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BigRed0427 posted:1: Are there any big video libraries of old promotions that the WWE still doesn't own yet? Memphis was named but IIRC they also don't own Portland.
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MisterGBH posted:Speaking of the WWE tape library; did they ever get the World Of Sport stuff? I seem to remember that they weretgoing after it. It's owned by ITV who probably aren't selling any time soon.
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Nov 14, 2014 07:57
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Memphis was named but IIRC they also don't own Portland. I think the Portland Wrestling library might be owned by Don Coss who is still promoting local shows under that name to this day but I can't be certain
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Nov 14, 2014 08:05
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Memphis was named but IIRC they also don't own Portland. They don't own those as well as SF, LA, any of the Texas promotions other than WCCW, St. Louis, any of the Montreal promotions, IWA, Dumont era Chicago (which just popped up on Youtube in abundance thanks to the Chicago Film Archives) Indianapolis, Detroit or the NWF. Of these there really aren't too many tape libraries to speak of. There's San Antonio DVDs out there, some Houston just popped up but only enough for a few DVD sets, we don't know how much Chicago is out there but it seems like a good amount, the IWA lasted only a year so there isn't much from them, St. Louis has some but Matysik will never sell to Vince, there's no SF library to speak of and barely anything on youtube, same with LA. I don't think there is a library for Detroit but there are collectors with a decent amount. I sadly lost what little I had. No clue about Indianapolis or NWF but I doubt it is much. I've heard some 70s Montreal is starting to pop up but not much is said to exist. Edit: also Herb Abrams UWF but no one wants to own that. Speaking of I need to show Blackjack Brawl sooner or later. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 08:45
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Spermgod posted:i don't remember Haku's 2001-2002 WWF run at all I do. They threw him into some hardcore matches, and they'd have every other Pacific Islander talk to him backstage, where Haku would say something in another language and everyone else perfectly understood him but responded in English. It was kinda racist.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:53
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Speaking of TV rights, is there an issue with Viacom preventing The War to Settle the Score and The Brawl to End It All from being put up on the network?
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Nov 14, 2014 11:14
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The IWC was freaking out after Haku returned because the rumour was WM 17 would have Haku/Rikishi vs The Brothers of Destruction and no one wanted to see that match.
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Nov 14, 2014 12:43
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CopywrightMMXI posted:The IWC was freaking out after Haku returned because the rumour was WM 17 would have Haku/Rikishi vs The Brothers of Destruction and no one wanted to see that match. Rikishi would be terrible, Haku would just kind of be there, and well it's a 2001 Undertaker match so do the math.
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Nov 14, 2014 13:16
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My favorite thing about Haku/Meng was in early WCW they would frequently have wooden chairs get broken over his head to show how tough he was. They never had them get used for anything else, so when you saw the wooden deck chair around, you knew Meng was not far behind.
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Nov 14, 2014 15:25
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I'm a bit surprised they haven't gone after the Montreal stuff more, given how Andre started there and even promoted there.
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Nov 14, 2014 15:43
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Iron Chef Nex posted:Yeah - he was pretty active in the mid-late 80's tag scene in the WWF. His team with Andre ended when Andre beat the tar out of him to turn face. Haku is pretty neat, and seems like a great and interesting guy, but his WWF run consisted of being a stereotype tag team under Heenan, getting a fake King gimmick from Harley Race, losing to Jim Duggan, and doing all the work in a tag team with Andre. Then his second stint was jobbing to tall fake zombies. He was much better off in WCW.
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Nov 14, 2014 16:13
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Red posted:Haku is pretty neat, and seems like a great and interesting guy, but his WWF run consisted of being a stereotype tag team under Heenan, getting a fake King gimmick from Harley Race, losing to Jim Duggan, and doing all the work in a tag team with Andre. Then his second stint was jobbing to tall fake zombies. Yeah - at least a good portion of his WCW run was being a midcard monster - they guy would buzzsaw jobbers and give the upper carders something to think about based on that rep.
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Nov 14, 2014 16:24
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Cardboard Box posted:I think the Portland Wrestling library might be owned by Don Coss who is still promoting local shows under that name to this day but I can't be certain The current Portland Wrestling show (currently on at midnight Saturday on KPTV) actually plays old matches from the 70s and 80s when they go to intermission before the main event.
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Nov 14, 2014 17:20
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Iron Chef Nex posted:Yeah - at least a good portion of his WCW run was being a midcard monster - they guy would buzzsaw jobbers and give the upper carders something to think about based on that rep. I was slightly too young to really watch and remember him in WCW, but he always comes up as a midcarder that was treated fairly well. Was he friends with Nash and crew? Or was everyone just too afraid NOT to book him well? I feel like I've heard Nash (and plenty of others) put him over as being tough IRL.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:08
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'm a bit surprised they haven't gone after the Montreal stuff more, given how Andre started there and even promoted there. Since he was in Montreal, did Andre do French language promos?
