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psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Paladine_PSoT posted:

This. And put them in separate trenches so some asshat with a plow doesn't take down the cluster.

I'm assuming you're running this at layer 2. Is there even anything out there right now that can do 40G/100G over long distances, or are you guys doing some sort of metro-e layout?

e: Looks like 30-40km is the max range for 100G at the moment.

psydude fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jan 24, 2015

# ? Jan 24, 2015 21:45

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# ? May 11, 2024 06:35

Paladine_PSoT: Jan 2, 2010; If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

psydude posted:

I'm assuming you're running this at layer 2. Is there even anything out there right now that can do 40G/100G over long distances?

No idea, I'm a PM. I just said "here's what I need, make it happen".

Also: because I'm not terrible I gave them information on how we need it to scale so they don't need to get 24Tbps online to start, they can ramp up to that based on usage patterns.

# ? Jan 24, 2015 21:48

Wizard of the Deep: Sep 25, 2005; Another productive workday

Our administrative passwords are stored in a special vault that has 3.5-factor authentication:

To use this vault, you have to meet the following qualifications:

1. Thing(s) you know: Two different passwords
2. Thing you have: RSA token
3. Thing you are: a complete idiot (to be using this solution)

# ? Jan 25, 2015 00:36

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

What infrastructure is that password database running on, and what directory does it authenticate against?

# ? Jan 25, 2015 00:38

evol262: Nov 30, 2010; #!/usr/bin/perl

Wizard of the Deep posted:

Our administrative passwords are stored in a special vault that has 3.5-factor authentication:

To use this vault, you have to meet the following qualifications:

1. Thing(s) you know: Two different passwords
2. Thing you have: RSA token
3. Thing you are: a complete idiot (to be using this solution)

"If we add more factors, it's more secure!"

# ? Jan 25, 2015 02:07

Wizard of the Deep: Sep 25, 2005; Another productive workday

evol262 posted:

"If we add more factors, it's more secure!"

Oh yea, you can only access it from the internal network, so if you're not in a corporate location, you have to connect over a VPN, which requires a completely different username, password, and RSA token.

It pulls a random admin account from a pool that have the access rights you should have, for the server group you need to administrate. And the randomly generated passwords are only good for up to six hours.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 02:36

Potato Salad: Oct 23, 2014; nobody cares

Paladine_PSoT posted:

poo poo that doesnt piss me off: the networking team in charge of building an expansion in our datacenters came to lowly old contractor me to find out how much bandwidth they needed between the old building and the new one because i knew network traffic patterns better.

poo poo that makes me outright smile: when i said we needed a larger pipeline than weve ever done before (24Tbps) i had a bunch of very high level network architects sit down with me to figure out what i did wrong to get that number.

I successfully defended it.

Heavens -- what are you doing that requires 24 Tbps??

# ? Jan 25, 2015 04:16

jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

Potato Salad posted:

Heavens -- what are you doing that requires 24 Tbps??

Man likes his porn and he likes it fast.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 05:49

Paladine_PSoT: Jan 2, 2010; If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

jaegerx posted:

Man likes his porn and he likes it fast.

You wouldn't believe what one of the modes in multi-mode fiber is...

# ? Jan 25, 2015 06:03

meanieface: Mar 27, 2012; During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Was is this thread or another where someone posted a beautiful explanation of why focusing on "why" questions caused you to blame individuals for failures inherent in the organization?

Not that I'm considering printing it and leaving it on my VP's desk.

I'm totally considering it.

I just tossed 7 hours on my timesheet for Saturday, and that's because I'm not counting hours after midnight as Saturday. On the weekend I wasn't working. Bah humbug. poo poo pissing me off: firefighting. Everyone's too drat busy putting out fires to do a proper peer review so when code shits the bed it's meanie's fault for copy/pasting an update statement out of the standards because I should have known they needed rewritten. :suicide:

# ? Jan 25, 2015 09:13

luminalflux: May 27, 2005

psydude posted:

I'm assuming you're running this at layer 2. Is there even anything out there right now that can do 40G/100G over long distances, or are you guys doing some sort of metro-e layout?

e: Looks like 30-40km is the max range for 100G at the moment.

