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RodShaft posted:I have 2 9 hour drives coming up, and thought I should listen to some Who. I'm looking for suggestions. Well, if you like Douglas Adams, get Shada, by Douglas Adams, starring Paul McGann and Lalla Ward. http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/shada-451
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Oh, and here's Tom Baker, from 4:30, and hopefully we can extend "a moment" through the cutaway to the scene starting 6:55, as well. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9cx4d_the-robots-of-death-part-5_shortfilms From extremely silly to deadly serious and back again, in the blink of an eye. Fundamentally challenging the way people think, opening their eyes and minds. Gently but insistently guiding Poul towards the truth. And the way he just walks off and leaves Leela there. He doesn't need to ham, or gurn, or shout, although he can do all those things as well. Effortlessly alien, but totally compelling. This is why although all of them may be wonderful chaps, he'll always be the best.
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Sep 18, 2014 21:43
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Spikeguy posted:I wanted to ask ya'll something because I greatly enjoy hearing the responses. Can you list the defining moment for each Doctor? By that I mean, the scene or action or plot point that you think defines that particular Doctor or the thing that you think characterizes the Doctor the most? Gave it some thought... - First Doctor: the speech when he's alone in the TARDIS at the end of The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve. - Second Doctor: trying to defend himself to the Time Lords in The War Games. - Third Doctor: when he tries cheering up Jo in The Time Monster. - Fourth Doctor: the "Have I that right?" speech in Genesis of the Daleks. - Fifth Doctor: the conversation with Stotz in the cliffhanger to episode three of Caves of Androzani. - Sixth Doctor: yelling at the Time Lords about how corrupt they are during Trial of a Time Lord. - Seventh Doctor: probably the "There will be no battle here!" speech in Battlefield. - Eighth Doctor: his speech to Sentris when he sacrifices himself at the end of Neverland. - Ninth Doctor: "Everybody lives!" in The Doctor Dances. - Tenth Doctor: his conversation with the Krillitane by the pool in School Reunion. - Eleventh Doctor: the "Hello Stonehenge!" speech from The Pandorica Opens.
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Sep 18, 2014 21:49
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Listen is the best episode of this season so far, in my opinion. It was so good, I was able to follow along with no problem even though I was distracted from the realization that Jenna's right eye is higher than her left eye. I like Clara's 'oh poo poo what have I done' reaction when she grabbed the kid's leg from under the bed. I think I missed the part of what was in Pink's bedspread, though.
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Sep 18, 2014 21:49
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Doctor Butts posted:
The episode pretty heavily implies that it actually is just another one of the boys having a bit of fun with Pink. He's probably scared into staying under the blanket himself when he realizes there are strange adults in the room and takes the opportunity to leave when they turn away.
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Sep 18, 2014 21:52
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Doctor Butts posted:Jenna's right eye is higher than her left eye. Now I can't unsee it you monster!
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Sep 18, 2014 22:17
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Gordon Shumway posted:Gave it some thought... I'd agree with most of these. I do think it's funny that no-one can agree on one for Seven at all. We've had like 5 or 6 different suggestions. Ten is particularly inspired, and I'd very much agree.
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Sep 18, 2014 22:18
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Bicyclops posted:It'd be easy to say it's the "One day, I shall come back" speech for One, but I actually think it's when he's about to leave after Dodo runs off and Polly and Ben stumble in. There's that change in his expression and speech when he talks about how he thought that for once he was truly going to be completely alone. For Six, I would vote for the "Nobody wants you. Nobody needs you. Nobody....CARES!!!" quote from Timelash. I don't know, that just defines Six for me, still in his aggressive and arrogant phase.
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Sep 18, 2014 22:26
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Bicyclops posted:It'd be easy to say it's the "One day, I shall come back" speech for One, but I actually think it's when he's about to leave after Dodo runs off and Polly and Ben stumble in. There's that change in his expression and speech when he talks about how he thought that for once he was truly going to be completely alone. Yeah this is an incredible moment, and often forgotten due to coming from a "lost" episode. It's delivered incredibly by Hartnell, and Bradley did a good job redoing it in An Adventure in Space and Time where it was used to showcase Hartnell's own loneliness and fear about being left behind/discarded.
