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WirelessPillow
Jan 12, 2012

Look Ma, no wires!
The signature suspicion you mentioned in the post makes absolute sense since they look nothing alike.

in the first part you can see that the forged signature has the "7" as a single piece, the base area has the close off as a circle and the 3 bottom lines are all pointed in the wrong direction, none of this is how the real signature is portrayed. This is consistent, all the parts are using shortcut smooth lines which is something the doctor, who has neat writing, doesn't do. Seeing it in screenshot form I am actually impressed with the amount of separate details in the different signatures.

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LiquidRain
May 21, 2007

Watch the madness!

It looks very much like kanji. (if it isn't outright kanji that I just can't read yet, absolute beginner here) The check-out signature looks as if someone hand wrote it in an awful hurry, almost scribbled, whereas the right side looks as if it was part of a kanji-writing test it's so completely neat.

For example, the middle character is completely different. For the left half, the seemingly forged one has a single stroke down the middle with two angled horizontal strokes. The real note has it properly written: they are actually two separate pieces of kanji, and the angled horizontal strokes taper off to the left while the last vertical stroke at the bottom starts thin, thickens at the turn, and tapers off to upper left. Then there's the mess made of the one that looks like 又 on the lower right of the signature. This stuff jumps out at me and I've only been studying kanji for ~2 months, it's probably completely obvious to well-studied or native readers.

So yeah, very much reason to be suspicious on that if the doc signs things that carefully. :)

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

BearDrivingTruck posted:

If I remember correctly, it's an allusion to "ki/chi healing" (martial arts magic, basically)-- Farah from Eternia and Regal from Symphonia were both martial artists with healing abilities that I think all referenced ki/chi.
IIRC, the only martial artist in the series without a couple of healing moves is Senel. He was too busy chucking dudes.

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






Endorph posted:

IIRC, the only martial artist in the series without a couple of healing moves is Senel. He was too busy chucking dudes.
There's also Suzu from the updated versions of Phantasia. (Technically she's a ninja but her basic attack combo involves juggling an enemy with kicks.)

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

LiquidRain posted:

It looks very much like kanji. (if it isn't outright kanji that I just can't read yet, absolute beginner here) The check-out signature looks as if someone hand wrote it in an awful hurry, almost scribbled, whereas the right side looks as if it was part of a kanji-writing test it's so completely neat.

Yeah, the game has its own writing standard roughly based on kanji.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
CH2: A Draining Experience



: Jude had entered the laboratory, but finding Professor Haus would be far more difficult.


: Where'd she go? She must have gone ahead.
There was something fishy about that sign-in sheet, too.
Anyway, I need to find the professor and tell him about the award.


Our first dungeon. No dungeon video for this because it's fairly straightforward. I may just not do dungeon videos for this LP since that describes basically every dungeon here.



: You might expect such a secure place to be guarded.




: And it totally was!
Guard: Hmph. I should be taking you to security, but you seem courteous enough.
Come on. I'll take you to the exit.
: Wait! I'm looking for Professor Haus. I think he's still here.
Guard: Oh, so you know the professor, do you? Yeah, he's still here.
You really shouldn't be wandering around here, kid. I oughta get in touch with your parents.
: My family doesn't live around here. They're all back in my hometown.


: Well, that's brought this place up to the 70th percentile of "ethically questionable laboratories".
: What?!
Guard: Relax. Come quietly and you won't get hurt.
: Why are you doing this?
Wait, does this mean you're holding the professor, too?!
Guard: I said come quietly, kid.


And we've got our first fight.


It's also got an optional tutorial. You can cancel it if you don't need it, but I take it in the video.


Take note of the portrait in the upper left. Our characters and notable enemies have in-battle corner portraits for battle talk. IIRC it's inspired by Shonen manga.


I don't really have room here for a lengthy fight analysis, but the controls described are more or less the same as any late-model Tales game.


There's a second tutorial fight a bit further in that covers how back-step works in this game. Unfortunately by default we don't have Graces-style sidestep :(


Jude's gimmick is that when he evades an attack with a backstep, he reappears behind the enemy. It's called "Snap Pivot."




I'll also go over Jude's artes once we have a few more of them. Jude's pretty strictly a fist-fighter.



