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Microcline posted:I will admit that despite being unnecessary from a plot and gameplay perspective, the robot persona cars are pretty  personified, and then the other two are "so ridiculous it's awesome" and "so ridiculous it's horrible.Which is which varies depending on your tastes.
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ApeHawk posted:The scene at the end of the video perfectly encapsulates the horrible development the story of the game had. First you have Sazh and Vanille alone, with him presumably about to shoot her, then he doesn't because he is still in shock over Dajh's crystallization and her role in it. His grief turns into an eidolin, after which you see him happily riding in his new ferrari. Then he points his gun at Vanille AGAIN for some reason, only to fake us out AGAIN and he goes to commit suicide with the fade to black before hearing a gunshot. If those cutscenes were vaguely reversed then it would actually kind of make sense. Sazh doesn't want to kill Vanille, tries killing himself, then his eidolon shows up and tries to kill Vanille and he's all NOPE then they have the talk about, well, living ain't right and dying ain't right so all you can do is keep going until you find out what is.
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I'm starting to feel as if they had like 5 different writers for every 10 minutes of plot.
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 Update 24: Aerodynamics 101 with Motomu Toriyama Part 1 (Polsy) Part 2 (Polsy) Music Primarch Dysley Can't Catch a Break Bestiary        Datalogs  quote:The Sanctum Skyfleet quote:The Palamecia quote:Time to Split Man, I love character bios that have had like one sentence changed!   quote:People: 'Lightning' Farron  quote:People: Sazh Katzroy  quote:People: Hope Estheim  quote:People: Oerba Dia Vanille  quote:People: Bartholomew Estheim New poo poo resumes here!  quote:The Thirteen Days: Day 1 - Awakening quote:Cocoon Society: The Palamecia Artix fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Aug 22, 2014 02:57
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gently caress you Earthbound is fun as hell. I wish more games would do the scrolling hp meter thing. EDIT: Good video, though. Really good job at emphasizing how loving boring Final Fantasy 13 is
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Aug 22, 2014 03:19
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I'm pretty sure Rygdea wasn't kidding with the "I'll land this ship on you" comment. He wasn't trying to hide who he was, he was pulling a Snow. Battle-wise...you should be glad Tornado Kick is not kicking you out of battle. God knows I hated that in Final Fantasy X. Also, there's nothing Dragoon-like about the PSICOM Dragoon. What the hell, Final Fantasy XIII? Give me enemy Kains or don't bother with that name! Thank you for being considerate for us American viewers, Fedule. I knew what Lylat Wars was but it still sounds weird when I'm completely accustomed to Star Wars 64 (awesome game, by the way). Also you're probably thinking of Dragon Quest, not Final Fantasy. Dragon Quest VIII was the first released in Europe, skipping all the previous ones. In the first battle of the second video, did you bypass the Paradigm Shift scene by having Fang in the air? It played only on the second Shift. Finally, Sazh missing buttons is funny. For a game with such gigantic attention to quality on graphics alone, it's hilarious when it fails at even that.
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Aug 22, 2014 03:59
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Blaze Dragon posted:In the first battle of the second video, did you bypass the Paradigm Shift scene by having Fang in the air? It played only on the second Shift. Yeah, it only plays the shift cutscene if you have everyone on the ground. You can skip it by having someone in the air, but then it'll just play it the next time you shift.
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Aug 22, 2014 04:03
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Code Plaid! I repeat, we have a Code Plaid! It's nice to actually have three party members at least? Until you go back to Sazh and Vanille YET AGAIN, such a tease. New commentator is almost as bitter as Fedule, it's impressive. I hope you bring him back at some point. How do you hate 3D World and Earthbound? 
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Aug 22, 2014 04:46
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This is the lamest trap ever. "First we'll lure them to our ship. Then we'll overwhelm them by sprinkling two or three weak soldiers at a time every couple hundred feet. The kind of soldiers they've slaughtered hundreds of by now. It's perfect!" Also, it seems like the game was sort of loving with the player during that part on the pointless exterior walkways. Hope: "They've parked some ships here! Maybe we can use them?" *Player desperately hopes for some sort of ship-flying minigame* *Lightning simply uses one as a step-stool to climb to more of The Hallway* *Player weeps*
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Blaze Dragon posted:Battle-wise...you should be glad Tornado Kick is not kicking you out of battle. God knows I hated that in Final Fantasy X. Also, there's nothing Dragoon-like about the PSICOM Dragoon. What the hell, Final Fantasy XIII? Give me enemy Kains or don't bother with that name! 'Though named "dragoon", the Japanese name (literally "PSICOM Aerial Dragoon") clearly refers to the historical mounted infantry units rather than the "Dragon Knights" of the Final Fantasy series.'
