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For comparison sake here is the stream for the original version of Utopia (Dutch) which is in month 9 with 3 more to go. It started Jan 1 of this year and will wrap on Dec 31. These people have a hot tub and full home furnishings. I don't know what they did to earn their income but it appears they are completely self sufficient and have been for quite a while. I don't foresee our mix of numbskulls ever getting to that point. http://www.utopiatv.nl/live
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Starsfan posted:well the money that was given to them has been referred to as "seed money" so I think the expectation is that they will invest that into some sort of business to create a living for the people at the farm. Maybe at the end of the day they'll make some real money seeing as everything they need has been provided to them free of charge. They'll probably just buy seeds.
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Sep 8, 2014 22:01
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Ahahaha, the Libertarian is a massive shitlord. He's bragging about how he would have shot the ex-con had he tried to rob his house, because he's a law abiding citizen. I don't think he understands the law.
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Sep 8, 2014 22:14
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Jersey Libertarian is my favorite character. He's ranting about the need for always carrying guns to a skeptical crowd.
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Sep 8, 2014 22:14
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TMMadman posted:Even if I was an atheist, I think I'd rather have a few bibles around than deal with that meditation stuff. I know mediation can be actually useful but it can also be so pretentious too. Plus if you don't take it as actual gospel, the Bible can be read as an interesting story. Oh I agree; Hex so far fits how I'd treat it. Plus, something to read, yay. I'd take a whole church over jersey libertarian.
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Sep 8, 2014 22:37
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If they really wanted to make money, they already have a tremendous and unique resource in that anyone in "utopia" can be seen by tons of people live streaming online and possibly appear in the t.v. episodes. Just advertise the idea, whether on the show/stream itself or by putting the word out on the internet during a town visit, that you can come on to utopia for a day and teach the group something, or meet and greet the group, or talk about Obummer with the 'merica guys or whatever. It's likely that Fox won't allow that, but given how far they've gone with the "Here's some money, do whatever you want to try to make more!" premise maybe they'd be cool with it. Maybe they can at least get T-shirts from sponsors and wear those often. In terms of stuff that would absolutely be allowed, just grow crops and build stuff. One guys a carpenter, have him make chairs or benches or something. I actually like the Yoga idea because it combines the tourism-y aspect of visiting utopia with an actual skill to be taught. Put the rest of the unskilled labor on hunting duty during deer season, maybe a bit of fishing (though 400 fish will go pretty fast, so it's not particularly sustainable), or have them learn/apprentice under someone who knows their poo poo. Put the people who get along with each other on the same work tasks, repeat for a year. Of course, they're going to waste their money, fight and screw each other, and it'll be an absolute trainwreck. Should be fun.
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Sep 8, 2014 22:56
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DakkaUT posted:I dunno about lawyer guy, I haven't seen him do anything but run the "trial" and even that was pretty poorly done. to be fair I don't think he was taking it seriously, and everytime there is trouble I love how he just disappears and is no where to be seen. He seems like he is just screwing around and having fun
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Sep 8, 2014 22:57
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Just tuning into the live stream...Who the hell is this blonde chick talking with the libertarian shitlord? She wasn't on the show last night unless I missed her...Is she a new member?
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I feel like Utopia is the singularity of over a decade of reality tv. EDIT: Alt post: It's pretty much Sex House. Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Sep 8, 2014 23:37
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Because of the casting the show already feels really trashy and familiar but I think at least the very first couple seasons (if it makes it that far) could be really interesting. I wish they had been clearer about the rules the cast have to live by and when the producers will intervene or assign goals. Depending on how flexible the concept is, it would be interesting to see if a group will faction up at any point and try to seize control. If they just had one self-aware person who just wanted to gently caress with the others and turn the place into a totalitarian hellhole or something that would make some goddamn must-see TV. As it is, it just feels like my freshman common room on a farm.
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Also Bella is one of the most amazing characters I've ever seen on TV (like a completely batshit Laura Dern from Enlightened) and I would watch a spin-off just about her (and the chicken tractor).
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Sep 9, 2014 00:54
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I think they Ned an Imam on the show, let's see if we can get the Pastor to commit a hate crime. Also no way these idiots get to the leave of the dutch show.