: Jude had escaped the sewers, but he had no idea what he was doing still.


: Guess I'll just have to check each and every room.



: He saw someone who clearly didn't fit in with the guards or researchers in suits.


: Huh?



: And he followed her into a dark room. OOoooooooOOOOoooo.




Yeah I know it's a little noisy here. I'm not rerecording this AGAIN.
: Where did that girl go?




: P-Professor?




: It was too late. Awww.




: And that was just the tip of the iceberg of frozen corpses.


: OK not actually frozen, but, you get my point, right?
: ......
: So, you're the visitor I heard about?


: What is this place?! What'd you do to the professor?!
: Aha!
: Who are you?
: Your expression!
It's priceless!
I love the look of fear in your eyes!




And it's our first boss battle.




I shall transcribe the in-battle talking.
: What's going on? Why are you doing this?
: Ha ha ha you're such an idiot.
: Let me spell it out for you: you're gonna die!
: What!?
Anyway back to fight commentary. Everyone, guess Girl in Red's elemental affiliation. Burning Wheel hits in arc and in front.


If your attacks aren't strong enough enough, you won't stagger the enemy and they'll get that shield effect over them. Keep hitting, it'll go down eventually (unless you're being dumb).




So uh sometimes Snap Pivot is worse than regular backstep. This is one of those times.


360°.


Blue exclamation points notify you of the enemy using unblockable attacks, IIRC. Red ones denote Arcane Artes.




Lady in Red's weird tripod-sword-thing opens fully for blocking.


Flame Drill does what you think it does.


Flare Bomb is Milla's fire melee-attack thing. Feinne will tell you more about it since he's covering Milla's stuff.




: Ultimately this just wasn't a fight he was equipped to win.





One thing that I can't convey in screenshots is that this lady shakes like crazy whenever she's moving or emoting. I called her "the spastic" but that's probably rude to spastics.


: It's honestly really hard to come up with good last words. Or at least that's the way it seems to me from my end.
: You don't have people call you a 'supervillain' do you?
: A few, but we've made up since then.
: Just making sure.
: There has to be a way.


I hope you're not bothered by upskirts but the Girl in Red is basically wearing no skirt at all.


: Sometimes miracles do happen. Especially when She's around.


: Ah-ha! So you're the visitor I heard about!
: This guy's no fun. I'll kill you first.
: Run!
: That wasn't necessary.


: The girl started casting first.


: But you can't beat Her in casting.


: BOOOM! The look on her face!


: Unfortunately, knowing when to fold 'em, as they say, wasn't one of her strong points.
: I'll rip that pretty face of yours to pieces!
: I'd prefer you didn't.





Round 2 is equally unfair, but in our favor. Notice the difference in HP between Jude and Milla. There's an equally massive difference in all other stats, and it's not from her equipment.


: She got knocked around a bit, mostly because she was thinking more about the Spyrix than the fight.


Milla pulls out Summons at random, but her stats are so high it's pretty much impossible to lose.


: Milla really should have reigned Efreet in there, he's so eager he forgot to check the target's elemental resistances.
: That happens a lot.


The first time I did this Milla pulled out Sylph right away and ended the fight in 2 seconds.




Efreet: Raaaaa!
: Is that Efreet?
: You are correct. The Lord of Fire.
: I can't believe you were able to summon him.




And we gain a level for each of us. Our HP and TP don't automatically refill when we level, we need a skill to do that.



: This time she'd stay down for longer.
: Whoa.
: I told you to go home. Don't tell me you live here?
: No, of course not... I'm sorry...
: Er, uh...
: Is this the work of the spyrix?
: The what-ix?
There's a weird sound here that I'd assume is the Spirits communicating with Milla.
: Could it be connected to the disappearance of the lesser spirits?
: Huh? You're losing me. Disappearing spirits?
: You really need to go home. Someone might not swoop to your rescue next time you're in trouble.




: Hey, wait.
I'm kinda trapped here. If the professor were with me, they might've let me leave, but...
Can I come with you?
: Ha, I see. If you stick with the person who saved you, then you won't need any more saving. Clever boy.
: Boy? You don't look that much older than me.
: Uh, she looks five years older than you and you're fifteen. Silly Jude, always insecure about being so talented for one so young. You notice how he's the shortest guy at the Medical School?
: My name is Jude Mathis.
: I'm Milla.


