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The one thing I remember liking from Dust Breeding was the detail about the crashed Dalek ship not having really anything to with the plot. Unlike say Sword of Orion where the Cyberman head is a blatant note that the Cybermen show up later.Bicyclops posted:he seemed like he was a bored child who didn't understand why she would want to go on a date with a boy instead of have a wacky fun adventure. With a boy other than him, the nerve! I really wish the Doctor this season was written less like a spoiled child towards his companion.
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I think it's very fitting for the doctor to wonder why you'd want to go on a boring old date rather then adventures in time. Now the execution could have been a little better but ill take it.
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Sep 24, 2014 01:53
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Potsticker posted:
Why, he's basically Gregory House but played
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M_Gargantua posted:I think it's very fitting for the doctor to wonder why you'd want to go on a boring old date rather then adventures in time. Now the execution could have been a little better but ill take it. It wouldn't be so bad if it was framed that way and not out of romantic jealousy. And especially not after how he acted similarly in Robot of Sherwood and Listen. The scene with Clara literally mothering the frightened child Doctor was additionally eye rolling.
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Sep 24, 2014 02:05
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M_Gargantua posted:I think it's very fitting for the doctor to wonder why you'd want to go on a boring old date rather then adventures in time. Now the execution could have been a little better but ill take it. Yeah, I agree. I think it was perfect until that last line "Beat that for a date!" which kind of implies that's what his adventure in time was. But him being the nagging, excited little bro who's like "No, don't go out with your boyfriend, instead play pirates with me in my time funhouse!" is perfect. edit: speaking of Time Heist in particular, not the season at large
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Bicyclops posted:1) Ms Delphox is a stock Moffat character that has worn out its welcome. He needs to expand his understanding of how women in authority look, sound and act. Was she Missy? Older Moffat Women are so interchangeable that I can only tell them apart by hair, and the hair looked similar.
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Sep 24, 2014 03:40
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Cleretic posted:Was she Missy? Older Moffat Women are so interchangeable that I can only tell them apart by hair, and the hair looked similar. They're portrayed by different performers, both of whom appear to have talent, but yeah, you've hit on what I mean. They seem to be written very similarly in terms of their mannerisms.
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Sep 24, 2014 04:01
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Delphox was cliche bureaucracy while Missy is cliche simmering insanity. I think it's more the makeup than anything.
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Oh Christ. She's going to be Missy. I BET you. Or at least some version/iteration/clone of her will. If she isn't then...gently caress I don't KNOW. But the reason I think she might be? She has the Doctor's Number. The one that is given to Clara.
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I'm actually quite hopeful for the Missy storyline, forcing The Doctor to meet up with people who died (or at least, would have died) due to him seems pretty interesting. It hasn't been very well-handled so far though. Come to think of it in Time Heist we had two people who we thought were disintegrated but who actually teleported, that seems like another hint.
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Sep 24, 2014 04:19
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I'm actually quite hopeful for the Missy storyline, forcing The Doctor to meet up with people who died (or at least, would have died) due to him seems pretty interesting. It hasn't been very well-handled so far though. I think Missy's the Rani, or at least a Time Lord. Iirc, didn't the Dalek antibody that snagged the soldier have a red lens instead of blue? Theoretically, a fully-functional "modern" TARDIS could look like whatever it wanted and contain just about anything within. Just hiding her TARDIS within his to tag along wherever the Doctor goes.
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Speaking of McCoy audio adventures, I picked up The Fearmonger on the thread's recommendation the other day. I'd forgotten how much fun Seven and Ace are, even when dealing with a British version of Morton Downey Jr. Plus there's a line how the Doctor worked with UNIT "back in the 70s." 
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Sep 24, 2014 07:00
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Yeah, it's remarkable just how good it is considering it's such an early Big Finish, but it really does feel like a natural extension of their televised adventures.
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Toxxupation posted:Doctor Who presented without comment, except that i read that thread with rapt attention
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DoctorWhat posted:presented without comment, except that i read that thread with rapt attention "The Time Traveller's Wife" he's loving with us, he's got to be
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Sep 24, 2014 08:58
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Autonomous Monster posted:"The Time Traveller's Wife" man if this turns out to have been a toblerone triangular-esque long con, it'd be rad as hell
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M_Gargantua posted:I think it's very fitting for the doctor to wonder why you'd want to go on a boring old date rather then adventures in time. Now the execution could have been a little better but ill take it. Also at one point he apparently turned down a date in favour of inventing a new type of screwdriver, which really says it all about his priorities.
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Sep 24, 2014 11:29
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Yvonmukluk posted:Also at one point he apparently turned down a date in favour of inventing a new type of screwdriver, which really says it all about his priorities. Except the Doctor's wording implies it was a date in his eyes, so he clearly has a competitive streak with Danny, which is actually the exact wording the script uses.
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah, I agree. I think it was perfect until that last line "Beat that for a date!" which kind of implies that's what his adventure in time was. But him being the nagging, excited little bro who's like "No, don't go out with your boyfriend, instead play pirates with me in my time funhouse!" is perfect. Or if you read it as being an exasperated dad who doesn't understand why his daughter wants to go out and spend time with  BOYS rather than hanging with him, and is desperately trying to be cool to compensate.But the writing does really do a bad job of selling that reading, which is a pity.
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Whybird posted:Or if you read it as being an exasperated dad who doesn't understand why his daughter wants to go out and spend time with Because it's the exact opposite of how you should be reading it. They made a big deal in Deep Breath about how the Doctor looked young, but he was really this nigh ancient creature and finally he looks it. That's true, but the opposite is also true - Twelve is an old(er) man, but he's also a child. He's only existed for a few weeks/months, and the first person he saw in this form -Clara - is his mother figure. Capaldi's not acting like a dad that doesn't understand his daughter, he's acting like a child that wants his mom all to himself but doesn't really value her when he has her.
