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triplexpac posted:Vince has the weirdest announcing voice. I don't even know how to describe it, it's just so different from the way anyone would actually talk, especially his own speaking voice. Steve at OSW Review did a perfect "Vince on commentary" impression one time and it was pretty much exactly that, yeah. He would just get progressively more nasal instead of louder, and when he's really going it sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Also, while I don't mind "UNBELIEVABLE" I found that I quickly got tired of "ONE TWO HE GOT HIM THAT'S IT FOLKS RICKY STEAMBOAT JUST PINNED TED DIBIASE WITH AN ARMDRAG IN THE SECOND MINUTE OF THIS MATCH THANKS FOR WATCHING AND GOOD NIGHT" "...........NO HE DIDN'T"
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Gonzo McFee posted:He announced like he was constantly caught of guard during a yawn. Haha yeah that's actually pretty accurate
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Gonzo McFee posted:He announced like he was constantly caught of guard during a yawn. That's the best description of Vince's announcing I've ever heard. Especially considering that he hates sneezing.
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Jul 17, 2014 17:29
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I'm another one of those weird people who actually quite liked Cole/Tazz in the early part of the 2000s. I've always felt that Cole has a good voice for simply presenting things (and for speaking more strongly when the situation calls for it, not that it always works out), while Tazz, with his tougher-sounding wrestlespeak, veered towards heel but still suitably condemned Heyman/Vince/another authority figure when they were, say, punishing wrestlers by feeding them to Lesnar or Big Show. Maybe this is down to Heyman's alleged re-recording of their stuff, or maybe it's just nostalgia (as it's some of the stuff I grew up with). Either way, they don't topple my first commentary team love of JR/Heyman. I still think their pairing in 2001 is underrated, from what I read online. I know people hate The Invasion, but they could actually make it very entertaining. (watching, I think, RVD/Jericho at Unforgiven 2001 in a hardcore match; JR has just brought up how barbaric the match is) Heyman: I think it's great!  : Have you ever been in a hardcore match, Paul?Heyman: ... I promoted a bunch of 'em!  (JR audio-facepalms) I feel like Heyman was good for the "what makes a good heel commentator?" question too. Despite representing the heels in a long, all-encompassing storyline, he still put both sides over. EDIT: Solomonic posted:Steve at OSW Review did a perfect "Vince on commentary" impression one time and it was pretty much exactly that, yeah. He would just get progressively more nasal instead of louder, and when he's really going it sounds like a vacuum cleaner. One of my favourite all-time OSW Review moments! For anyone who's not seen it, I think it's around the 68 minute mark of their Summerslam 1992 review. Should be on Youtube/Vimeo. "OHMYGOOOOODDDDDOWWAAAAAAAA!!!" Hedgehog Pie fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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I distinctly remember this one Raw where Cole was doing his usual Oh My excitement thing, but the commentary desk was in the camera shot and you could see Cole looking elsewhere with a disinterested expression while Oh My-ing and doing his 'excited' voice. It was creepy
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Jul 17, 2014 18:04
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fatherdog posted:Bobby or Jess: <Ridiculous heel tirade> The worst part about this is that when JBL and Cole were the commentators on Smackdown back in like 2008 or whatever, JBL still acted like he hated Cole, but he wouldn't just loving fixate on it the way he does now. Basic Chunnel posted:Ventura put over the face talent as a heel commentator, which JBL rarely does and heel Cole NEVER did. At MitB 2011 Cole just screamed NERRRRD whenever focus shifted to Bryan. Ventura would've objected to made-up unfair advantages but would also talk up ability and heart, etc etc. I was watching a steamboat/macho man bout the other day and that's basically what Ventura did, praise Steamboat while fearmongering about how unsafe his striking style was. I also have a lot of memories of Bobby Heenan screaming "WHAT A MATCH!" and selling how exhausted he was just watching certain matches, even if they involved people that he would normally talk poo poo about on commentary. Watch Bulldog/Bret from Summerslam 92, after a certain point in the match you wouldn't even know Brain is a heel commentator anymore.
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DeathChicken posted:I distinctly remember this one Raw where Cole was doing his usual Oh My excitement thing, but the commentary desk was in the camera shot and you could see Cole looking elsewhere with a disinterested expression while Oh My-ing and doing his 'excited' voice. It was creepy Cole's blatant phoniness drives me nuts. He's like nega-J.R.