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Sep 18, 2014 22:26
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Gaz-L posted:I'd agree with most of these. I do think it's funny that no-one can agree on one for Seven at all. We've had like 5 or 6 different suggestions. Seven just has so many good lines. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but another candidate might be his conversation with Davros in Remembrance of the Daleks. "Unimaginable power! Unlimited rice pudding! Etcetera, etcetera!"
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Sep 18, 2014 22:43
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DoctorWhat posted:The Marian Conspiracy, The Spectre of Langyon Moor, The Holy Terror, Jubilee | Storm Warning, The Chimes of Midnight, Seasons of Fear | Spare Parts | and The Fearmonger. Heyo, what doctor is this and what do I need to know about him?
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Sep 18, 2014 22:52
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RodShaft posted:Heyo, what doctor is this and what do I need to know about him? First bunch is the Sixth Doctor and you don't need to know anything apart from his wardrobe. Second bunch is Eight and you need no info. Spare Parts is Five, and knowing who Adric is and what happened to him adds to the story. Fearmongeris Seven and it stands alone, mostly.
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Sep 18, 2014 22:55
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RodShaft posted:Heyo, what doctor is this and what do I need to know about him? The | between sets indicate a different Doctor/arc. In order from DocWhat's post, it's the Sixth Doctor, mostly with Evelyn; the Eighth with Charley; Fifth with Nyssa and Seventh with Ace. Six and Eight, he's starting you with their first stories with those companions, so you basically don't need to know anything beyond the premise of the series, which you already do.
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Sep 18, 2014 22:56
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Psybro posted:Can't find it on Youtube but I think 'Oh look, rocks!' is Four's defining moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0bCSLx8JI
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Sep 18, 2014 23:05
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Thanks, all I could find was many, many people's speed metal covers of the theme music.
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Sep 18, 2014 23:19
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Maybe this is only me, but whenever I think of Eleven, I think of his reaction to Craig's football friend saying they'd "destroy" another team in The Lodger. It was so true to the Doctor's idealism, but also showed that yeah, this guy is an alien. I think it's little moments little that where the Doctor is defined.
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Sep 19, 2014 00:11
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TL posted:Maybe this is only me, but whenever I think of Eleven, I think of his reaction to Craig's football friend saying they'd "destroy" another team in The Lodger. It was so true to the Doctor's idealism, but also showed that yeah, this guy is an alien. I think it's little moments little that where the Doctor is defined. I can get behind this. Its a little fluffy throwaway moment, but it really encapsulates his attitude. I also like that bit at the town of Christmas where he admits that all of his crazy grand plans are him claiming he knows what to do but is just waiting for something to happen that he can take the credit for.
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Sep 19, 2014 00:14
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jivjov posted:I can get behind this. Its a little fluffy throwaway moment, but it really encapsulates his attitude. Most of The Time of the Doctor is wonderfully representative of 11.
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Sep 19, 2014 00:20
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PoshAlligator posted:Most of The Time of the Doctor is wonderfully representative of 11. A man who lies a wooden cyberman into setting itself on fire. ...Yeah, that's basically 11 for you.
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Sep 19, 2014 00:23
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jivjov posted:I can get behind this. Its a little fluffy throwaway moment, but it really encapsulates his attitude. And he completely follows through on that to the bitter (actually happy!) end, when he totters on up to see the Daleks and laughs at them for still being scared of him even though he's obviously got no plans and is admitting as much to them. They just can't bring themselves to believe him because he ALWAYS has something up his sleeve, and that hesitation and their own bluster ends up being their downfall. Shugojin posted:A man who lies a wooden cyberman into setting itself on fire. I like how he dealt with the truth field after getting used to it. He never actually lies the whole time he's there, he just is very careful about only telling so much of the truth. He tells Clara he needs her to go do something in the TARDIS that will help him without mentioning that will be returning her to her own time and planet. He never actually tells the Cyberman he reversed its weaponry, just that he COULD have done it. He assures the young man he mistakes for the little kid from centuries earlier that he has a plan, and he does, but that plan is that he has no idea what to do now so he's just going to see what happens.
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Sep 19, 2014 00:29
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I don't dislike the intro, aside from feeling the gears are a little.. What? We've reached twelve doctors, and there's twelve hours on a clock, so a clock face theme fits at least for this season. The big fat roman numerals remind me of Final Fantasy logo nostalgia more than the various Doctors, but I'm not complaining. The way it unravels with a bunch of planets zipping around fits the "time and space" idea. It's as subtle as a hammer to the head, but it's fine.