: Milla Maxwell.



So we've got our first skits now.
Skit: Still Shaking


Note Jude's portrait's tilt. It's shaking.
: And for good reason. You were almost killed.
: I'm a civilian! Why would she attack me like that?
: I don't think she's part of Rashugal's army.
: If she's not a soldier, then what is she doing at a military facility?
: An ironic question for you or I to ask, don't you think?
: I see your point.
Did you... Did you kill her?
: I'm not sure. I tried to go easy on her, but humans are so fragile. I keep having to tell the Four not to overdo it.
: I'm not really following you.



Skit: Next Order of Business


: Huh?
: I assume you had some reason for coming to this place?
: I was worried because Professor Haus hadn't come back, but he's...
: One of the people who died while connected to that machine?
: Yeah. I can't believe it. The Professor had been so excited about the request from Orda Palace.
: I see.
: Hmm? Yes. Yes, I suppose so.
Milla's portrait exits house-right.
: Huh?
W-Wait for me!



: Outside, they encountered an odd phenomenon.
: Hmm? What's going on?


: I've been wondering what this thing is since I set off. My handmaid told me I had to carry it with me.
: Well, it comes in handy if you face monsters. It gives you the power to fight them.
I got one myself when I left home. Just in case.
: They're not... made from dead people's souls, are they?
: No, they're just little mineral devices. They've got a bit of a story, but it's not really that important to anything that comes up. Except a little something.


OK so really the whole point of that boss is so that you'd gain a level so that you can do the leveling tutorial. In Tales of Xillia, each character has a network of nodes arranged in a circular pattern called a Lillium Orb, where they spend the points they gain when they level up. Each point unlocks a node. We can only activate nodes that are adjacent to the center or linked to a node we've already activated. Nodes between points on the lines are activated once we've activated all the nodes surrounding them. Those nodes are our main source of skills and artes. To increase the size of the Lillium Orb, we have to activate three special nodes in the outermost ring, including the one with a circle around it that designates it as the "key" node. You can see the key node off to the right.


: So that's how it works. This is actually my first time developing it, too.
: I see. So it's a tool that taps into inherent abilities. I imagine that powerless humans never leave home without them.
: You talk as if you're not human yourself.



Skit: One and the Same

: Not at all. We are one and the same.
: I'm sorry?
: I am Maxwell, Lord of Spirits.
: What?! Come on! You're totally human! You...
Jude's portrait moves towards her, then moves back. I think this represents him oogling her.
: ...look just like a normal woman.
: I would hope so. That is the form I created for myself.
: The form you created?



Skit: Proof of Identity


: You don't believe me?
: A person claiming to be a spirit? It's a bit much to swallow.
: Then how do you humans prove your identities to each other?
: Well, by showing identification, I guess. I have a medical school ID card.
: Ah. Then I doubt that I'll be able to prove my identity to your satisfaction.
I wouldn't even know where to apply for a spirit ID card.
: Is it really okay for me to be following this person?



Skit: Cold Comfort


: But now he's dead.
: ......
Milla's portrait moves up against Jude's.
: What... What are you doing?
: I'm cuddling you.
: Uh... Why?
: I read it in a book. When humans are upset, they feel better when you cuddle them.
: What book was that?
: "A Mother's Eyes, A Mother's Touch".
: That sounds like a book about child-rearing. I'm not a baby.
: This technique has no effect on you?
: Humans are so complicated.
: Haha, well, I guess I do feel a little better. Thank you.
: Hm? So it does work.



Skit: Going Deeper


: We're not heading to the exit?
: No.
: There's something seriously wrong here. Shouldn't we get out?
: I'm aware of the danger, but there's something I must find.
I'm afraid I can't escort you out before then.
: Sure. After all, I was the one who asked to go with you.
: Heh.
: What's so funny?
: It's nothing. When my business here is done, I promise to see you safely out of here.
There's no need to worry.
: Thanks.



Skit: Sparring Time


: Yeah. I studied self-defense when I was a kid.
: They say that even the best-trained soldiers may panic in the face of actual combat.
Yet you seem completely together.
: Well, I had a friend I trained with who used to shout "sparring time" and attack me out of the blue.
So it's probably thanks to her.
: I see.
: I'd always wind up on the ground, covered in bruises.
: I'm sorry to dredge up such painful memories.
: What? No, it's not like that.
: Don't all bullied children say that?
: Bullied?! That's not what-- Wait... Was it?