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Jul 17, 2014 18:09
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Heenan single handedly added a lot to Heel Doink's character, always stressing that Doink was clearly a very good wrestler throwing people off with the clown stuff. It was also fun how Heenan could *almost* piece together that he recognized him as Matt Bourne, but not quite.
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HulkaMatt posted:as bad as commentary is now that period with heel cole is some of the worst poo poo. It had some funny moments but he would never shut up. Heel Cole would have been a great manager, but lead announcer on every TV show was the worst possible place for that schtick.
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JR and Heyman either actually didn't like each other, or were both REALLY good at pretending they didn't. I remember how much it genuinely sounded like they got on each other's nerves whenever they had to call together, and Heyman often pushed the envelope so far that he probably did piss off JR occasionally anyway. As far as heel Cole, I remember hearing Cole say something ridiculous and stupid, and Booker on the Smackdown desk at the time would basically just facepalm because he wasn't allowed to argue even though you could tell he really wanted to. Booker wasn't a very good announcer in the first place but he knew how bad of a gimmick it was, and he knew it was even worse that nobody could say anything against him because the gimmick was protected until their big money moments. sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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sticklefifer posted:As far as heel Cole, I remember hearing Cole say something ridiculous and stupid, and Booker on the Smackdown desk at the time would basically just facepalm because he wasn't allowed to argue even though you could tell he really wanted to. Booker wasn't a very good announcer in the first place but he knew how bad of a gimmick it was, and he knew it was even worse that nobody could say anything against him because the gimmick was protected until their big money moments.
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Some people have said his voice is too light or subdued for main event stuff. I think he could bring it though, dude can still cut a fine promo when he wants to. Regal's hard to hate though, so rather than heel commentary I'd rather he replace Lawler.
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Jul 17, 2014 21:17
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What was the context of Mae Young giving birth to a hand?
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Halloween Jack posted:Let me axe you something stickle, how do you think Regal would fare on the Raw commentary desk? I think Jason Albert OR William Regal would be excellent replacements for JBL, I've loved the Heel Color Commentator work they've done on NXT. Then replace King with Rene Young and you've got a much better show.
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Jul 17, 2014 21:20
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Luigi Thirty posted:What was the context of Mae Young giving birth to a hand? She was dating Mark Henry, announced she was pregnant, and later gave birth to a hand. I think that's about all the relevant context there is to it.
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Jul 17, 2014 21:21
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I think in a hypothetical future world Regal would be a decent commentator on RAW. In the actual world, he stammers a bit just trying to get his thoughts out on regular commentary; with a constant secondary soundtrack of Vince screaming in his ear I don't think he'd do very well.
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Jul 17, 2014 21:22
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DeathChicken posted:I distinctly remember this one Raw where Cole was doing his usual Oh My excitement thing, but the commentary desk was in the camera shot and you could see Cole looking elsewhere with a disinterested expression while Oh My-ing and doing his 'excited' voice. It was creepy http://youtu.be/NBxbP-AmWYA
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Jul 17, 2014 21:23
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Bring Don West to the Raw announce table and everything will be 10000x better Edit: Also that ROH on HDNet guy
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Diabolik900 posted:She was dating Mark Henry, announced she was pregnant, and later gave birth to a hand. I think that's about all the relevant context there is to it. I remember reading that Russo originally wanted her to give birth to a douchebag but the USA censors turned that down. I'm glad they did.
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Jul 17, 2014 21:38
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Dean Ambrose is fantastic on commentary, because his rambling droning still manages to call the match, insult who needs insulting and praise those who are on his side.
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sticklefifer posted:JR and Heyman either actually didn't like each other, or were both REALLY good at pretending they didn't. I remember how much it genuinely sounded like they got on each other's nerves whenever they had to call together, and Heyman often pushed the envelope so far that he probably did piss off JR occasionally anyway. The best example of this (which sadly isn't on the network) is after Austin vs Angle at Summerslam 2001. JR is absolutely fuming pissed off at the world and Paul just stonewalls him and plugs Excess or whatever show it was totally straight-faced.
