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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Pocket posted:

brb trying to forge a partnership with the hell's angels.

2 simultaneous negotiations

1 for them to use SR to facilitate distribution
1 for them to whack (up to) 5 dudes

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neonbregna
Aug 20, 2007

ruby idiot railed posted:

2 simultaneous negotiations

1 for them to use SR to facilitate distribution
1 for them to whack (up to) 5 dudes

can you imagine the pile of dead nerds there would be if hells angels got involved with butts

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe

ruby idiot railed posted:

yeah it was a case in the UK, daughter was actually acquitted/released because of extenuating circumstances with her mother, and it wasn't ricin but abrin, and it was off of black market reloaded

no, she got three years in prison for acquiring a toxin. she was acquitted of attempted murder because they couldn't prove that she ever actually went through with the poisoning.

it should not surprise anyone that this is the face of the man who sold her the poison.



19-year-old internet shithead from florida. pled guilty to 16 counts of producing and selling toxins and conspiracy to commit murder. statistically i will probably be dead before he gets out of federal prison.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Subjunctive posted:

was that relevant to this trial? I thought those were the Baltimore charges, and haven't been proven in court.

While they technically haven't, the evidence for "was a drug kingpin" is almost identical to the evidence for "ordered hits", so personally I don't see how he could end up not guilty.

But the legal system is a weird place

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

ruby idiot railed posted:

gentle reminder that this isn't 3 strikes mandatory minimum 20 years for a dimebag here

that's fair, he wasn't exactly dabbling. I guess I would feel better if the "mandatory minimum harsher than for child abuse" thing didn't get under my skin.

he broke the law, should be punished, all that. I just don't feel like breaking out the streamers and confetti about this part.

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe

Subjunctive posted:

was that relevant to this trial? I thought those were the Baltimore charges, and haven't been proven in court.

that's the beauty of what the prosecution did. they didn't charge him at all with any of the murder-for-hire stuff, they left that for the maryland authorities who had run their own investigation. they just charged him with running a secret web site that sold drugs and introduced as evidence chat logs showing him in his daily business of running a secret web site selling drugs and oh, here he is ordering and paying for the murders of six human beings as part of running a secret web site to sell drugs.

sarah said earlier that the jury members were literally "sitting on the edge of their seats" during that part of the testimony.

it's the climax of act 2 of the screenplay, where the clever prosecution turns the tables on the smug villain and his long slide into doom begins.

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

ross wasn't the wrong dude in the wrong place at the wrong time

all techno idiots are milling about in a desert with a thick white line of paint that they should not cross

i guarantee you that most yospos people following bitcoin have at considered at least once "well how would i do it", there are a lot of people here smarter than ross when it comes to topics of security and setting up websites (probably wouldnt do it in php of all loving things for starters), and not just yospos but other places on the internet

what separates people who do things like setting up a drug amazon/craigslist from people who don't is that most people realize that setting up something like this site is morally questionable and also extremely illegal and not worth the risk/reward

ross doesn't deserve the empathy you'd give a kid who discovered a peergroup that abuses meth and falls down that path, he comes from wealth and a caring family, he knows how to emulate compassion and be kind to others, he chose his stupid path, the one where conspicuously almost no one else was walking because of all the societal signs saying "dont loving bother"

MORE CURLY FRIES
Apr 8, 2004

if youre concerned about opsec one of the things youd have to think about is 'actually im a lot better off just not doing this in the first place'

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
new hampshire hearing starts in 30min (10AM EST)
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/live_audio.asp has Financial Institutions and Insurance's audio streaming listed as "pending"
they're dealing with four random bills + "testimony from invited guests concerning digital currency" so for all i know this could be hours of boring poo poo if it even does get streamed

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Mido posted:

not just yospos but other places on the internet

there are other places on the internet?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

fuctifino posted:

there are other places on the internet?

thats where we mine for laughs

faxlore
Sep 24, 2014

a blue star tattoo for you!