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Nov 14, 2014 18:09
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Smoking Crow posted:Since he was in Montreal, did Andre do French language promos? I would think so. I've not seen them but Montreal is a FIERCELY proud city when it comes to language. And Andre did speak french.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:12
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Didny speak much English
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Nov 14, 2014 18:38
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Gar posted:I was slightly too young to really watch and remember him in WCW, but he always comes up as a midcarder that was treated fairly well. Was he friends with Nash and crew? Or was everyone just too afraid NOT to book him well? I feel like I've heard Nash (and plenty of others) put him over as being tough IRL. Reports range from "Would have been greatest MMA fighter ever" to "Cleared out an entire bar in a fight, bit everyone's noses off." The truth is somewhere in there.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:17
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He just bit the one guys nose off.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:25
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Reports range from "Would have been greatest MMA fighter ever" He wouldn't.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:32
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I thought he put someone's eye out of their socket too.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:38
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Somebody gonna get they nose bit
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Nov 14, 2014 19:43
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Meng fought Tank Abbott to a standstill over the course of an entire three hour Nitro.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:02
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Seltzer posted:He wouldn't. Has anyone tried to eat Bork Laser's nose? OneThousandMonkeys posted:I thought he put someone's eye out of their socket too. The story was he was ready to in a bar but thought better of it since that might get him fired.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:06
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Every time someone compares Meng to a MMA fighter, I can't help but wonder if they've ever seen a fight
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Nov 14, 2014 20:07
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Let us recount the ways we like Meng.quote:There are so many stories about Meng fighting with other wrestlers, but that doesn't mean management wasn't just as scared of him. Former head of WCW, Eric Bischoff has said numerous times that Meng was never fired from WCW because no one was brave enough to do it. On one particular day, Bischoff and Greg Gagne walked into the locker room and interrupted a conversation between Meng and Chris Candido, Chris Jericho, and Tammy Sytch. Meng immediately looked at the pair of execs and said, "Hey! Apologize to my friends. I'm talking to them." According to Candido, the entire room went silent and everyone just froze. It was then that he realized the stories about Meng weren't just legends. Bischoff and Gagne apologized to them and waited for the conversation to finish before speaking with Meng. quote:The Steiner Brothers were known for being tough guys, so when a man is feared by two of the hardest guys in the sport, you know they've seen some crazy things. In an interview, Steiner talked about the time Meng fought off eight police officers. "They shot him with mace and he closed his eyes and sucked it in. He just opened his mouth and took a deep breath. I mean some of the stuff he did was like, 'What the hell?' Scotty and I always thought we were tough guys but that was before we met Meng." quote:In a shoot interview, Heenan talked extensively about Meng and referred to him as the toughest man (not just wrestler) he's ever met in his life. The craziest story he shared was in regards to a bar fight where he claimed Meng "took his two fingers on his right hand, his index finger and trigger finger, and he reached into the guy's mouth and he broke off the guy's bottom teeth." Heenan said that if he hadn't been there and seen it himself, he wouldn't believe it. After all the other stories that have been confirmed, it doesn't seem that unbelievable at all. Heenan was also close friends with Andre the Giant and claimed that the only two men in the word that Andre feared were Meng and Harley Race. quote:In an interview with James Guttman of World Wrestling Insanity, Meng discussed how he wrestled to support his family and not for the fame or popularity. That's why he took particular offense when anyone called wrestling fake. quote:During Kevin Sullivan's numerous shoot interviews, he's spoken extensively on his time working with Meng. He claims that on one occasion when Sullivan was a booker in WCW, he asked Meng to do something that wasn't major, but it wasn't completely the right thing to do. He said that Meng got a little upset and it was most scared he's ever been in his entire life, despite Meng not being that angry.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:16
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Yuriy posted:Every time someone compares Meng to a MMA fighter, I can't help but wonder if they've ever seen a fight But you don't get it man, he was past his prime when UFC existed he wasn't a young lion like Dan Severn!
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Nov 14, 2014 20:17
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I choose to believe all Meng is a badass stories because the world is funnier that way.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:21
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It's funnier when you think of him today managing a car detailing place or whatever he does now.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:23
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Wrestlers were afraid of Meng, but keep in mind wrestlers also thought Taz was a shooter and was going to real fight them.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:37
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Meng vs Lesnar in a shoot fight, now I'd pay to see that.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:40
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The guy who just kind of casually goes "Yeah, so then I bit his nose off, we were drunk" is always going to win.
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Nov 14, 2014 21:21
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Who were the "knights" in the Hart Family Feud match at Survivor Series 1993?
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Nov 14, 2014 22:12
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Maxwell Lord posted:Who were the "knights" in the Hart Family Feud match at Survivor Series 1993? Barry Horowitz, Greg Valentine, and some other guy
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Nov 14, 2014 22:14
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I was always amused at the implication that HBK had his own crew of knights ready to go when Lawler couldn't show. I forget, what was the on-air explanation for Lawler's absence anyway?
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Nov 14, 2014 22:20
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triplexpac posted:Wrestlers were afraid of Meng, but keep in mind wrestlers also thought Taz was a shooter and was going to real fight them. Half the ECW shoots I've seen included "oh yeah everyone thought Taz was a shooter but I knew he was a little orange pussy, unlike everyone else" I think New Jack threatened to kick his rear end and he ran away to Paul E about it or something?
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Nov 14, 2014 22:38
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Luigi Thirty posted:Half the ECW shoots I've seen included "oh yeah everyone thought Taz was a shooter but I knew he was a little orange pussy, unlike everyone else" I heard a story about either HHH or Kurt Angle being worried Taz would go into business for himself and shoot on them in a match. I may be misremembering though
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Nov 14, 2014 22:43
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oatgan posted:Barry Horowitz, Greg Valentine, and some other guy Jeff Gaylord. He was a big guy from USWA that never made it.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:58
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triplexpac posted:I heard a story about either HHH or Kurt Angle being worried Taz would go into business for himself and shoot on them in a match. I may be misremembering though It was Angle before Royal Rumble 2000. Could not have been a funnier person worrying about someone trying to legit grapple him.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:It was Angle before Royal Rumble 2000. Could not have been a funnier person worrying about someone trying to legit grapple him. Yea, Angle worrying about the grappling prowess of "Haku" seems like complete and utter bullshit
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