: They had finally found it.










: "The Lance of Kresnik"? That's the name of the sage from the Genesis Age.




: Hmph. So this is what humans call irony. Naming this weapon after Kresnik.
Listen up! We must destroy that which harms man and spirit!






: Haaaaaah!


: It would have been easy to take it out, with the power of the four.


: If that girl wasn't absolutely nutso.
: What are you doing here?!
: You are really starting to make me angry!






: Fool! Are you insane? Don't you know this is going to drain you, too?!


: Yes, she's nutso, just FYI.
: It's acting directly on our mana lobes.
: This wasn't part of the plan. But it's nothing I can't deal with!


: That's it.


: Milla! Look down!
Huh...?
: Stop! Or you'll be dragged in with it!




: Wait... Take Milla and then run?
Huh? What? What are you trying to do?


: They would save Milla.




: No matter what it cost them.








: She finally pulled the control key free, but it was a bit late. Also a bit... energetic.




: She realized that she was without the power of The Four.


: Man Jude sucks at the whole "catch your buddy" thing.
: Not like his grip would have held if he grabbed her. Only thing to do was go in after her.




: Oh, and he was there watching all this. I wonder who he is.



So at this point the intro movie plays. If you're on a totally fresh install, this'd be the first time you see it. Here's Jude's again. Just ignore the title screen bit, since obviously that wouldn't pop up here. Also there's no sound because youtube's copyright thing nails me each time.



: Ughh! *POP* *Huf* *Huf*
: Oh, you're not dead. I was getting worried for a bit there.

wdarkk fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Nov 1, 2014

Level Seven
Feb 14, 2013

Wubba dubba dubba
that blew.



Megamarm

wdarkk posted:

2A68.jpg

Note Jude's portrait's tilt. It's shaking.

You forgot the image there. Also, did you mean to use Lady in Red's name before we actually learn it in-story?

You should've beaten her with Jude solo. I know it's only just extra exp but it was doable. :colbert:

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
The Jude intro video doesn't seem to have any sound until the end.

Girl in Red is my favorite character. There I said it. She's so delightfully insane and her voice acting is perfect.

The blue exclamation points are just for a counter. Girl in Red's just so happens to be unblockable. She can also do CRAZY amounts of damage if her AI feels like it. I took over 2000 damage in one combo on normal when I was testing her in a NG+ setting.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
So according to wdarkk the intro's music sets off youtube's copyright thing and therefore has to be removed. That is why there's no sound.

I've recorded Milla's version of this and I've got raw video processing now, tomorrow or Saturday-ish is when I'm hoping to have something. I'll also talk about the crazy battle style Milla uses here that we won't see again until Xillia 2, where we actually can switch to it with a skill.

Bricoleur
Feb 1, 2012

Jude has a really deep voice for a 15-year-old kid. I guess abrupt voice changes can happen with puberty but it's throwing Jude into feeling like he's 20. I wonder how badly he's going to freak when he gets to a stopping point. He did just find a hidden facility where his professor and other people are being kidnapped and forcibly drained of their mana until they turn to dust like some magical Unit 731 experiment. The lab looks huge, and with the soldiers there isn't just money behind this but possibly government backing. Holy crap what the hell kind of city do you live in Jude?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

wdarkk posted:

: Well, I had a friend I trained with who used to shout "sparring time" and attack me out of the blue.

Not now, Cato! :argh:

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
It looks like the third and fourth videos are both titled 2C, and you got them mixed up.

Sindai fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Oct 31, 2014

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Oh hey a new Tales LP. I saw this game on sale a few days ago but I decided not to buy it cause I still need to finish Vesparia, here's hoping I don't regret my decision. The game looks pretty fun though and Jude and Milla have left pretty good first impressions. The fact that generic JRPG protagonist man is a doctor and does not use swords makes me like him more than I probably should and Milla just seems pretty cool and competent so far.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

wdarkk posted:

: Ughh! *POP* *Huf* *Huf*
: Oh, you're not dead. I was getting worried for a bit there.

gently caress, Creeper Extraordinaire survives the first game? Goddammit. Couldn't better characters survive?

