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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Only just got my first hi-potion and I'm doing Ahgrabah to get Jaffar (I guess) now.

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HGH
Dec 20, 2011

Sakurazuka posted:

I mean are sleights like ever useful? All they seem good for so far is making sure I have no cards left in my deck halfway through a boss fight and just using them in singles (apart from maybe sacrificing one or two for the higher magic spells) seems way more effective. I guess maybe when I have more CP and have poo poo loads of cards to use I can see it being better but they just suck at the start.

On top of other people's advice, if you ever want to use a Sleight, it's a good idea to have a Premium card be the first one in the combination. After all, you're not gonna be able to reload it anyway, so might as well use it in an efficient way.

Also Fatal Frame and Omnislash/Sonic Blade destroy the game.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Macaluso posted:

Sora. He totally replaces Haley Joel Osmontwhatever

I know now...KINNNGGGDOOOMM HEEEARRRTTTSS...is LIGHT! SUPREEEEEME LIGHT! COME LIGHT!

J-Spot
May 7, 2002

Sakurazuka posted:

I mean are sleights like ever useful? All they seem good for so far is making sure I have no cards left in my deck halfway through a boss fight and just using them in singles (apart from maybe sacrificing one or two for the higher magic spells) seems way more effective. I guess maybe when I have more CP and have poo poo loads of cards to use I can see it being better but they just suck at the start.

Take the sleights until you get Lethal Frame. I don't know if it works as well outside of easy mode but you can pretty much take down any boss by building a deck designed to spam it over an over again.

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Butt Ghost posted:

It is, which is why I just spammed sleights. But then I ran out of cards and had to just rely on countering with zeros. I would have avoided sleights altogether by using standard attacks, but it's such a pain scrolling over to a zero card or making another sleight right when a boss uses their sleight.
I'm okay with this.

Pressing Up on the d-pad will instantly take you to the Reload spot of your deck. I kept my zeroes at the end, so all I'd have to do is hit Up, then one card to the left to fire off a zero.

You can also set a bookmark in your deck when building it. Pressing Down on the d-pad will skip to the bookmark. I put a bookmark on my Cure cards so I could reach them instantly.

Sakurazuka posted:

I mean are sleights like ever useful? All they seem good for so far is making sure I have no cards left in my deck halfway through a boss fight and just using them in singles (apart from maybe sacrificing one or two for the higher magic spells) seems way more effective. I guess maybe when I have more CP and have poo poo loads of cards to use I can see it being better but they just suck at the start.

Early game, no, they are bad

Later in the game, if you abuse Sleights you'll have two decks. A generic battle deck with super-powerful sleights to clear the field (Tornado is one of the first big screen-clearing ones you get). And a boss deck that goes Stop>Attack>Attack over and over for a while so you can spam Lethal Frame, the most powerful move in the game. As a bonus, if you reload the deck it'll turn into just a bunch of attack cards together (and if you have a mega-ether or elixir or whatever, you can get those Stops back). Lethal Frame murders most bosses really cheaply, including every org member. Some of the disney ones like Ursula can survive it because her hitbox is all weird.

Spiffo fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Oct 16, 2014

Chickenfrogman
Sep 16, 2011

by exmarx
I had a deck full of nothing but Ars Arcanum plus Jafar. Only Marluxia could actually survive long enough for Jafar to run out.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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Marluxia is actually very resistant to Lethal Frame because he teleports around like a motherfucker. Can't Stop what you can't catch.

Also Sleights are pretty useless in the GBA version.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Except Jafar was even more broken in that version because sleights didn't count as attacks so you could do unbreakable Ars forever.

Mischitary
Oct 9, 2007

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

It really says something when Birth by Sleep ends up with all of its protagonists in a bad state, both Days and Coded end with its protagonists losing all of their memories of their important friends, and the worst game ending for Sora was temporarily being split up from Riku and Kairi while still being with Donald and Goofy while also being content in the knowledge that Riku was with Mickey and Kairi was safe at home.

That's not to say Sora hasn't gone through hard times (Chain of Memories in particular), but it usually works out well by the end of the game.

I think it comes down to KH1/2 both being made so that they could be the end of the series. After KH2, it seems like the guys at S-E gave Nomura the go-ahead to make three games (Birth by Sleep, Days, and Coded) with the agreement, unspoken or spoken, that a KH3 would get made eventually. This made it so that he could actually plan the story multiple games in advance this time around, so that there didn't need to be a happy ending in BbS or Days because there would be one in KH3. I don't think that 3D was originally part of this and that the story in 3D was originally something that would've been touched on in KH3 but KH3 never started development because for the longest time they had the idea that Tetsuya Nomura would eventually release Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

maou shoujo
Apr 12, 2014

ニンゲンの表裏一体
In KH1's Neverland, Donald flies upward by spinning his tail like a propeller. :3:

aghastly
Nov 1, 2010

i'm an instant star
just add water and stir

J-Spot posted:

Take the sleights until you get Lethal Frame. I don't know if it works as well outside of easy mode but you can pretty much take down any boss by building a deck designed to spam it over an over again.

I can definitely confirm that a deck like this works on Proud.

Mischitary
Oct 9, 2007
My favorite part of KH1 is weirdly the part where you get to fly around Big Ben after you beat Neverland. It always seemed so weird that they put that part in there, and even gave it it's own music, when it really served no purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKhoB7xGpmc

It's the only place in Neverland where you actually feel like you're flying. I say they need to bring back Neverland for KH3 just to get the flying right.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

Mischitary posted:

My favorite part of KH1 is weirdly the part where you get to fly around Big Ben after you beat Neverland. It always seemed so weird that they put that part in there, and even gave it it's own music, when it really served no purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKhoB7xGpmc

It's the only place in Neverland where you actually feel like you're flying. I say they need to bring back Neverland for KH3 just to get the flying right.

