing now that the R/T Scat Pack also has the 6.4l engine but is $8k less than the SRT 392, I guess they really wanted to match GM in terms of displacement at every trim level. A 6.4l for $38k with a stick seems like the sweet spot.
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Phone posted:Official press kit for the 2015 Mazda2 is out: http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-mazda2-is-how-you-make-a-good-looking-small-ha-1606492167 Holy god, that is going to sell so well for them!
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Throatwarbler posted:It's a bit confusing now that the R/T Scat Pack also has the 6.4l engine but is $8k less than the SRT 392, I guess they really wanted to match GM in terms of displacement at every trim level. A 6.4l for $38k with a stick seems like the sweet spot. The R/T Scat Pack is replacing the SRT Core model, while having more content than the SRT Core, but $2,000 cheaper. Plus the SRT 392 now comes with a lot more stuff standard.
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Jul 17, 2014 14:52
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sean10mm posted:They were in a race to the bottom with the Mitsubishi Eclipse, and goddamnit, they were going to get to the bottom FIRST! I learned how to drive stick on my sister's Tiburon GT. It was a fantastic car to learn on (really really easy to use clutch) and liked to rev. Honestly I'd take one (second gen) over any Eclipse. Also appearantly in Europe it was just known as 'Hyundai Coupe' 
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Jul 17, 2014 15:23
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Lilleput posted:Holy god, that is going to sell so well for them! I wish the rear glass was a little more vertical. I wonder how rear seat room is gonna be. But yeah that car looks sweet.
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Jul 17, 2014 15:36
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Bob NewSCART posted:What even is the story of this piece of poo poo? It's one of the most god awful looking things I've ever seen The second gen was pretty ok looking though? Not like pretty but acceptable for a cheap fwd coupe
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Jul 17, 2014 15:42
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MrChips posted:Yeah you Americans never got to experience the first Fortwo...the one with the diesel engine and the world's worst transmission (it was far, far worse than the transmission fitted to the second-gen Fortwo). The first-gen Fortwo was an irredeemable shitheap by itself, made worse by the fact that here in Canada it was sold and serviced by Mercedes dealerships. I've driven an original one and a few of the newer ones and I can't tell any difference in the transmissions - they're all uniformly terrible.
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Looks like final power figures are coming out finally for the S550 Mustang: 435 HP/400 lb. ft. for the V8, 310 HP & 320 lb. ft. for the EB 2.3 Also the EB has been confirmed as the lightest of the models at 3517 for the manual EB.  (When exactly did 3500 lbs become 'light'?)
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HotCanadianChick posted:(When exactly did 3500 lbs become 'light'?) Modern cars are pigs
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Phone posted:Official press kit for the 2015 Mazda2 is out: http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-mazda2-is-how-you-make-a-good-looking-small-ha-1606492167 That is legit the best interior design I've seen in any modern car, it's going to age so well.
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What are the odds Mazda actually makes a performance version of the new Mazda2 to compete with the Fiesta ST?
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Tacier posted:What are the odds Mazda actually makes a performance version of the new Mazda2 to compete with the Fiesta ST? Extremely low. The only thing they really have on tap currently that is a "hot" motor is the Skyactiv D 2.2L that they have trouble with. I'm hoping that they bring over the 1.5L turbo diesel, though. I think there was a rumor about a new Mazdaspeed3, but I don't know if they have a secret turbocharging department.
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If they could squeeze the 2.5 from the 6 into it that'd be pretty good for a Mazdaspeed 2 at 184 hp/185 lb-ft.
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Jul 17, 2014 22:41
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New GT350 at the Ring. Makes a nice noise.
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Q_res posted:If they could squeeze the 2.5 from the 6 into it that'd be pretty good for a Mazdaspeed 2 at 184 hp/185 lb-ft. Yeah, but a motor that (relatively) big might upset the car's balance. That flat crank V8 in the GT350 sounds incredible. I love it when Ford decides they want to play Ferrari.
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PeterWeller posted:Yeah, but a motor that (relatively) big might upset the car's balance. That would be my main concern, along with it actually fitting in the first place, but it would certainly be no worse than the 2.2 Diesel he mentioned.
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The way Mazda's going the new Miata is going to be gorgeous.
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Some more interior in a disposable car porn:     
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Jul 18, 2014 01:47
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Finally, a clean, simple, attractive interior without all the wooshy, swoopy, bulbous, light up bullshit that 90% of new cars today have.
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Phone posted:Some more interior in a disposable car porn: I can't remember I saw an interior with such clean lines in a modern car. It's flat-out gorgeous.
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Redline at 5-5.5k? Seems odd. The NC2 (the only one I can recall right now) redline is 7200 or so.
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Jul 18, 2014 02:00
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That's probably for the diesel, unless I'm dumb and modern diesels rev as high as gasoline engines.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Redline at 5-5.5k? Seems odd. The NC2 (the only one I can recall right now) redline is 7200 or so. Think that's the small diesel they have overseas. All the pics have been RHD.
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loving hell, for some reason I thought those images where for the new MX-5 and got confused when you started talking about diesels. 
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Jul 18, 2014 02:11
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Hopefully they won't give us a digital tach for manual transmissions. That's the only thing I don't like about the new 3 (only the S models get the analog tach, and they aren't available with MT yet).
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Nidhg00670000 posted:loving hell, for some reason I thought those images where for the new MX-5 and got confused when you started talking about diesels. It's the 2015 Japanese/2016 USA Mazda2 interior. The Mazda "Community Manager" has said multiple things about the ND interior being similar to the Mazda2 one.
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I bet they'll stick with the traditional 5 ciricle display on the Miata. That's one of its little signature stylistic cues. Similarly, I won't trust any renderings that don't have two pairs of circular tail lights.
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