Using DWDM you can probably get 100 GBps over like 400-600km from a quick glance at some optical gear manufacturers cutsheets.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 11:58

rolleyes: Nov 16, 2006; Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

Wizard of the Deep posted:

Oh yea, you can only access it from the internal network, so if you're not in a corporate location, you have to connect over a VPN, which requires a completely different username, password, and RSA token.

It pulls a random admin account from a pool that have the access rights you should have, for the server group you need to administrate. And the randomly generated passwords are only good for up to six hours.

This is genuinely quite impressive and would have saved Sony Pictures a whole metric shitload of problems.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 12:58

dogstile: May 1, 2012; fucking clocks
how do they work?

rolleyes posted:

This is genuinely quite impressive and would have saved Sony Pictures a whole metric shitload of problems.

Yeah i'm not seeing a problem with that, that sounds fantastic.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 16:59

J: Jun 10, 2001

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

People who have to win Busy. These people who will list every single thing they have to do, while stressing the lunch that they're not going to take, because no man you don't even know dude, you just, I am SO busy.

We have a guy who will happily stand there yapping as long as you let him about just how busy he is and how much poo poo he has to do. If you have enough time to stand around for 30 loving minutes blabbing to anyone who will listen about how busy you are, you really aren't that drat busy now are you?

The same goes for people who have to the win the "who got less sleep last night" game. Oh man I only got 5 hours of last night im so tired! Dude I only got 3 hours tell me about it!!! Shut the gently caress up. I don't believe any of you fuckers anymore.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 18:28

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

If a discussion starts sounding like The Four Yorkshiremen then I bail on it pretty quickly.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 18:30

incoherent: Apr 24, 2004; 01010100011010000111001
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rolleyes posted:

This is genuinely quite impressive and would have saved Sony Pictures a whole metric shitload of problems.

No, their problems were inherent with the CIO. I keep reminding people this person fought auditors to prevent complex passwords from being implemented.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 19:09

Wizard of the Deep: Sep 25, 2005; Another productive workday

dogstile posted:

Yeah i'm not seeing a problem with that, that sounds fantastic.

The biggest problem is it's still a web interface. It's slow and the design cues were taken straight from an AOL CD offering 40 FREE HOURS A MONTH! It seriously takes half a dozen full page loads to actually get a password. When it works properly. In once instance, it took me almost half an hour to get an account last week.

# ? Jan 25, 2015 21:34

Alereon: Feb 6, 2004; Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed; College Slice

Ever had a customer freak out over the timing of a maintenance window for work they themselves scheduled and are performing? We have a customer that has private lines running over fiber that they, coincidentally, are the vendor for. Customer's repair department sent us a maintenance notification that the fiber would be down for a brief window (minutes) in a few days for a card replacement, so we sent a courtesy notification to their change management department that half of a redundant link pair would be down because of the fiber work (so no service impact).

They freaked out, rejecting the maintenance and demanded we work with our vendor (them) to postpone so that they had more notice and to reschedule for a later time*. When we explained that they were the ones doing the maintenance, they seriously expected us to escalate with their department doing the work (as we were the customer) to try to get it postponed. We basically told them to gently caress off and figure it out internally if they cared.

*site local time is so hard

E: In retrospect maybe this should have gone in a different thread, as I actually respect my boss for immediately nipping that poo poo in the bud.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 05:05

MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

J posted:

The same goes for people who have to the win the "who got less sleep last night" game. Oh man I only got 5 hours of last night im so tired! Dude I only got 3 hours tell me about it!!! Shut the gently caress up. I don't believe any of you fuckers anymore.

Thanks Ants posted:

If a discussion starts sounding like The Four Yorkshiremen then I bail on it pretty quickly.

Oh absolutely to both of your comments (and great reference!). I am not the kind of person who says "I'm tired today" lightly - I know a lot of people use it as basically a conversation starter, but I think I've said it twice in the last five years. I'm no more or less tired than other people, I just think it's a stupid thing to say. ("Start exercising and eating healthy, you tired piece of poo poo" is NOT a great conversation starter, by the way). That being said, I remember where I was standing and to whom I was talking when I made that fatal mistake. Hey Stripe, how ya doing? Man, I'm freakin tired today. Oh really how much sleep did you get last night?

