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Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

InequalityGodzilla posted:

See when someone said they didn't have street names I thought it was a pretty good idea. Then someone else popped in and said they don't even have street numbers so there was that good idea gone. I kind of figured they must have some ingenious system but Nope! Numbered by build order. As someone who get's lost easily I imagine traveling in Japan to be my own personal hell.

Street names did exist during the Occupation, though. They were abandoned in the mid-fifties, once the Allies had left.

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
A few of the main streets in every town I went to had names, the rest is a different system that frankly is not THAT much worse than having arbitrarily named streets going all over the place.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

berzerker posted:

Not really. Go gather the final-year PhD students from the top ~5 history schools, have them elevator pitch their dissertation topics, choose the top 24 (or however many episodes/year) most telegenic ones. Infinite free material, and it's going to be a lot more interesting than you might imagine. There's a podcast similar to what I'm describing I've listened to lately (https://historicaloutreach.blogspot.com) that's like that for UC Berkeley history PhDs, and there are other ones for Cambridge and other places. Episodes include relations between Vikings and Charlemagne the Great, Protestants as a force for liberal policies (pro-UN, pro-Civil Rights, for progressive taxation, etc) in the 1940s-50s US, countries trying to steal each others' industrial technology. Those would make interesting TV, even if most of the lesson each week was just "look how insane the past is and how different yet similar these people are to us." There's no more a shortage of great history stories to tell than there are fiction stories.

So like Drunk History, but sober.

Not that it's a bad idea at all, and since I've upped my playback speed to 1.8x in Pocketcasts I've got room for one more podcast :yayclod:

InequalityGodzilla
May 31, 2012

Samurai Sanders posted:

A few of the main streets in every town I went to had names, the rest is a different system that frankly is not THAT much worse than having arbitrarily named streets going all over the place.
Look, I won't be satisfied until we've torn down every city in America and rebuilt them more along the lines of a Battleship grid.

It might sound dystopian to say you live in apartment 305 in building 2, block T4 but dammit if it wouldn't be organized!

FAUXTON posted:

Not that it's a bad idea at all, and since I've upped my playback speed to 1.8x in Pocketcasts I've got room for one more podcast :yayclod:
Do all of your podcasts sound like Alvin and the chipmunks now? Serious question.

Dapper Dan
Dec 16, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

berzerker posted:

There's no more a shortage of great history stories to tell than there are fiction stories.

Some are even better than fiction, because actual history is insane. It makes me sad that all we get are 'manufactured reality show garbage drama #562' instead of 'the Ottoman Empire used to have an executioner who would chase you through a hedge maze. If you reached the end of the maze, you were free. If you weren't, he'd loving strangle you to death. Only three people ever reached the end of the maze. The executioner was called the Head Gardener.' That's what a world spanning empire used to execute people and it wasn't for comedy, it was serious loving business. Much more interesting than some dumb hicks who live in the mountains.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Dapper Dan posted:

Some are even better than fiction, because actual history is insane. It makes me sad that all we get are 'manufactured reality show garbage drama #562' instead of 'the Ottoman Empire used to have an executioner who would chase you through a hedge maze. If you reached the end of the maze, you were free. If you weren't, he'd loving strangle you to death. Only three people ever reached the end of the maze. The executioner was called the Head Gardener.' That's what a world spanning empire used to execute people and it wasn't for comedy, it was serious loving business. Much more interesting than some dumb hicks who live in the mountains.

:stare:

That is the most :black101: job known to man, I'm pretty sure

That Old Tree
Jun 24, 2012

nah


Dapper Dan posted:

Some are even better than fiction, because actual history is insane. It makes me sad that all we get are 'manufactured reality show garbage drama #562' instead of 'the Ottoman Empire used to have an executioner who would chase you through a hedge maze. If you reached the end of the maze, you were free. If you weren't, he'd loving strangle you to death. Only three people ever reached the end of the maze. The executioner was called the Head Gardener.' That's what a world spanning empire used to execute people and it wasn't for comedy, it was serious loving business. Much more interesting than some dumb hicks who live in the mountains.

Bizarrely similar to what a future civilization might say about our idiot hicks on reality TV. :smith:

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

InequalityGodzilla posted:

Do all of your podcasts sound like Alvin and the chipmunks now? Serious question.

No. It doesn't affect the pitch. It does something like removing bits so you're literally hearing the same pitch but for less time. It makes certain music sound a little odd (specifically things with long tones like classical music) but for spoken word it doesn't change anything.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
Well, other than that everyone talks fast as gently caress, but yeah if you're at a crunch for podcast time upping the speed is pretty solid.