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

new hampshire hearing starts in 30min (10AM EST)
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/live_audio.asp has Financial Institutions and Insurance's audio streaming listed as "pending"
they're dealing with four random bills + "testimony from invited guests concerning digital currency" so for all i know this could be hours of boring poo poo if it even does get streamed

doesn't New Hampshire have some constitutional thing where every bill has to be heard? and the state is full of free state whack jobs?

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

MORE CURLY FRIES posted:

if youre concerned about opsec one of the things youd have to think about is 'actually im a lot better off just not doing this in the first place'

that's it really

the shared delusion with this particular crowd is that you can be the perfect criminal by being perfectly anonymous, well that involves perfect opsec but spoilers nobody's perfect and due to the consequences of engaging solely with that shared delusion once you're exposed (and ross was exposed loving repeatedly) you're hosed, and beyond the diary idiocy he's a loving retard for not cutting and running asap

and not you know, gloat while your poo poo castle is crumbling out from under you even without the feds getting involved, seemed like the feds twigged to him relatively late too

quote:

Usually you aren't indoctrinated in a belief in your own obvious superiority and infallibility tho

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Feb 5, 2015

Jerry Bindle
May 16, 2003
updated list of reasons to use bit coins

  • no fees
  • anonymous
  • run an online drug market
  • no charge backs

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe

faxlore posted:

doesn't New Hampshire have some constitutional thing where every bill has to be heard? and the state is full of free state whack jobs?

yeah, pages 379-380 elaborated on this, with at least one horrifying youtube video referenced.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice
also reminder that this was dpr 2.0

Dren posted:

"fbi how did you manage to follow him and keep track of his activities while he ran an enormous underground drug marketplace?"

"he was constantly tweeting his location!"

a lil' dash of the ol' narcissism, enabled by big data social networking

and this is some other dude who just couldn't wait to confess to everything online as soon as possible

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Feb 5, 2015

neonbregna
Aug 20, 2007

ruby idiot railed posted:

also reminder that this was dpr 2.0


a lil' dash of the ol' narcissism, enabled by big data social networking

and this is some other dude who just couldn't wait to confess to everything online as soon as possible

God drat he is going with the lol I sold the cop a bag of baking soda not cocaine defense and admits he was intending to launder his butts through his small business. is this reality

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Subjunctive posted:

that's fair, he wasn't exactly dabbling. I guess I would feel better if the "mandatory minimum harsher than for child abuse" thing didn't get under my skin.

he broke the law, should be punished, all that. I just don't feel like breaking out the streamers and confetti about this part.

yeah be careful with relativism, the goal of justice isn't to find the most horrible crime/fucker

also minimum sentences themselves aren't the issue, standardisation of justice is a good thing even at the possession level

the length of the sentences in the books right now is a whole other issue, especially without options to address addiction as a medical issue, in a medical setting

anyhow i hope ross gets the option for parole with his 25+ years, even after baltimore. he hosed up something fierce, but heh, second chances and all

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

whole lotta new posters itt suddenly

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
point VLC to http://rmserver.njleg.state.nj.us/ENCODER16 to get the Financial Institutions and Insurance audio stream

it's not bitcoin yet

Nerdlord Actual
Apr 14, 2007

Awaken to your true self with Wisconsin Potatoes
Grimey Drawer

As a Millennial I posted:

whole lotta new posters itt suddenly

The Grey Thread is now ensconced in the CREW CREW subforum.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004





dear god the first post went gold unbelievably fast

quote:

I just recently got raided by the authorities on the assumption that i was selling illegal products(specifically counterfeit monies and stolen credit card information). Now this wasn't at all true as i wasn't and hadn't ever sold any of those things. This is where the grey area comes in. I posed as though i sold those illegal products on the dark web, via hosting my own "scam sites" claiming to sell those things.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Phuzzy posted:

The White Thread is now ensconced in the CREW CREW subforum.

nobody deserves being a yobber

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Ross should see the positive side of things. At least he'll live longer now that he's going to spend his life behind bars, because there is no way that fuckup wouldn't get murdered in a few years if his business continued to operate. "Lol, we lost all our coins" doesn't cut it in certain circles.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

point VLC to http://rmserver.njleg.state.nj.us/ENCODER16 to get the Financial Institutions and Insurance audio stream

it's not bitcoin yet
it's bitcoin now. or at least the assemblyman is talking about how interesting bitcoin is