It's at that point in the conversation that you're basically looking for something to light on fire so you can make your exit, because you know exactly what's following your answer no matter what you say.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 05:55

socialsecurity: Aug 30, 2003

I'm growing tired of working for ever demanding small time MSPs, I was hired at this job to "help out with the desktop stuff so others can work on projects" for about 35k since then I am responsible for virtualizing and plotting out entire servers/networks/software systems for an entire thousand employee hospital alone, as well as managing and planning out Sharepoint sites for 4-5 medium sized companies, then expected to be an expert in everything from Dental X-Ray machines to complex 3d printing devices while also doing standard Windows admin stuff and doing basic help desk poo poo like pick up the phone 50 times a day to reset people's passwords and fix their office all with no documentation(not even passwords half the time). It feels like if I did even a fraction of the poo poo I do at this place I would be making 3-4 times as much I really feel like the entire MSP system is built to take advantage of guys like me to give customers service that they aren't paying nearly enough for(but could afford)

# ? Jan 26, 2015 06:07

Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

Holy gently caress, where do you live? I would bounce immediately that's poo poo pay.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 06:10

meanieface: Mar 27, 2012; During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

It's at that point in the conversation that you're basically looking for something to light on fire so you can make your exit, because you know exactly what's following your answer no matter what you say.

A half serious comment about how people who nap are statistically more effective at their jobs and we should have a nap couch?

"Oh, that sucks. Want to get some coffee?" Is the only socially acceptable response there.

I can get a "yeah, me too" but don't try to one up someone when they say they're busy or feeling stressed or tired or the kids are sick with the flu. Show some empathy or :getout:

# ? Jan 26, 2015 06:11

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Tab8715 posted:

Holy gently caress, where do you live? I would bounce immediately that's poo poo pay.

That is ridiculously poo poo pay but I would kill for the chance to actually work with real technology at the MSP I work for.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 06:17

socialsecurity: Aug 30, 2003

Inspector_666 posted:

That is ridiculously poo poo pay but I would kill for the chance to actually work with real technology at the MSP I work for.

That's the only reason I haven't straight walked yet is I am learning quite a lot rather fast, turning that into a real job before I burn myself out is the trick I think.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 06:23

Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

socialsecurity posted:

That's the only reason I haven't straight walked yet is I am learning quite a lot rather fast, turning that into a real job before I burn myself out is the trick I think.

That's a decent plan, get the experience, finish some projects then bounce.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 06:25

Methylethylaldehyde: Oct 23, 2004; BAKA BAKA

Tab8715 posted:

That's a decent plan, get the experience, finish some projects then bounce.

As long as you have a good exit strategy, and enough fodder for the resume that you can bail, take a month or two to misplace the postal uniform and find a better job, then it can be really rewarding to get one of those 'these are your concrete lined running shoes, and there is the bottom of the pool we need cleaned, go nuts' type jobs.

Just make sure that when you say "I did all these things" you can prove it, and that your old manager won't lie to your new boss's face about who actually did the work.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 11:46

Crowley: Mar 13, 2003

I got started in this job on June 1st and was supposed to split my time 50/50 between the municipality schools and administration. Today we had a meeting with the City Manager (or Municipality Manager if you will) who outright said "School IT is running better now than it has in years.". That's a pretty drat nice way to start the week. :dance:

# ? Jan 26, 2015 11:54

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Oh absolutely to both of your comments (and great reference!). I am not the kind of person who says "I'm tired today" lightly - I know a lot of people use it as basically a conversation starter, but I think I've said it twice in the last five years. I'm no more or less tired than other people, I just think it's a stupid thing to say. ("Start exercising and eating healthy, you tired piece of poo poo" is NOT a great conversation starter, by the way). That being said, I remember where I was standing and to whom I was talking when I made that fatal mistake. Hey Stripe, how ya doing? Man, I'm freakin tired today. Oh really how much sleep did you get last night?