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...
Game of Thrones ain't got poo poo on real history.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
I will join the chorus supporting your effort posts. they are a good catalog of why I hate this loving country.

GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:

Game of Thrones ain't got poo poo on real history.

game of thrones has dragons real history does not

point game of thrones

Dapper Dan
Dec 16, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Magres posted:

:stare:

That is the most :black101: job known to man, I'm pretty sure

Yeah. One of them apparently strangled five thousand loving people over the course of three years.


Plague of Hats posted:

Bizarrely similar to what a future civilization might say about our idiot hicks on reality TV. :smith:

True :(

ufarn
May 30, 2009
Game of Thrones has based its most famous scenes on actual events, so. Gurm also gets to wrap it nicely together and add dragons, so.

Dude likes his Middle-Age English history.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


Joementum posted:

Somerset, Kentucky had a problem: the small fishing town had too high gas prices and for some weird reason The Market wasn't keeping the price down through competition, so the Mayor came up with a solution: open a public gas station with the price pegged to the regional average. Needless to say, not all of the local merchants are impressed.


Excellent comparison, Mr. Mason, since milk is a commodity which has been under national price control (SOCIALISM!!!) for over seventy years.

Confession time: this is my hometown.

The entire county's gas infrastructure is owned by a single wealthy individual, who also happens to bankroll half the town. The socialized gas station is an attempt by the mayor to break the gas baron's hold on the political scene. The wealthy gas station owner has threatened to give the mayor's political opponent in this year's election a million dollars if he promises to close the city gas pumps.

The gas station is also, hilariously, working perfectly; gas came down 30 cents per gallon the day it opened.

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...

ufarn posted:

Game of Thrones has based its most famous scenes on actual events, so. Gurm also gets to wrap it nicely together and add dragons, so.

Dude likes his Middle-Age English history.

I know, and nothing he wrote ever came close to the sheer :whoptc: that was the European MA.

KIM JONG TRILL
Nov 29, 2006

GIN AND JUCHE

Dapper Dan posted:

Some are even better than fiction, because actual history is insane. It makes me sad that all we get are 'manufactured reality show garbage drama #562' instead of 'the Ottoman Empire used to have an executioner who would chase you through a hedge maze. If you reached the end of the maze, you were free. If you weren't, he'd loving strangle you to death. Only three people ever reached the end of the maze. The executioner was called the Head Gardener.' That's what a world spanning empire used to execute people and it wasn't for comedy, it was serious loving business. Much more interesting than some dumb hicks who live in the mountains.

Can we replace lethal injection with this? We already can't get the chemicals and then we'd at least make the executioner earn it. Also, put it on PPV.

SavageBastard
Nov 16, 2007
Professional Lurker

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

Confession time: this is my hometown.

The entire county's gas infrastructure is owned by a single wealthy individual, who also happens to bankroll half the town. The socialized gas station is an attempt by the mayor to break the gas baron's hold on the political scene. The wealthy gas station owner has threatened to give the mayor's political opponent in this year's election a million dollars if he promises to close the city gas pumps.

The gas station is also, hilariously, working perfectly; gas came down 30 cents per gallon the day it opened.

Correct me if I am wrong, but socialism involves the state owning the means of production. A publicly owned gas station is not in and of itself a "socialist" enterprise, especially since it has private competition.

This is a great example of how government is at times required to create a fair marketplace. Opening a publicly owned station wasn't the only option but there was presumably a reason that nobody else had opened a private station.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

SavageBastard posted:

Correct me if I am wrong, but socialism involves the state owning the means of production. A publicly owned gas station is not in and of itself a "socialist" enterprise, especially since it has private competition.

This is a great example of how government is at times required to create a fair marketplace. Opening a publicly owned station wasn't the only option but there was presumably a reason that nobody else had opened a private station.

Probably get kneecapped if you open a station there without the protection of the city government. When the entire infrastructure is owned by one man, there tend to be physical restraints, not market restraints.

SavageBastard
Nov 16, 2007
Professional Lurker

anonumos posted:

Probably get kneecapped if you open a station there without the protection of the city government. When the entire infrastructure is owned by one man, there tend to be physical restraints, not market restraints.

Or he'd just pay you off or threaten your other interests. I'm not blind to the possibilities of what those reasons may be I just can't speak to the specific facts of why nobody has done it.

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...

