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Ron Paul Atreides posted:Actually, if you could get all the vehicles on the road to be self operating and coordinate with each other we could have much higher speeds on highways and more efficient flow during high traffic volumes. This does require a centrally managed system with set standards and monitoring though, so the opposite of what is happening with Google in practice it's much easier to go current cars -> google cars -> centralized control of robot cars than to just skip the middle step entirely as you're not going to be able to just flip a switch, robot cars have to coexist with human cars
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plus even if you have centralized control you still have to deal with cars that aren't on the network unless you can criminalize non-driverless cars and good luck with that
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Finally our lizard masters are destroyed and we can drop the shilling and praise bitcoin 18 years ago
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if only there were a way to transport people, en masse... some sort of transit system provided for the public good, with centralized management and pre-determined routes. oh well.
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vOv posted:plus even if you have centralized control you still have to deal with cars that aren't on the network unless you can criminalize non-driverless cars and good luck with that You still have to deal with non-networked cars, but you're still going to decrease yearly fatalities by a significant amount even if only half of the cars are driverless. Muscle Tracer posted:if only there were a way to transport people, en masse... some sort of transit system provided for the public good, with centralized management and pre-determined routes. oh well. Yeah you've obviously never lived in a city where the public transport is poo poo. Plus you're ignoring the "last mile" problem
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QuarkJets posted:Yeah you've obviously never lived in a city where the public transport is poo poo. Plus you're ignoring the "last mile" problem
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what advantage does a system of self-driving cars have over a system of high-speed rails? because high-speed rails already exist and are a proven mode of transport
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Dead Beef posted:what advantage does a system of self-driving cars have over a system of high-speed rails? high speed rail is bullshit, there's little need for people to travel 130+ mph when their destination is on average well under 30 miles away. high speed rail is also directly incompatible with short trips, because you need significant distance to build up speed and then brake for a stop
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Dead Beef posted:what advantage does a system of self-driving cars have over a system of high-speed rails? can you tip a train CAN YOU?
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Dead Beef posted:what advantage does a system of self-driving cars have over a system of high-speed rails? don't need to start or finish at a station, easier to transport stuff like shopping, less piss on the floor
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Dead Beef posted:what advantage does a system of self-driving cars have over a system of high-speed rails? you dont have to stand next to those people
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basically the reason you can't have good public transportation in the united states is americans other countries do just fine because they are not full of americans
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Dead Beef posted:what advantage does a system of self-driving cars have over a system of high-speed rails? amount of new infrastructure needed to make high speed rail useful in 3/4 of the US: hundreds of billions of dollars and years of convincing NIMBY suburbanite pricks to give approval amount of new infrastructure needed to make google cars useful in the entire US: 0
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QuarkJets posted:Yeah you've obviously never lived in a city where the public transport is poo poo. Plus you're ignoring the "last mile" problem i've lived in both kinds, and the only reason places like LA have poo poo public transit is because everybody's too busy jacking off onto the hoods of their teslas and prii and living the american dream
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Magic Underwear posted:amount of new infrastructure needed to make google cars useful in the entire US: 0 yup, this is definitely a true statement and totally not a really stupid thing to say
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Dead Beef posted:what advantage does a system of self-driving cars have over a system of high-speed rails? high-speed railways don't exist in most places, whereas roads do high-speed railways are only suitable for long distances, whereas cars are suitable for any distance no chargebacks
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Disabled Hitler posted:yup, this is definitely a true statement and totally not a really stupid thing to say the joke is that google is going to drop the cars in a couple months just like all their other projects 
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Disabled Hitler posted:yup, this is definitely a true statement and totally not a really stupid thing to say i guess its easy to win arguments when you don't even make an argument to begin with. explain yourself or shut the gently caress up.
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Muscle Tracer posted:i've lived in both kinds, and the only reason places like LA have poo poo public transit is because everybody's too busy jacking off onto the hoods of their teslas and prii and living the american dream the actual reason is suburban sprawl, which makes it difficult to design and implement an effective and affordable public transportation system. in places that were designed for foot traffic (most of Europe and eastern US, IE cities that existed before cars), higher population density makes public transportation a viable and obvious option.
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Boxturret posted:the joke is that google is going to drop the cars in a couple months just like all their other projects google's work on self-driving cars isn't even anywhere near the cutting edge so who gives a poo poo?
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Magic Underwear posted:amount of new infrastructure needed to make high speed rail useful in 3/4 of the US: hundreds of billions of dollars and years of convincing NIMBY suburbanite pricks to give approval theres just about nowhere that high speed rail is useful though. normal 80 - 120 mph rail works just fine for commuter and intercity rail. and when you start going really long distances a 200 mph train still means you're going significantly slower than a plane so what's even the point. oh wow you can now do chicago to nyc by rail in 5 hours great why didn't you just fly for 2 hours, taking 30 minute commuter rail trains out and in to the airports
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TRAINS TRAINS UNGH UNGH UNGH MY PRECIOUS TRAINS *cums all over a picture of a train*
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Nintendo Kid posted:theres just about nowhere that high speed rail is useful though. and when you add the time it takes to board a plane plus going somewhere that is actually a place as opposed to the 5 min it takes to get on a train that stops in the middle of the city
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QuarkJets posted:TRAINS TRAINS UNGH UNGH UNGH MY PRECIOUS TRAINS *cums all over a picture of a train* fishmech and trains. might as well close the thread now.
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Trains take less 'gas' , or their respective fuels, than airplanes would. Also, since most Amtrak stations don't have the sort of security you'd expect from an airplane depot or whatever, they're much more accessible to bespoke bitcoin sellers and evangelists, like airports in the days of old.
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well, this was a good bitcoin thread while it lasted
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Sweevo posted:well, this was a good bitcoin thread while it lasted why would you lie like this
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yeah but mass transit sucks because it won't drop me off exactly where i want to go, and i don't want to waste my precious attention on driving there if only there was a way of calling up a service that will arrange a car to come pick me up and drop me off at specific points in exchange for money
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QuarkJets posted:why would you lie like this clearly you have never seen a bad Bitcoin thread
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we've found Satoshi, call in the hit squad
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i like to mention this whenever it comes up, but my state has trouble even imposing basic emission standards because most people cannot afford a car made in the last ten years. no one is replacing all the cars with self driving ones any time soon.
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crusader_complex posted:i like to mention this whenever it comes up, but my state has trouble even imposing basic emission standards because most people cannot afford a car made in the last ten years. no one is replacing all the cars with self driving ones any time soon.
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chip and pin celcius fahrenheit doors and goats
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