If by "serving no purpose" you mean "was host to a kickass boss fight," yeah.

Mischitary
Oct 9, 2007

alcharagia posted:

If by "serving no purpose" you mean "was host to a kickass boss fight," yeah.

Well yeah EVENTUALLY. But originally Phantom wasn't even in the game. Unless they planned him and then cut him out. I personally think they just thought that there wasn't a good place to put the Keyhole in a world that is basically just a pirate ship on the open seas and if they put it on Neverland proper people would say to themselves "why wasn't the whole level on Neverland?"

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

Mischitary posted:

Well yeah EVENTUALLY. But originally Phantom wasn't even in the game.

This is news to me, considering I got my rear end kicked by him back in, like, 2003 or whenever.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Edit: Nevermind, I'm mistaken.

The new bosses were Sephiroth, the desert rear end in a top hat and the Ice Titan.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Oct 17, 2014

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

The US release of KH1 did at some new content. I don't know if Phantom was one of them, especially since Stopga is hidden behind it.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Oh wow, didn't know that.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
I wonder how old the real life Kurt Zisa is now. (He won a contest and got a boss named after him)

He's probably pretty jazzed about seeing his name again in the HD version. pretty cool stuff

Excels fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Oct 17, 2014

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Phantom was in the original JP KH1. Kurt Zisa, Sephiroth, and Ice Titan were added for the US KH1. Final Mix attached a keyblade to the Ice Titan and Sephiroth who also got an extra cutscene with Cloud.

That is the history of the KH1 secret bosses.

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


It served a purpose. The clock on Big Ben followed your in-game timer, and every hour a different door opens with a good item in it.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
The cutscene they added was badass, though. Cloud/Sephiroth showdown.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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Dude, can you just imagine the KH3 Sephiroth fight? Man, if we don't get the entire FF7 cast as party members for that one fight I'm going to give KH3 a 9/10.

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Gologle posted:

Dude, can you just imagine the KH3 Sephiroth fight? Man, if we don't get the entire FF7 cast as party members for that one fight I'm going to give KH3 a 9/10.

Sephiroth is going to be one of the good guys, wait and see

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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The final seven party members are going to be descending down into the realm of darkness to confront the 13 Xehanorts, who have of course already acquired Kingdom Hearts and the Seven Princesses of Heart, when all of a sudden out of nowhere SAFER SEPHIROTH descends, and for whatever reason you other six party members become Cloud, Cid, Yuffie, Aerith, Tifa, and Vincent makes his only appearance in the entire series and he's Nomura as gently caress.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Sephiroth is already the easiest secret boss in KH2FM. By KH3FM there will be a world where instead of fighting Heartless you fight hundreds of tiny Sephiroths.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Oh no, that means 100,000 heartless angels at once.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3
I'm clapping for you. You can't see it, but know that it's done.

maou shoujo
Apr 12, 2014

ニンゲンの表裏一体
End of the World is making me regret doing an Unchanging Armor run on standard difficulty instead of easy. Every fight here takes forever because the Kingdom Key's damage is so bad. Chernobog was difficult enough, I don't know if I can manage the Ansem boss rush without resorting to grinding EXP. Most of the rest of the game was fun, up until now at least.

sout
Apr 24, 2014

Yeah, I did my speedster/unchanging armour/undefeated in one go on beginner, was quite fun, but the final battle before getting to the final boss door took forever.

maou shoujo
Apr 12, 2014

ニンゲンの表裏一体
World of Chaos made me give up on not grinding for EXP. (Saved at level 53 at Final Rest, reached 55 during the fights) I simply can't do that one without at least gaining Leaf Bracer. Out of the four or five battleship phases and the three heartless phases, I can't even get past the first phase.

I did not expect this run to reach the super-restrictive youtube-challenge-video level of hard right at the end. Ansem and his stand would have been more fun if dying to him didn't send you back to Darkside. World of Chaos though... I've never had trouble with that fight before, in any playthrough.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
lmao beginner even sticks a ribbon on you by default lmao

maou shoujo
Apr 12, 2014

ニンゲンの表裏一体
Beat it on my first try at level 63. It's amazing how much difference a few stat points despite still not having Leaf Bracer. I went from dying in 3 hits to not dying after 5-6 hits (both without aero), while dealing at least double the damage. Add in MP Rage and upgrading Aero to Aeroga and we're done!

maou shoujo fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Nov 3, 2014

SereneCrimson
Oct 10, 2007

I am the morning sun, come to vanquish this horrible night!
Nobody's talin' about the absolutely gorgeous 2.5 Collector's Edition!




I'm a sucker for this stuff, so I pre-ordered it today. And a friend of mine is going to buy my copy of 1.5 HD to fix the problem of me buying this but already owning a copy (Plus makes this a little cheaper for me).

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
A hundred bucks? gently caress that.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I considered buying it until I saw the 100 buck price tag. That just ain't enough man, even with the nice Heartless Plush and I am a dumb sucker for these kinds of things usually.

Szurumbur
Feb 17, 2011
I wish there were EU pre-order deals with the soundtrack, since it's supposed to launch a bit before the 2.5 HD is released - I've tried searching for them, but there weren't any.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



Man, I just want the pin and the plush (in addition to the game). But I'd have to get those from, like, e-bay, and that would run me more than $100. :sigh:

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

If you really want the plush you can get it here. http://amzn.com/B00A4FRQXA

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Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I already preordered the regular version and I kinda want that plush but the rest just ain't worth it.

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