SavageBastard posted:

Correct me if I am wrong, but socialism involves the state owning the means of production.

Wouldn't that also make most absolute monarchies socialist as gently caress?

Hutter
Feb 16, 2011

It's been giving me nightmares.
I am no expert in the subject, but I think the name for that is state capitalism, or command economy?

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

SavageBastard posted:

Correct me if I am wrong, but socialism involves the state owning the means of production. A publicly owned gas station is not in and of itself a "socialist" enterprise, especially since it has private competition.

This is a great example of how government is at times required to create a fair marketplace. Opening a publicly owned station wasn't the only option but there was presumably a reason that nobody else had opened a private station.

THE FREE MARKET HAS DECIDED that the gas is too drat high.

I've been listening to a lot of MF Doom, and he has a bunch of Fantastic Four interstitials. One of them includes Dr Doom exploiting some capitalist moron to take over the world. When did the whole notion of capitalists = geniuses come back into vogue?

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Phone posted:

When did the whole notion of capitalists = geniuses come back into vogue?

Since they could pay people to trumpet their achievement, go on about their brilliance and the colossal girth and heft of their penises?

So a long time.

I'm always amused at how a friend of mine who was mildly conservative (one of those socially liberal, economically conservative types) started working as an auditing accountant for Ernst&Young, and after six months he was abosulotely terrified at the things he saw routinely. "They have no clue about what they do and the poo poo they pull. They are morons. Well-connected morons that can pay others to pretend to be morons too."

If you have any self-honesty left, a dip into the pool of raw capitalism works better at making you a raging liberal than all the Chomsky in the world.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

Phone posted:

When did the whole notion of capitalists = geniuses come back into vogue?

Deserved or not, it was probably when they were the last man standing out of the competing economic philosophies in the last century. One particular strain of economic thought that they sent to the junkyard is rather popular in this subforum, I hear. :pcgaming:

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...

DeusExMachinima posted:

Deserved or not, it was probably when they were the last man standing out of the competing economic philosophies in the last century. One particular strain of economic thought that they sent to the junkyard is rather popular in this subforum, I hear. :pcgaming:

Libertarian cryptofascism? I thought we purged that, but then you posted.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Sephyr posted:

If you have any self-honesty left, a dip into the pool of raw capitalism works better at making you a raging liberal than all the Chomsky in the world.

[ASK] me about how working in private equity turned me into a socialist

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
I appreciate new threads each month because I can never keep caught up, and it gives me a point of reference to give up and start over.

SavageBastard
Nov 16, 2007
Professional Lurker

Phone posted:

THE FREE MARKET HAS DECIDED that the gas is too drat high.

I've been listening to a lot of MF Doom, and he has a bunch of Fantastic Four interstitials. One of them includes Dr Doom exploiting some capitalist moron to take over the world. When did the whole notion of capitalists = geniuses come back into vogue?

Since the conservative movement took hold 40 years ago? Also, don't get lost in the "it's true because it rhymes!" of rap lyrics. I loves me some hiphop but don't confuse compelling artist expression with worthwhile economic and social policy.


AreWeDrunkYet posted:

[ASK] me about how working in private equity turned me into a socialist

Those who can go yachting. Those who can't go socialist.

SavageBastard fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jul 27, 2014

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

zoux posted:

Does anyone have that chart of incarceration rate by country except it breaks out individual US states?

Three days late, but here

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

Confession time: this is my hometown.

The entire county's gas infrastructure is owned by a single wealthy individual, who also happens to bankroll half the town. The socialized gas station is an attempt by the mayor to break the gas baron's hold on the political scene. The wealthy gas station owner has threatened to give the mayor's political opponent in this year's election a million dollars if he promises to close the city gas pumps.

The gas station is also, hilariously, working perfectly; gas came down 30 cents per gallon the day it opened.

I love it when private enterprise has to face real competition, and they bitch and moan about how unfair that is that they must compete in a free market. The only moral monopoly is my monopoly.

anne frank fanfic
Oct 31, 2005
Finally, the gun ban in DC has been struck down. How come any gun bans exist at all in this country anymore? Is this the middle ages? Has literally no one learned that gun laws equal lost elections? The one thing democrats shouldn't have done after taking over congress and the white house was go after guns, and instead they went after guns immediately and lost the majority in congress and in Colorado. Why are people so dumb when there's obvious constitutional human rights at risk?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

anne frank fanfic posted:

Finally, the gun ban in DC has been struck down. How come any gun bans exist at all in this country anymore? Is this the middle ages? Has literally no one learned that gun laws equal lost elections? The one thing democrats shouldn't have done after taking over congress and the white house was go after guns, and instead they went after guns immediately and lost the majority in congress and in Colorado. Why are people so dumb when there's obvious constitutional human rights at risk?
To celebrate, people should carry handguns around in front of the White House and other government buildings. I am sure a good time will be had by all.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

This is going to go well.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
Post count: -22,542

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Fried Chicken posted:

Remember how, back when it was originally advertised, the Discovery Channel was basically going to be Cosmos style shows educating people on physics, chemistry, biology, ecology, geology, astronomy, and cosmology 24/7? And the History Channel was going to be educational documentaries about the forgotten parts of history like the Hanseatic League or the Irish Banking Crisis, and virtual tours of historical significance to places most people couldn't go, like the Pazyryk tombs and the statues of the Gupta Empire?

Now it is mermaids and ancient aliens.

Because in the end they exist to make money and, just like TLC learned with Here Comes Redneck Hillbillies: Georgia Edition, more people want to watch that crazy bullshit than actual informative shows, and their ratings are much higher now as a result.

Joementum posted:

Somerset, Kentucky had a problem: the small fishing town had too high gas prices and for some weird reason The Market wasn't keeping the price down through competition, so the Mayor came up with a solution: open a public gas station with the price pegged to the regional average. Needless to say, not all of the local merchants are impressed.


Excellent comparison, Mr. Mason, since milk is a commodity which has been under national price control (SOCIALISM!!!) for over seventy years.

Gas prices have controls on them too I thought? I know when major storms have hit some gas stations tried to price gouge people and got fined heavily for it.

Jagchosis posted:

I will join the chorus supporting your effort posts. they are a good catalog of why I hate this loving country.


game of thrones has dragons real history does not

point game of thrones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragon

We have dragons too, even if they didn't get to go around wrecking armies in the War of the Roses. :colbert:

Though in ASOIAF these would be more like the wyrms that lived in the Valerian mines and volcanic areas I guess.

Besides, while ASOIAF had dragons it didn't have Satan Jesus and his Devil Disciples like FFT did.

KIM JONG TRILL posted:

Can we replace lethal injection with this? We already can't get the chemicals and then we'd at least make the executioner earn it. Also, put it on PPV.

The Running Man called and wants its plot back.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Evil Fluffy posted:

Gas prices have controls on them too I thought? I know when major storms have hit some gas stations tried to price gouge people and got fined heavily for it.

I think there are laws limiting the number of price changes per day.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Evil Fluffy posted:

Gas prices have controls on them too I thought? I know when major storms have hit some gas stations tried to price gouge people and got fined heavily for it.

Anti-gouging laws during emergencies are pretty much the extent of price controls on gasoline. Those vary state by state like most things in the US though. Once in a while the federal government will release some of the strategic fuel reserve if it appears that short-term factors (read: middle east instability) are responsible for higher prices, but for the most part prices are market drive + taxes.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

So is this like an Illuminati thing, where it's a secret but they're still in charge?

Samurai Sanders posted:

To celebrate, people should carry handguns around in front of the White House and other government buildings. I am sure a good time will be had by all.

DC Circuit Court posted:

As the Seventh Circuit stated in Moore v. Madigan, 702 F.3d 933 (7th Cir. 2012), “[a] blanket prohibition on carrying gun[s] in public prevents a person from defending himself anywhere except inside his home; and so substantial a curtailment of the right of armed self-defense requires a greater showing of justification than merely that the public might benefit on balance from such a curtailment, though there is no proof that it would.” Therefore, the Court finds that the District of Columbia’s complete ban on the carrying of handguns in public is unconstitutional.

And until they get a formal carry law passed, it's unregulated (outside of secure buildings ofc). If any public officer tries to stop you, it's a civil rights suit! :)

DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jul 27, 2014

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

DeusExMachinima posted:

So is this like an Illuminati thing, where it's a secret but they're still in charge?



And until they get a formal carry law passed, it's unregulated (outside of secure buildings ofc). If any public officer tries to stop you, it's a civil rights suit! :)

As I understand it, cryptofacism is basically "thinking fascists are evil while simultaneously holding values that are perfectly in line with fascism."

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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

McDowell posted:

I think there are laws limiting the number of price changes per day.

In nearly all states, gas stations are limited to changing their price once day, occasionally some states allow changes twice per day. But they don't have much regulation beyond that, other than restrictions on how much prices can change during and around declared emergencies.

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