Oh, and time to loss of the Fours: two updates. Only Samus losing all her upgrades at the start of a new Metroid is faster.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
"I sorta let myself in, sorry for the intrusion" is such a naive line that it's hilarious.

Jude must be an AMAZING lip reader to get all that stuff from the tank guy.


"But I don't wanna die. :saddowns: " ... What a terrible line and a terrible delivery of it.

Lillium Orbs... the Tales games love their magic Designated-Protagonist-Devices, don't they. Huh, it's not a Sphere Grid, but a HEX grid.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
Fixed the videos and that one .JPG, later today I'll upload a version of the Skit Video that doesn't have a big pause in the middle.

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012
The only Tales game I've played was Symphonia, very briefly, and the combat system in this game looks about ten times faster and far more active/fluid. The movement of portraits in the skits is also surprisingly effective.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
It's funny too, Milla's combat actually speeds up after this section because she's doing something kind of weird right now.

Raitzeno
Nov 24, 2007

What? It seemed like
a good idea at the time.

Oh nice, a Xillia LP. The main cast of this game is loving fantastic both on a character and mechanical level. There's nobody I dislike or even feel ambivalent toward, they're all fun people. What really made this for me, though, is the combat. Every single one of them feels interesting and fun in very different ways. I've tried playing as a bunch of different characters in Tales games and there's one in drat near every game I just can't stand controlling in battle (any mages at all up through Symphonia, Jay, Karol, Cheria...) but every character here is a blast.

Jude is still my favorite in this game, but I loving love Tales-series brawlers. Most series make fist/glove/claw wielders garbage, but they're always really fun in these games. The shining example is still Senel from Legendia, who made a pretty bad game seem fun by the sheer fun of being able to grab an enemy - regardless of size, by the end - and chuck them through the other enemies like a goddamned bowling ball. Jude isn't necessarily a grappler but his sidestepping, knockdown, and aerial moves make fighting as him feel very fluid and quick.

E: The villains this time are also great. The crazy lady we just met is hilarious and her VA must have had a BLAST recording her.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Raitzeno posted:

I just can't stand controlling in battle... Cheria...
Did you never try her in the Future arc? Because she's fun as hell when she becomes Dio Brando.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Raitzeno posted:

E: The villains this time are also great. The crazy lady we just met is hilarious and her VA must have had a BLAST recording her.

Fun fact, it's Kate Higgins, AKA Pascal from Graces! :v:

Endorph posted:

Did you never try her in the Future arc? Because she's fun as hell when she becomes Dio Brando.

DIO? How does... wait, she can stop time and she throws knives... :psyduck:

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

ChaosArgate posted:

Fun fact, it's Kate Higgins, AKA Pascal from Graces! :v:


DIO? How does... wait, she can stop time and she throws knives... :psyduck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpZLX2aIvb8

Digital Jello
Nov 2, 2012

Now I have a machine gun. Ho! Ho! Ho!

Bricoleur posted:

Jude has a really deep voice for a 15-year-old kid. I guess abrupt voice changes can happen with puberty but it's throwing Jude into feeling like he's 20.

I actually liked Milla's voice for the same reason; because it was deeper and more "tough-sounding" than your usual squealing JRPG heroine. Also, I didn't know Jude was only 15. I figured most of the cast (with exception to the obvious, like children) were in their early 20's, but then I realized this is exactly what I said: a JRPG.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Digital Jello posted:

I actually liked Milla's voice for the same reason; because it was deeper and more "tough-sounding" than your usual squealing JRPG heroine. Also, I didn't know Jude was only 15. I figured most of the cast (with exception to the obvious, like children) were in their early 20's, but then I realized this is exactly what I said: a JRPG.

It's still probably the oldest Tales cast (counting only normal-people ages, so 4,000 year olds are removed from consideration).

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
The fact that so many people thought Jude was older is kind of weird to me. 15 years old seems just right for his character.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

wdarkk posted:

It's still probably the oldest Tales cast (counting only normal-people ages, so 4,000 year olds are removed from consideration).