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

Phuzzy posted:

The Grey Thread is now ensconced in the CREW CREW subforum.

move it to pet island along with the cat thread

restingwitchface
Jan 21, 2015

(not a garbage dick)

triple sulk posted:

i was taking my gf to school just now and sarah was on npr during morning marketplace

my worlds are colliding

I did two more radio interviews while YOSPOSting, it was a long day yesterday :) Did I sound okay on NPR?

creatine
Jan 27, 2012




restingwitchface posted:

I did two more radio interviews while YOSPOSting, it was a long day yesterday :) Did I sound okay on NPR?

did you say buttcoin on npr

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




restingwitchface posted:

I did two more radio interviews while YOSPOSting, it was a long day yesterday :) Did I sound okay on NPR?

now you've made me imagine one of those soft-spoken npr hosts whispering "yospos, bitch" into the mic live on the air :allears:

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



restingwitchface posted:

I did two more radio interviews while YOSPOSting, it was a long day yesterday :) Did I sound okay on NPR?

it was like 6:50 am so I wasn't super awake but yeah I think so

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Pumpy Dumper posted:

did you say buttcoin on npr

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

restingwitchface posted:

I did two more radio interviews while YOSPOSting, it was a long day yesterday :) Did I sound okay on NPR?

gonna go install the npr app again so I can listen to your interview I guess

which other one did you do (aside from marketplace)?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Pumpy Dumper posted:

did you say buttcoin on npr

don't be silly

thats going to be saved for the butterfly labs case

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
one more post for the pile

thanks sarah (tharah) for giving us an inside line on the tech journalism event of the year

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

Subjunctive posted:

that's fair, he wasn't exactly dabbling. I guess I would feel better if the "mandatory minimum harsher than for child abuse" thing didn't get under my skin.

he broke the law, should be punished, all that. I just don't feel like breaking out the streamers and confetti about this part.

even if you're of the opinion that the usage of drugs should be decriminalized because the only people you're really hurting are yourself and the people around you when you fall into the downward spiral of addiction, i'd still contend that facilitating a couple million dollars of anonymous drug trade should get you more than a slap on the wrist

like, i'm down for calling the war on drugs a failure when it's putting poor people without two pennies to rub together in jail for life because they end up in positions where they literally have no good decisions they could make, especially when you have the wink-and-a-nudge "well he's a successful businessman" slap-on-the-wrist type judgements for doing the exact same drugs if you're a successful white male, but actually setting up a giant marketplace for selling poo poo should be a gently caress-you-overable offense regardless

especially when it involves putting out hits on people and selling literal non-subjective kills-you-dead-and-not-in-some-abstract-sense poison in the name of free speech


:spergin:

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice
oh that marketplace interview was like 2 questions and done :(

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

SynthOrange posted:

I want a book about Silk Road. :allears:

Not only are you getting a book, you're getting a full length featured film too!

http://deadline.com/2013/10/fox-sets-dennis-lehane-to-adapt-silk-road-613293/

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

restingwitchface posted:

I did two more radio interviews while YOSPOSting, it was a long day yesterday :) Did I sound okay on NPR?

please find a way to cover the upcoming BFL trial

someone may say buttcoin at that one

restingwitchface
Jan 21, 2015

(not a garbage dick)

FCKGW posted:

Not only are you getting a book, you're getting a full length featured film too!

http://deadline.com/2013/10/fox-sets-dennis-lehane-to-adapt-silk-road-613293/

There's also like four documentaries. I'd like to produce something longer-form about the story in its entirety.

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restingwitchface
Jan 21, 2015

(not a garbage dick)

ruby idiot railed posted:

gonna go install the npr app again so I can listen to your interview I guess

which other one did you do (aside from marketplace)?

I was live on BBC5 and I also did one for BBC World Service which is carried on NPR.

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