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computer parts posted:Because it's the exact opposite of how you should be reading it. They made a big deal in Deep Breath about how the Doctor looked young, but he was really this nigh ancient creature and finally he looks it. That's true, but the opposite is also true - Twelve is an old(er) man, but he's also a child. He's only existed for a few weeks/months, and the first person he saw in this form -Clara - is his mother figure. Nope, he's acting like a child who calls the girl he fancies mean names. If it wasn't a date he would've said "How can a date beat that" but he doesn't, he says "Beat that for a date". He clearly views what he's doing with Clara as dating, he says so himself in the dialogue and the script gives Capaldi the direction to act jealous and competitive when he delivers the line. Twelve is in love with Clara.
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Sep 24, 2014 13:01
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I think you may be reading too much into a throwaway joke.
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PriorMarcus posted:Twelve is in love with Clara. Nah actually he isn't.
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Jerusalem posted:Nah actually he isn't. "I'm not your boyfriend Clara." A better way to look at him is the fact that he really has reset to One. The best way to describe him in the relationship is a stern Grandfather. Would you want your eccentric old grandad to meet the guy you're dating? Poking fun at all those luxuries like the high-heels and extra mirrors. Why, in his millennium...
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I don't know if Twelve is poking fun at high heels so much as he literally does not understand them, and is baffled as to why Clara has special shoes to make her taller. He's a very abstract man.
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Sep 24, 2014 13:46
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Is this the first time that a companion has started dating someone while they’re still travelling with the Doctor? I’m not counting Amy/Rory because when she actually left with the Doctor, they were already engaged.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:A better way to look at him is the fact that he really has reset to One. The best way to describe him in the relationship is a stern Grandfather. Would you want your eccentric old grandad to meet the guy you're dating? Poking fun at all those luxuries like the high-heels and extra mirrors. Why, in his millennium... And that means next season we'll get "pyromaniac anarchist prankster"! 
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think you may be reading too much into a throwaway joke.
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Sep 24, 2014 14:22
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Jet Jaguar posted:Plus there's a line how the Doctor worked with UNIT "back in the 70s." But early or late 70's? This is important!
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CobiWann posted:Is this the first time that a companion has started dating someone while they’re still travelling with the Doctor? That probably means hes going to get kidnapped, killed, or turns out to be the next Face of Boe.
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PriorMarcus posted:
I think that's taking it a little far. I do think they were trying to move away from the romance side of him with "I'm not your boyfriend, Clara" and allowed it to die a slow death over the Robin Hood episode. The joke at the end of Time Heist is more a problem with unfortunate wording. I have hope that next episode will be about Clara drawing some boundaries and they'll make it clearer that he wants her around because he's going through an identity crisis and needs somebody to hang out with for his adventures.
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah, it's remarkable just how good it is considering it's such an early Big Finish, but it really does feel like a natural extension of their televised adventures. It's too bad that, aside from "The Fires of Vulcan" and "Collditz" (off the top of my head), none of Seven's audio stories out of the first fifty are entirely up to snuff. I don't think they achieve the same degree of consistency as, say, Six's adventures, until Hex arrives in "The Harvest".
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Yeah, they bounce around between Seven and Mel doing a drama The Fires of Vulcan, a comedy Bang-Bang-A-Boom!, and a story with a unique plotting style and really uncomfortable immigrant overtones Flip Flop. Then there’s Seven/Ace picking up from the end of the show (The Fearmonger, The Genocide Machine, Dust Breeding, Colditz, The Rapture). And The Rapture is SO bad, that the big plot point of Ace having an older brother is NEVER brought up again in continuity. And then there’s the two “sideways” stories in The Shadow of the Scourge/The Dark Flame. It isn’t until Hex shows up that the stories focus solely on Seven/Ace/Hex, and their chemistry is SO good, and Hex fills the sibling spot SO well. I still enjoy McCoy with Big Finish, it just took a lot longer for him to find his footing. Plus, they had to have Ace “grow up” into Dorothy so in-her-40’s Sophie Aldred wasn’t still playing a teenager.
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CobiWann posted:
Kudos to her for playing a teenager so well, though. Hearing her is incredible, it's like they put her into a time capsule and pulled her out when they started doing Big Finish.
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Bicyclops posted:Kudos to her for playing a teenager so well, though. Hearing her is incredible, it's like they put her into a time capsule and pulled her out when they started doing Big Finish. As I understand it, she's an established voice actress and loves doing 'characters' - I guess her far younger self counts as one of them. You are right though, she is very good at what she does. FWIW, though, I never got the impression she's that much older in the audios. Mid-twenties, maybe. Especially considering Hex's relationship with her.
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CobiWann posted:Yeah, they bounce around between Seven and Mel doing a drama The Fires of Vulcan, a comedy Bang-Bang-A-Boom!, and a story with a unique plotting style and really uncomfortable immigrant overtones Flip Flop. "Bang-Bang-A-Boom!" and "Flip-Flop" would have been very good if the former had been able to decide what it was actually trying to parody, and the latter had cut out a lot of the subtext surrounding the Poor, Blind Slithergees.
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I dunno, I still get a chuckle out of the Eurovision jokes and the gag about the doctor swooning over the captain.
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Craptacular! posted:• And lastly, I'm a gay dude but Coleman's fashion this episode was eye catching (though I'm one of those douchebags who doesn't like women in heels because double-standards rant here.) Eye candy for straight guys that also works on gays, that's pretty impressive.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Eye candy for straight guys that also works on gays, that's pretty impressive. She's no Danny Pink, obviously. 
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The_Doctor posted:She's no Hex, obviously.
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