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I love how that elevator you called down didn't even lower all the way down. Somebody who couldn't leap three metres into the air could never use it. And then it went up and stopped between levels, so you had to leap again just to get off. What I'm saying is, no wonder the crew wear jetpacks.
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Aug 22, 2014 04:59
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On the al bhed siren in FF10 I finally looked up what it translated to. My initial thought was that it could have been "Emergency" or in Al Bhed "Alahkirsa" with emphasis Ala-h-kir-sa. But it turns out it is a command. "Everybody Under" or "Ajanoputo Ohtan!". Just got curious 
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Aug 22, 2014 05:03
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As a kid playing FFX i always heard that guy going "I'm annoying,HA!" like he knows he's being annoying and you can't do anything about it.
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The piece of music you've been calling Sazh's Theme is actually Can't Catch a Break. This is Sazh's Theme.
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Spikey posted:The piece of music you've been calling Sazh's Theme is actually Can't Catch a Break. This is Sazh's Theme. It might as well be Sazh's Theme (Part 2), but regardless, we already know. It's labelled correctly way back in Chapter 4 when Sazh's Theme actually plays and Can't Catch a Break pretty much plays everywhere else. Bellmaker posted:New commentator is almost as bitter as Fedule, it's impressive. I hope you bring him back at some point. How do you hate 3D World and Earthbound? Hey, hey, new guy hates Pikmin 3 and 3D World. I'm the one who hates Earthbound. Artix fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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Aug 22, 2014 05:35
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It was briefly touched on in the video, but that Royal Armlet you
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Nomadic Scholar posted:I'm starting to feel as if they had like 5 different writers for every 10 minutes of plot. FF13 really does feel like a collection of ideas that was forced together with enough time to make it look pretty but not enough to make it make sense.
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theblastizard posted:FF13 really does feel like a collection of ideas that was forced together with enough time to make it look pretty but not enough to make it make sense. So, FF8.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Star Wars 64 Are you talking about Shadows of the Empire, or Rogue Squadron? Come on now, Star Fox isn't that derivative. Also it's sad that not even Sazh is immune to FF13 syndrome. No, Sazh, Please don't do that Vanille act, we NEED you to be down to earth, not exaggeratedly optimistic.
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Regarding what we got in the EU, we didn't get Super Mario RPG until the Wii's Virtual Console release, same for Chrono Trigger, and Earthbound didn't arrive until the Wii-U, Paper Mario was the first Mario RPG we saw over here.
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theblastizard posted:FF13 really does feel like a collection of ideas that was forced together with enough time to make it look pretty but not enough to make it make sense. The entire trilogy has this problem, really.
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 And this is why everything sucks so much. e: And why do their menu portraits look so gormless? Like someone caught them on camera by surprise.
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Fedule is right, FF7 was definitely the first mainline series Final Fantasy Europe got. We might have gotten, like, Mystic Quest or something before that, but we did not get any of 1 through 6 until the PSX ports. (or DS remake for 3) We also didn't get Final Fantasy Tactics until the PSP port/remake, by the way. e: Okay, looked it up, we got the GB Mana game titled Final Fantasy Adventure in the US as Mystic Quest and we got the SNES Mystic Quest as Mystic Quest Legend. That's it, as far as I can tell, until the release of FF7 on the PSX. Admiral H. Curtiss fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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Huh, so this is in fact the first time Can't Catch a Break plays. I could have sworn that it shows up before this, but I can't find it in any of the other updates. Oh well, here it is. That's a pro fuckin' click right there, as is pretty much every music track directly related to Sazh. Rigged Death Trap posted:
Yeah, pretty much. I said it a bit earlier in the thread behind spoilers, but almost (if not literally) everything that happens in Final Fantasy 13 can be either directly or indirectly traced back to Vanille. Everything.
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This has to be my favorite chapter due to the upcoming fight at the end, partly because it is a fun fight but also because it has an awesome music going along with it.
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I caught up on this whole LP over the past week or so and this is pretty much where I'm at in the game. I'm also a Final Fantasy XIII apologist which isn't personally surprising to me since I also love FF8. But yeah, the points you bring up are all valid. The plot is awful and suffers from some of the worst pacing I have ever encountered in a narrative, not to mention the fact that the whole shindig is pretty much incoherent from beginning to end. That being said, I still like the game. It has a lot of potential to be super fun and it even achieves it for like...an hour. I can appreciate what they were trying to do but the execution of the actual game is god awful. But yeah, The Palamecia is a godawful dungeon. It doesn't help that some of the enemy groups coming up are frustratingly difficult. But maybe I'm just Bad At Video Games 
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Artix posted:Huh, so this is in fact the first time Can't Catch a Break plays. I could have sworn that it shows up before this, but I can't find it in any of the other updates. I think Can't Catch a Break plays during the Enki/Enlil boss in Chapter 6. It's definitely pro-click in any case, one of the best tracks in a game with a great soundtrack.