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Sep 19, 2014 00:49
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Android Blues posted:Seven just has so many good lines. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but another candidate might be his conversation with Davros in Remembrance of the Daleks. "Unimaginable power! Unlimited rice pudding! Etcetera, etcetera!" "Let me guess. My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie."
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Sep 19, 2014 01:07
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People make a lot of Tom being quotable, but Sylvester got so many good lines! 
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Sep 19, 2014 01:51
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I'm guessing the bearded guy in War Games is supposed to be The Master despite never being named.
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Bicyclops posted:Big Finish Five also has a weird existential crisis when he talks about seeing his own regeneration before it happened and also seeing older incarnations of himself that aged more than they should have done. Look, I'm probably never going to listen to this, could you or someone give me the gist of what five said? That's very interesting..
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Sep 19, 2014 01:53
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Irish Joe posted:I'm guessing the bearded guy in War Games is supposed to be The Master despite never being named. 
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Sep 19, 2014 01:57
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In a word: Maybe.
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Sep 19, 2014 01:59
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Irish Joe posted:I'm guessing the bearded guy in War Games is supposed to be The Master despite never being named. Officially, he's not. But even as a kid I assumed he was and so do a lot of other people. So he's the Master if you want him to be the Master.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:01
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John Peel says he's the Master, but Peel also wrote War of the Daleks so I'm not sure he gets a vote.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:03
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About half way through Spare Parts, apparently the Doctor talking to horses is a recurring thing.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:07
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ProfessorLoomis posted:Look, I'm probably never going to listen to this, could you or someone give me the gist of what five said? That's very interesting.. Sure, I suppose I could say a little more about it, maybe pull up the Doctor Who reference guide to fill in the gaps in my memory, wh- ProfessorLoomis posted:No, I'm starting to think alot of you guys are socially inept shuttins.. imagine that.. Actually, let me direct you to Google dot com.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:08
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Clocks are the laziest most pedestrian thing to have in the opening for a programme about time travel. It's like a medical drama having stethoscopes whirling around as the title sequence. Also the stethoscopes thing would actually be awesome so there.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:18
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Bicyclops posted:Sure, I suppose I could say a little more about it, maybe pull up the Doctor Who reference guide to fill in the gaps in my memory, wh- Aw, I thought me and you were okay bicyclops.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:20
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Pizdec posted:For much of the show the character of Doctor WHO wore a coat with a question mark on it and clocks are featured all the goddamn time. This isn't Hannibal, the show has never been much for subtelty in its symbolism. You're welcome to propose a less plebeian abstract representation of time though. "much of the show" = roughly 1980 to 1989, out of a run that was roughly 26 years or so (give or take)
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Sep 19, 2014 02:22
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I know Doctor What really loves the coat, but I have to agree with Lalla Ward and Tom Baker that those question marks should never have been on the show.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:24
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Bicyclops posted:I know Doctor What really loves the coat, but I have to agree with Lalla Ward and Tom Baker that those question marks should never have been on the show. They weren't even on the coat IIRC. Baker, Davison and Baker all wore them on the collar of their shirts, I believe. And McCoy had them on his sweater vest and that umbrella handle (both of which he protested against, in vain). E: Also clocks have never been a recurring motif or whatever in DW now that I think about it, either. There may have been the odd episode here or there where a clock might feature for whatever reason, but I don't remember it being like a thing of DW that clocks are prominently featured.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:26
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Bicyclops posted:I know Doctor What really loves the coat, but I have to agree with Lalla Ward and Tom Baker that those question marks should never have been on the show. Well the question marks are on the shirt, not the coat, so... e:f,b
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Sep 19, 2014 02:27
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Sydney Bottocks posted:And McCoy had them on his sweater vest and that umbrella handle (both of which he protested against, in vain). Also his "calling card."
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Sep 19, 2014 02:30
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Sydney Bottocks posted:And McCoy had them on his sweater vest and that umbrella handle (both of which he protested against, in vain). Ah, McCoy wanted the umbrella handle. He just thought the jumper was excessive.
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Trin Tragula posted:Ah, McCoy wanted the umbrella handle. He just thought the jumper was excessive. I'm glad to hear that. I love that silly brolly.
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