Given that there is no 4000 year olds in this one yes. Milla is also older then every main protagonist other then Yuri (They tend to be 17 or 18 while she is 20.) and she is just as much the main character if not more then Jude no matter the route that is taken.

MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Nov 1, 2014

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

MonsterEnvy posted:

Given that there is no 4000 year olds in this one yes. Milla is also older then I think every main protagonist other then Yuri (They tend to be 17 or 18 while she is 20.)

I'm referring to Kratos, who is technically part of the Symphonia party.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

MonsterEnvy posted:

Given that there is no 4000 year olds in this one yes. Milla is also older then every main protagonist other then Yuri (They tend to be 17 or 18 while she is 20.) and she is just as much the main character is not more then Jude no matter the route that is taken.

As far as who the story is about she's definitely more the main character than Jude.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Feinne posted:

As far as who the story is about she's definitely more the main character than Jude.

Slight Typo meant "If" not "Is"

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Milla is the party leader and the one pushing the story forward, Jude is the viewpoint character.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

Good to see another wdarkk LP. Your Graces LP inspired me to go out and buy that game, so I'm excited to see what's going to happen with Xillia here.

Milla is great right from the get go, character-wise I think.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
I am glad that Milla is the main character, because Jude is kinda Generic-Slightly-Dim-Tales-Protagonist so far.

MonsterEnvy posted:

Given that there is no 4000 year olds in this one yes. Milla is also older then every main protagonist other then Yuri (They tend to be 17 or 18 while she is 20.) and she is just as much the main character if not more then Jude no matter the route that is taken.

I thought Milla was supposed to be Maxwell, the eternal Lord of spirits and stuff. So is the Legend of Maxwell really new, or does Maxwell reincarnate every few years?

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

I thought Milla was supposed to be Maxwell, the eternal Lord of spirits and stuff. So is the Legend of Maxwell really new, or does Maxwell reincarnate every few years?

I'll get to this later, but Milla has existed in her present form for 20 years, and that's what I'm counting. She even had a childhood of sorts.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

I am glad that Milla is the main character, because Jude is kinda Generic-Slightly-Dim-Tales-Protagonist so far.


I thought Milla was supposed to be Maxwell, the eternal Lord of spirits and stuff. So is the Legend of Maxwell really new, or does Maxwell reincarnate every few years?

Milla explains it pretty well as wdarkk said we will get to it.

Endorph posted:

Milla is the party leader and the one pushing the story forward, Jude is the viewpoint character.

On his side, on Milla's side she is still all of that and the view point character.

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
Generally JRPGs make a lot more sense if you add five years to the ages of the characters (though it's kind of logarithmic: you add fewer years to younger characters and more to older characters so that when they're going on about being old they're 50 and not like 35 or something)

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

ManlyGrunting posted:

Generally JRPGs make a lot more sense if you add five years to the ages of the characters (though it's kind of logarithmic: you add fewer years to younger characters and more to older characters so that when they're going on about being old they're 50 and not like 35 or something)

Old Man in this game is legit old.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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MonsterEnvy posted:

Old Man in this game is legit old.

I kind of want a game with him and Raven just so we can see what happens when Raven calls himself "old."

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






Perhaps it's just me, but it seems as if Milla's voicing sounds a bit text-to-speech. Though considering her identity it would not surprise me if this were deliberate.

wdarkk
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NGDBSS posted:

Perhaps it's just me, but it seems as if Milla's voicing sounds a bit text-to-speech. Though considering her identity it would not surprise me if this were deliberate.

She doesn't get a lot of practice.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

ManlyGrunting posted:

Generally JRPGs make a lot more sense if you add five years to the ages of the characters (though it's kind of logarithmic: you add fewer years to younger characters and more to older characters so that when they're going on about being old they're 50 and not like 35 or something)
This one kinda doesn't. Jude's written as an awkward teenager, Milla's written as a young adult, the other party members fit their ages too.


MonsterEnvy posted:

On his side, on Milla's side she is still all of that and the view point character.
Nope! It'll become more obvious as we move further on in the game but the game still totally treats Jude as the protagonist, even in Milla's story where you're getting party splits and going with Milla's side. Even something like the way the cutscenes are directed treats Jude as the protagonist - they focus on getting his face in shot in a lot of group scenes, meaning that since he's so short about half the party are constantly shown from the shoulders down.

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