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Extra Tasty posted:I caught up on this whole LP over the past week or so and this is pretty much where I'm at in the game. I'm also a Final Fantasy XIII apologist which isn't personally surprising to me since I also love FF8. But yeah, the points you bring up are all valid. The plot is awful and suffers from some of the worst pacing I have ever encountered in a narrative, not to mention the fact that the whole shindig is pretty much incoherent from beginning to end. That being said, I still like the game. It has a lot of potential to be super fun and it even achieves it for like...an hour. I can appreciate what they were trying to do but the execution of the actual game is god awful. FF8 is just terrible all the way through.
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I honestly liked the Palamecia. I thought it felt suitably climactic since our heroes are finally taking it to Cocoon. After all the running around, after all the meandering, we're storming the Pope's ship. It just...dragged on too long. My hype at the beginning was pretty dead by the end. Also we have now met all the villains in the game. A grand total of....3. There are a lot of problems in this game but regardless of what you feel about the party or how well or not well they were handled, my biggest complaint about XIII was its cast of antagonists. Coming off XII (which arguably focused more on the antagonists than it did on the protagonists) I was really let down by the baddies in this game. Especially Jihl. I will go on record as thinking she is the worst character ever in an FF game. I have never found a character so remarkably unoriginal and unejoyable.
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So can anyone do a quick sum-up of what the hell is the Cavalry's deal? I must've lost that in the sea of stupidity.
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We don't know. They oppose the Fal'Cie-led Sanctum, and they're willing to aid Lightning and friends, but that's all we know about them.
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anilEhilated posted:So can anyone do a quick sum-up of what the hell is the Cavalry's deal? I must've lost that in the sea of stupidity. From what I've seen so far, the Cavalry's job is to do the planning, coordination, and heroics that would normally be done by the protagonists in any other JRPG. Their defining moment is when the game spends the whole Palompolum section hyping up not-Sephiroth as a villain and then he and his entire squad get killed by one anonymous Cavalry member while our literally superhuman protagonists cower in an apartment. It's not exactly a bad thing given that our protagonists' planning is normally "I'm going to ignore it and hope it goes away" "I'm going to bitch about it but not do anything" and "I'm going to do the most spectacularly dumb thing possible right now"
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Does Rosch honestly look like Sephiroth? I've been hearing this "not-Sephiroth" ever sine I played XIII about two years ago and admittedly my eyesight is lovely but I never saw it. I liked Rosch though. While it's true he was the obligatory Bad Guy Just Doing His Job, XIII is ridiculously simplistic and some shades of grey are appreciated.
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  They have practically the same hair (the bangs in front, not the back. And the unnatural silver). Also, they are pretty boys with the typical super-lean facial structure. I didn't really see it when playing the game myself (maybe because Sephy is really prominent in FF7 and you see Rosch like twice), but I get where people are coming from. Of course, their roles are really different.
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If anything, Rosch is more comparable to Ramsus from Xenogears. A handsome, well-spoken, silver-haired, sword-wielding, seemingly credible threat of a villain who is slowly undermined by the incompetence those around him and himself and whose single-minded obsession with killing the protagonists proves to be his undoing.
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Artix posted:I'm the one who hates Earthbound. So you like Final Fantasy 13 but hate Earthbound. I get it; you're from Bizarro World.
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Update 25: Oerba Dia Vanille's Pro Kalavinka Striker Fishing®™ (Polsy) To answer Fedule's question somewhat belatedly, the raw footage for this update and the last (which is like ~1:10 of video) comes out almost two and a half hours. 2:24:48, specifically. Bestiary    Datalogs quote:Luck Be a Lady
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Honestly, there's only one color that can encompass everything going on here. Everyone! Shift to CODE PLAID!
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Maybe being a l'Cie gives short-term memory loss, so they've all forgotten how Hope's dad pointed out that destroying the Sanctum was a stupid idea. And that switch to Code White sure was dramatic! Just a shame that it didn't actually do anything after the dramatic reveal. Assuming it ends up doing anything at all, they probably should've timed that better. At least I enjoyed the part where everyone talked about better Platinum games for ten minutes.
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Pretty sure Code White turns the ship's engines off or slows it down or something, but yeah, it's not explained other than being The Dramatic Master Code.
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