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Brocktoon posted:Also, I don't understand, if they have money and can go outside the compound to get food and supplies, how are they "creating a new society"? Sounds like they're just participating in the one we already have. At that point it's just the Real World without the swanky house. Well they only get $5k. After that is gone, they are on their own. That's not enough money to sustain 15 people for very long.
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Utopiamadness.com is reporting that Not-Vet Bri and Guitar Guy Chris did the deed in the barn behind the hay bales sometime over the weekend while Polyamourous Dedeker and Lawyer Mike have moved on to giving each other handies while tucked in their sleeping bags. So, if you had bet money on Bri/Chris being the first Meanwhile, Dedeker has floated the idea to Bri to consider being open to the possibility of sharing Chris with her. Mike was not amused by this.
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Robnoxious posted:Utopiamadness.com is reporting that Not-Vet Bri and Guitar Guy Chris did the deed in the barn behind the hay bales sometime over the weekend while Polyamourous Dedeker and Lawyer Mike have moved on to giving each other handies while tucked in their sleeping bags. The poly bullshit is going to blow up faster here then it does in real life.
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Anorexic Robot posted:to be fair I don't think he was taking it seriously, and everytime there is trouble I love how he just disappears and is no where to be seen. He seems like he is just screwing around and having fun Agreed, and it's what I'd try to do if I was there. Doesn't make him any less bad though.
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NowonSA posted:In terms of stuff that would absolutely be allowed, just grow crops and build stuff. One guys a carpenter, have him make chairs or benches or something. I actually like the Yoga idea because it combines the tourism-y aspect of visiting utopia with an actual skill to be taught. Put the rest of the unskilled labor on hunting duty during deer season, maybe a bit of fishing (though 400 fish will go pretty fast, so it's not particularly sustainable), or have them learn/apprentice under someone who knows their poo poo. Put the people who get along with each other on the same work tasks, repeat for a year. They talked about some of that on the live stream. They cant do much in the way of hunting/building for sale since they're in California and there are a hell of a lot of restrictions/laws regarding that kind of stuff. The answer they seemed to have come to was Yoga/Fitness classes, since it appears the holistic medicine lady (not bella) is a certified yoga teach and the military private chef is a certified personal trainer.
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Lampsacus posted:So she isn't an MD? Nikki strikes me as those quacks that treat migraines by wearing pyramid hats and meditation and drinking alkaline water. Nikki is no more a "doctor" than Scientologists are experts of mental well being through their snake oils and parlor tricks. In her intro she made an effort to say how she could balance people's chakra and another assorted horseshit. Accredited doctors don't tend to spout nonsense like that, unless they get accredited from the same school as Dr. Nick from The Simpsons. If she's a doctor then Miss Cleo is bona-fide psychic. Robnoxious fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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Lampsacus posted:So she isn't an MD? Nope. She's a "holistic doctor", whatever that is. Sounds like a term even Chiropractors with their "Doctorate in Chiropractic (D.C.)" can make fun of.
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I just got done watching episode one and I'm already disappointed. This is just a year of outback big brother, right? Popularity contests and scripted bullshit? I was really hoping for something better, though I'm not sure why since its a fox reality tv show. Shockingly, a bunch of people with diametrically opposed ideologies don't get along. I would have preferred fifteen libertarians, or fifteen socialists, or fifteen holistic doctors, just trying to make a go at creating whatever their ideal society would look like and failing miserably. Instead we have a group of tards arguing for an hour and then having sex. Which we've already seen about a thousand times. Edit: I would pay a monthly subscription fee to see fifteen goons from D&D on this farm. Digital Prophet fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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Gawain The Blind posted:I just got done watching episode one and I'm already disappointed. This is just a year of outback big brother, right? Popularity contests and scripted bullshit? I was really hoping for something better, though I'm not sure why since its a fox reality tv show. Although it does seem to follow a formula: 1. Fight. 2. Niceness and moral high ground arms race. 3. Do a chore. 4. Sit around in a hippy circle and make terrible jokes together (e.g. 'one of us, one of us'). 5. ??? 6. Repeat.
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Robnoxious posted:I doubt it. This is the kind of stuff that they could sell really well in Utopia provided they try to set it up as a crazy hippy land or even as a cult. They should go that route.