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Jul 17, 2014 22:49
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Luigi Thirty posted:What was the context of Mae Young giving birth to a hand? Other people have already pointed out the plot context, but I think the implication is that it was a hand shaped sex toy.
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jscolon2.0 posted:Other people have already pointed out the plot context, but I think the implication is that it was a hand shaped sex toy. It also led to the joke afterwards where everyone in the room "gave Mae a hand". I'll always love that angle, if only because Mae's pregnancy led to Kurt Angle saying in a promo, completely straight faced, that "Just because last week I suplexed an 82 year old pregnant woman, doesn't mean I can't still be your Olympic hero".
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triplexpac posted:Bring Don West to the Raw announce table and everything will be 10000x better hogewood was unironically great commentators endlessly bickering is one of my biggest turnoffs when watching wrestling and is a large part of why i havent watched any wwe in a while
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Sanguinia posted:I think Jason Albert OR William Regal would be excellent replacements for JBL, I've loved the Heel Color Commentator work they've done on NXT. No no leave Renee Young and Regal on NXT so I can listen to them flirt with each other on commentary without Vince ruining it. Those two are adorable.
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CombineThresher posted:No no leave Renee Young and Regal on NXT so I can listen to them flirt with each other on commentary without Vince ruining it. Those two are adorable. But if she moves to Raw then we'll see more of her explosive sexual chemistry with the Titty Master whenever he stops in to do color.
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TL posted:It also led to the joke afterwards where everyone in the room "gave Mae a hand". Haha what? Is there video of this promo?
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TL posted:It also led to the joke afterwards where everyone in the room "gave Mae a hand". It's also amazing that it's not the most outrageous heel promo he's cut. Even if you just limit it to WWE.
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I love mike hogewood. Slap the porpoise!
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Gaz-L posted:It's also amazing that it's not the most outrageous heel promo he's cut. Even if you just limit it to WWE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjvFMjPD5zg You're welcome.
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Xerzes posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjvFMjPD5zg Jesus. Never. Tapped. I know because the Green Ranger said so.
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sticklefifer posted:JR and Heyman either actually didn't like each other, or were both REALLY good at pretending they didn't. I remember how much it genuinely sounded like they got on each other's nerves whenever they had to call together, and Heyman often pushed the envelope so far that he probably did piss off JR occasionally anyway. The impression I get is that JR went to bat for Heyman after Lawler left and that he enjoyed himself with him, though that's pretty much all speculation going off of slight comments they've both made. I know folks don't like bickering commentators - I don't either usually - but coming back to those two, I actually think their bickering adds a lot to Survivor Series 2001. The Invasion wasn't really a proper WWE vs WCW/ECW storyline, but that event was the big pay-off with the "winner takes all" match. They ramped the pressure up, Heyman arrogantly yelling, "I look forward to personally firing you tomorrow night on Raw, JR!" and JR responding with "Aw, screw you Paul!" in various ways. Made it seem important I thought. Then this happened (skip to 3:20). 
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Stallion Cabana posted:Jesus. Never. Tapped. Not with his hands nailed there he didn't.
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TL posted:It also led to the joke afterwards where everyone in the room "gave Mae a hand". Mae giving birth to a hand stumped me for ages. I was determined to work out what it was supposed to reference.
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Jul 18, 2014 08:33
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Did Scott Hall ever injure anyone with a razor's edge?
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TL posted:Not with his hands nailed there he didn't. I know it's blasphemy, but I preferred when Austin did that angle. The heel turn Jesus did with the money changers was just so half-assed, and just to set up the double-turn with Judas.
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This Nation of Domination talk has got me wondering. What happened to him after WWE? And what is everybody's opinion of him? I found him entertaining and always looked forward to his matches. I loved it whenever he did his bobblehead thing.
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iLikeMidgets posted:This Nation of Domination talk has got me wondering. What happened to him after WWE? quote:And what is everybody's opinion of him? I found him entertaining and always looked forward to his matches. I loved it whenever he did his bobblehead thing.
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I don't know you can count D-lo as doing the frog splash at that time. If a wrestler splashes on Velocity and no-one sees it, did he take a bump?
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D-Lo had a fun TNA run as a world champion contender. I recall him having a real good cage match vs AJ Styles. I always loved him slightly cheating with the chest protector doing the Lo Down. And that he had two finishers with the cool Sky High powerbomb too.
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