It's at that point in the conversation that you're basically looking for something to light on fire so you can make your exit, because you know exactly what's following your answer no matter what you say.

These people are almost always the same people who use work as an excuse to get out of the house and away from their family.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 14:28

Daylen Drazzi: Mar 10, 2007; Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Oh absolutely to both of your comments (and great reference!). I am not the kind of person who says "I'm tired today" lightly - I know a lot of people use it as basically a conversation starter, but I think I've said it twice in the last five years. I'm no more or less tired than other people, I just think it's a stupid thing to say. ("Start exercising and eating healthy, you tired piece of poo poo" is NOT a great conversation starter, by the way). That being said, I remember where I was standing and to whom I was talking when I made that fatal mistake. Hey Stripe, how ya doing? Man, I'm freakin tired today. Oh really how much sleep did you get last night?

It's at that point in the conversation that you're basically looking for something to light on fire so you can make your exit, because you know exactly what's following your answer no matter what you say.

Ha! I have you all beat - I didn't sleep at all last night. Oh, wait - I work 3rd shift. drat, I miss sleeping at night.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 14:28

evol262: Nov 30, 2010; #!/usr/bin/perl

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Just make sure that when you say "I did all these things" you can prove it, and that your old manager won't lie to your new boss's face about who actually did the work.

Your old manager won't be talking to your new boss about that anyway, and skills are demonstrable

# ? Jan 26, 2015 14:53

ocall: Dec 29, 2009

So with very little notice, I have been asked to "pack an overnight bag" and stay at the college during this blizzard. I this a reasonable request? Should I ask for additional compensation even though I'm salaried? (Could be snowed in until Wednesday)

# ? Jan 26, 2015 15:29

Sickening: Jul 16, 2007; Black summer was the best summer.

ocall posted:

So with very little notice, I have been asked to "pack an overnight bag" and stay at the college during this blizzard. I this a reasonable request? Should I ask for additional compensation even though I'm salaried? (Could be snowed in until Wednesday)

I would simply tell them "Sorry, but no thanks."

# ? Jan 26, 2015 15:30

mllaneza: Apr 28, 2007; Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

ocall posted:

So with very little notice, I have been asked to "pack an overnight bag" and stay at the college during this blizzard. I this a reasonable request? Should I ask for additional compensation even though I'm salaried? (Could be snowed in until Wednesday)

"Sure ! But I'm on the clock until I get to go home."

# ? Jan 26, 2015 15:49

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

mllaneza posted:

"Sure ! But I'm on the clock until I get to go home."

Great! Your salaried!

# ? Jan 26, 2015 15:51

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

ratbert90 posted:

Great! Your salaried!

In that case, he'll end up earning an additional two days in comp time.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 16:01

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

ratbert90 posted:

Great! Your salaried!

His salaried what?

:v:

# ? Jan 26, 2015 16:02

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Inspector_666 posted:

His salaried what?

I would blame being on a tablet but that was just me being terrible at English.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 16:04

ocall: Dec 29, 2009

I talked to my immediate supervisor and voiced my concerns. He was not able to convince the CIO that this was unnecessary, so he offered to stay in my place.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 16:11

spog: Aug 7, 2004; It's your own bloody fault.

ocall posted:

I talked to my immediate supervisor and voiced my concerns. He was not able to convince the CIO that this was unnecessary, so he offered to stay in my place.

He sounds like a caring and conscientious supervisor.

I give him 3 months.

# ? Jan 26, 2015 16:15

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# ? May 11, 2024 06:35

Muslim Wookie: Jul 6, 2005

LOL I wish it were surprising that this happened to IT workers but it's just not. 99% of y'all grew up privileged so you think this is just the way things are meant to be and won't speak up, but it's not. Name any other profession where that is a thing. Now name any single one that's not compensated for it.

Buh bow.

"Overnight? Sorry, am already doing anything but that. Specifically? Oh you think because we interact on a boss/employee level you have the right to ask that? No worries though, it's because I was planning on plowing your wife that night since your sorry rear end is to busy taking corporate dick."

But I guess I'm not a seppo so what would I know... WHeres my drat bourbon

# ? Jan 26, 2015 16:29

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