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Nikki is actually a MD. Well, I think she's a DO. She's an intensivist and has privileges at some hospital. I was watching the live feeds and and someone in the chat linked to her information page at, I believe, a hospital out of New York.
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Lava Lamp Goddess posted:Nikki is actually a MD... I guess I was wrong.  http://www.drnikkinoce.com/ quote:She received her Medical Degree from New York University School of Medicine and completed her internship at NYU Medical Center. I thought she was just some nut job certified "healer". She's a nut job certified healer with an MD. Still wonder why high potential earning professionals like her and the New York lawyer are taking a year off to do this "experiment".
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Should we be using spoiler tags for stuff happening in the stream? Rhonda, the middle aged tea partier was voted out in favor of Kristen. No current members were booted today because they kicked Dave the ex-con out a few days ago.
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Rancid Liverwurst posted:I guess I was wrong. I wonder how someone graduates medical school, completes an internship, and passes boards can still buy into snake oil? I'm sure most people that would be willing to be on reality TV for a year would give preference to getting on TV and potential fame to working for a year.
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sleepingbuddha posted:I wonder how someone graduates medical school, completes an internship, and passes boards can still buy into snake oil? For the same reason that you can find anti-vaxx doctors. Being an MD doesn't guarantee that a person can disseminate all bullshit. Is she definitely a snake oil peddler or is she just kind of a hippie who prioritizes nutritional wellness? I'm not seeing any "natural medicines" or anything on her site.
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Yeah, that's not nearly as bad as an anti-vaxxer doctor.
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Gawain The Blind posted:Edit: I would pay a monthly subscription fee to see fifteen goons from D&D on this farm. I can imagine this going one of two ways. 1) An actual utopia is created and at the end of the year the 15 goons ascend to a higher dimension of existence or 2) 11 goons huddle around the campfire at the end of the first week, grasping their sharp sticks and rocks in their hands and trying not to be the first guy to fall asleep. So has it been established how much contact with the outside world is permitted? Like from what I understand from reading the thread they are allowed to leave *for the day* but they aren't allowed to invite anybody else in?
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Starsfan posted:Like from what I understand from reading the thread they are allowed to leave *for the day* but they aren't allowed to invite anybody else in? As far as inviting people in they may not be able to specifically invite their friends and family but if they do this yoga/fitness thing they are considering for a business the people that sign up for the class(es) will be allowed on the compound. It's different than say Big Brother or Survivor where they are removed from any social interactions with anyone else not affiliated with the show. They aren't completely removed from society. What surprises me is that no one has suggested buying one of those doomsday wind-up solar charging radios. They don't have to be completely removed from the rest of world even though they seem to be doing that by choice. Heck, even a simple NOAA weather radio would be helpful for gardening and planning for the season changes or daily activities. These clowns so far are prepared for gently caress-all. Where they are at is prone to very gusty winds and soon the overnights will be quite chilly dropping into the low/mid 30's easily as soon as Fall/Winter fast approach. Robnoxious fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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Robnoxious posted:Yeah being gone from the compound longer than some pre-established amount time keeps you gone, you ain't getting back in. From what I can tell there's nothing really stopping them from buying appliances that would let them connect with the outside world. They've mentioned on the livestream that eventually they want to get a computer and do advertising for their hypothetical business online. But they're avoiding spending money on anything remotely frivolous until they're bringing in cash. It will be interesting to see how things go if they make enough money to start affording other modern amenities (a TV, cable, Bella's dreaded microwave). Will some of the crazier ones flip out if they start having entertainment activities other than gardening, swimming, and fooling around with each other?
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I think a television would be a no-go. Imagine how far through the looking glass we'll be watching a stream of the Utopians watching themselves on television. Production has to keep somethings behind the curtain.
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I want a couple of the guys to convince the others they really need a couple computers. And then install some sweet LAN games and chill out in the barn all day. At first, the others cuss them out for lazing around. But one by one they are seduced by the charms of Diablo II and CS. Soon we are watching the world's longest LAN party.
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The Libertarian would probably try to turn their business into a bitcoin operation.
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Sep 10, 2014 01:04
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"Guys we should get the electricity running before dark so-" "I HATE DEMOCRACY"
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