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Man, it'd be great if Dino Charge turned out completely different then the other Saban 2.0 seasons.
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One of the things that always bugged me about Kyoryuger is that the core five were introduced in different countries and cultures taming their Voltasaurs, but aside from the occasional English and Ian and Amy's names, it never came up. THis actually feels way more international and diverse, and our first African-American pink ranger to boot! In addition, it means it'll be harder to recycle stock footage, so they'll be forced to do original footage instead.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:05
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WickedHate posted:Man, it'd be great if Dino Charge turned out completely different then the other Saban 2.0 seasons. This is season 5 of Saban 2.0 so I predict it will start off terrible, pick up towards the end, and then seasons 6 through 10 will be gold for the most part, and the show gets purchased by Comcast/NBC/Time Warner as a flagship for a new kids network they make.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:15
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The fact that the only lady isn't a slice of white bread is pretty cool.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:17
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Solaris Knight posted:One of the things that always bugged me about Kyoryuger is that the core five were introduced in different countries and cultures taming their Voltasaurs, but aside from the occasional English and Ian and Amy's names, it never came up. THis actually feels way more international and diverse, and our first African-American pink ranger to boot! In addition, it means it'll be harder to recycle stock footage, so they'll be forced to do original footage instead. This may be stupid of me, especially if both the actor's origins and the ultimate story direction goes the other way, but it would certainly be less jarring (to some degree) for Red to have a Carnival mode if he turns out to actually come from South America.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:18
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He's no Nossan, but he looks alright.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:19
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Astro Nut posted:So, pictures coming out, showing the Dino Charge team: I don't usually mind when casts aren't that diverse because it's tv and it's almost always the same ol' same ol', but seeing this cast really makes me happy.  In general I like seeing the red ranger be a POC (those end up being the best seasons even with second half of turbo, SPD and RPM), but also the pink ranger is just extra nice. Now to pray that the season actually ends up good.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:21
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Astro Nut posted:This may be stupid of me, especially if both the actor's origins and the ultimate story direction goes the other way, but it would certainly be less jarring (to some degree) for Red to have a Carnival mode if he turns out to actually come from South America. THat might also help. We're still not sure if Gold will be a knight, but I'm not sure why he can't be a samurai too, especially after two seasons of samurai existing Liar Lyre posted:He's no Nossan, but he looks alright. Nossan is one of a kind, and I'll repeat that until I'm BLUE in the face.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:21
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Zedd posted:The fact that the only lady isn't a slice of white bread is pretty cool. Power Rangers used to follow the "two girls, one white and the other a PoC" trend, and whenever there was just one girl she was usually white, so yeah, I agree that it's nice that it's different now. It would have been nice to have a girl black or green though, so it is a bit of a shame there's just the Pink Ranger. The Cyan and/or Violet Rangers will probably be girls, but it'd have been more neat for the boy/girl colors to get shaken up.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:22
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The POC thing is important for people because kids look up to rangers as role models, and after having four seasons of the implied message of "Only white boys can be the Red", we have a more diverse lineup of representation, something people have wanted for years. For a show about teamwork and equality, PR can be unintentionally dismissive.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:28
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Well, it is the franchise that started things off with the black actor wearing the black ranger suit and the vietnamese actress wearing the yellow suit.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:32
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Well, it is the franchise that started things off with the black actor wearing the black ranger suit and the vietnamese actress wearing the yellow suit. Official word says that was unintentional. Will being the Black Overdrive Ranger and a self admitted thief with anger issues is much harder to justify however.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:34
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Solaris Knight posted:Official word says that was unintentional. Will being the Black Overdrive Ranger and a self admitted thief with anger issues is much harder to justify however.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:35
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Astro Nut posted:Cleanest pic yet: What happened to the legs of the guy in the back?
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Aug 23, 2014 22:36
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Another few advantages I realise, if they keep the whole 'global team members' aspect, are 1) They may not need to force an American accent, which could be easier on actors plus giving more weight to the idea of internationality 2) The characters themselves don't have to be conveniently all from California (okay, there's been a few exceptions on that, but you get the point). So more differentiation in backgrounds, origins, etc. Edit: ^ You can just see the faint outlines behind new red and old yellow's legs. Looks for the slight lines of black.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:40
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Inkspot posted:What happened to the legs of the guy in the back? In an effort to be more culturally diverse, Saban introduced the first Ecto-American Ranger!
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Aug 23, 2014 22:43
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Astro Nut posted:Another few advantages I realise, if they keep the whole 'global team members' aspect, are 1) They may not need to force an American accent, which could be easier on actors plus giving more weight to the idea of internationality I'm pretty sure the only/main reason people think Xander is the best/only notable Mystic Ranger is because he doesn't need to do a American accent AND act.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:45
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Solaris Knight posted:Official word says that was unintentional. Will being the Black Overdrive Ranger and a self admitted thief with anger issues is much harder to justify however. I think they were thinking "if a black person can never be black ranger, that's also racist" to which they have somewhat of a point, but then they said "he's also a thief". It's when you have multiple coolor = race it becomes a problem I think. If it had been just Zack is black and Trini was pink, or just Trini was yellow and Zack was blue, I don't think people would have cared. We ended up with a weird Asian or Hispanic male rangers are always black or green rule.
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Aug 23, 2014 23:24
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greatn posted:I think they were thinking "if a black person can never be black ranger, that's also racist" to which they have somewhat of a point, but then they said "he's also a thief". It's when you have multiple coolor = race it becomes a problem I think. If it had been just Zack is black and Trini was pink, or just Trini was yellow and Zack was blue, I don't think people would have cared. A lot of blue Rangers have also been asian. Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue, Time Force (?), Overdrive, and now Dino Charge.
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Aug 23, 2014 23:48
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Ah yeah. I guess that doesn't hold up. I was probably just thinking mainly of Adam, Carlos, and Danny., which is not even a third the series.
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Aug 24, 2014 00:10
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Basically every ranger color has been racially diverse over the years.
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Aug 24, 2014 00:13
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Solaris Knight posted:The POC thing is important for people because kids look up to rangers as role models, and after having four seasons of the implied message of "Only white boys can be the Red", we have a more diverse lineup of representation, something people have wanted for years. For a show about teamwork and equality, PR can be unintentionally dismissive. I'm so thrilled about this new team. I've been wanting a black pink ranger since I was 7!
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Aug 24, 2014 00:44
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The Pink Space Ranger was Asian and I think the Wild Force White was Hispanic, but other then that, yeah, I think most if not all Pink Rangers were white and it's weird to only just now realize that. It blew my mind as a kid when Ninja Storm came out and Yellow was a boy and Blue was a girl. They'd been changing Yellow into a girl for a while up to that point regardless of the color's gender in the Sentai(including visibly making the Yellow Galaxy Ranger's breasts disappear when she morphed), but they couldn't get around it when Hurricanger Blue had the skirt.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:03
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WickedHate posted:The Pink Space Ranger was Asian and I think the Wild Force White was Hispanic, but other then that, yeah, I think most if not all Pink Rangers were white and it's weird to only just now realize that. Overdrive, Mystic Force, Samurai, Megaforce had a non-white Pink.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:12
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Tae posted:Overdrive, Mystic Force, Samurai, Megaforce had a non-white Pink. Ah, see, aside from an episode or two of Samurai and Megaforce, I stopped watching after SPD.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:20
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The weirddest in a cool way thing about Mystic Force is that everybody but Udonna and Chip is Ambiguously Brown, and it made things feel more exotic, for lack of a better term, made things feel more diverse, like I hope Dino Charge does.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:31
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Solaris Knight posted:The weirddest in a cool way thing about Mystic Force is that everybody but Udonna and Chip is Ambiguously Brown, and it made things feel more exotic, for lack of a better term, made things feel more diverse, like I hope Dino Charge does. Well, Nicks actor was of Lebanese descent. Madisons actor is of Filipino, Spanish and Ukranian descent. I'm not sure about Vidas or Xanders actors but I would guess Latin American and Greek respectively. Testekill fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Aug 24, 2014 |
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Aug 24, 2014 02:31
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Solaris Knight posted:The weirddest in a cool way thing about Mystic Force is that everybody but Udonna and Chip is Ambiguously Brown, and it made things feel more exotic, for lack of a better term, made things feel more diverse, like I hope Dino Charge does. Oh sure, cast the white lady as the White Ranger. 
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Aug 24, 2014 02:55
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Hey now, the first white ranger was a native American! Apparently!
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Aug 24, 2014 02:58
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Gaz-L posted:Oh sure, cast the white lady as the White Ranger. The whitest lady.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:01
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I don't know what John Tui is (Except for dashing  ) but he at least looks more Arabic than Hikaru's actor, so it feels less of a disconnect to have a mech that's genie themed and carrying a magic lamp.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:06
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Solaris Knight posted:I don't know what John Tui is (Except for dashing I honestly didn't see anything arabic about him. He's just super Maori.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:15
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Testekill posted:I honestly didn't see anything arabic about him. He's just super Maori. A Maori person still looks more Arabic then a Japanese person.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:22
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I don't think Temuera Morrison looks any more like Osama bin Laden than does Oba Kenji, but maybe I'm just racially insensitive 
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Aug 24, 2014 03:44
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Let's just track it all: Red: White, Hispanic, "Native American", Black, White, White, White, White, Puerto Rican, Samoan, White, Trinidadian/Grenadan, Lebanese, White, Black, White, White Yellow: Asian, Black, White, Black, White, White, White, Black, Brazilian, White, White, White, White, White, White, White, White Blue: White, Black, Hispanic, White, Black, Asian, Asian, Filipino, Black, White, Black, White, White, Filipino/Hispanic, Asian, Asian, White, Black, White Pink: White, White, Asian, White, White, White, White, White, Hispanic?, Filipino, Asian, (?) Black: Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, Hispanic, "Native American", Black, White, Hispanic? Green: "Native American", Asian, Hispanic, Hispanic, Black, Asian, Asian, White, White, White, Hispanic White: Native American, White, Hispanic, Hispanic, White, White, White So the whitest ranger color is actually Yellow, and the least white ranger is actually Blue. Red is actually split about evenly. Actually I didn't count dino charge, so it is split exactly evenly between white/nonwhite. I also didn't count Quantum Red or Crimson Red, which also evens out. I also didn't include various sixth rangers in this list like Silver, Mercury, Titanium, Gold etc unless they were specifically the "X color" ranger. Though that seems to be mostly white, with a dog in there.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:47
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greatn posted:
And a half-feline alien 
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Aug 24, 2014 04:09
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Sockser posted:And a half-feline alien Thinking about this just makes me wish they had bothered to bring over Datas or Navi.
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Aug 24, 2014 04:15
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Try and tell me a robot parrot or monkey woudln't be less stupid then Tensou.
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Aug 24, 2014 04:26
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Solaris Knight posted:Try and tell me a robot parrot or monkey woudln't be less stupid then Tensou. I mean, they brought over Saba. There's definitely precedent.
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Morby posted:I mean, they brought over Saba. There's definitely precedent. I think the season would flow better if they used the Sky Ship for Gokai Galleon footage, add in Navi, and say Tensou's body got destroyed with the Shore Centet. Gosei hosed off into something, I don't care Andrew Grey said we'll get explanations for things later in the season at Morphicon, and I want to trust him so bad 
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