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The registration is in the vehicle, wait 4 months and then sign him up for every horrible twisted kind of porn and every free giveaway and membership club you can think of. Revenge is a dish best served cold, with no direct connection to you or way of proving one.
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metaxus posted:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA n'thing jacking off in dudes coffee. or the drivers seat of his shitmobile. whichever.
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Feb 15, 2015 00:27
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Use the coffee as lube while jacking off into his eye.
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cursedshitbox posted:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA Oops. I forgot. You're in the US... Carry on with the subtle sabotage instead.
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metaxus posted:Find a shop that doesn't treat you like a free gently caress-up fixing robot.  13" is master of his own destiny, his reach is allowed to exceed his grasp thanks to the wonder of a system that says a mechanic - any mechanic - can have the chance to make 80 book hours a day for only 50 minutes work, unrestrained by the petty requirements that they be paid only for the hours they spend, not what they achieve. You're a filthy communist is what you are.13: Send him to your old shop.
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Feb 15, 2015 00:37
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Is there really no way for a tech to refuse work? It would seem if you've spent way too much time on a poo poo show like this you could just give up the time for this job and it just passes onto the next poor soul. Or is it like Russian Roulette where once you pull the trigger you're stuck with whatever happens?
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Bajaha posted:Is there really no way for a tech to refuse work? It would seem if you've spent way too much time on a poo poo show like this you could just give up the time for this job and it just passes onto the next poor soul. Look to your heart and tell me what you truly believe.
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Bajaha posted:Or is it like Russian Roulette where once you pull the trigger you're stuck with whatever happens? Pretty much. Even in the event you're somehow able to shove it off on another tech, number one you've now done all the work for free, and number two you'll basically be a marked man for the rest of your time at the shop and no one will want anything to do with you. Techs are completely hosed in the US unless they find that unicorn that is a shop with a decent manager (and I mean decent in the character sense). There's a reason I'm willing to spend a whole nother four years in school to get my engineering degree after 2 years of school and 2 years at a shop.
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Fucknag posted:Pretty much. Even in the event you're somehow able to shove it off on another tech, number one you've now done all the work for free, and number two you'll basically be a marked man for the rest of your time at the shop and no one will want anything to do with you. I moved to the uk from the us about 8 years ago and I will never move back to the us while I'm still wrenching on cars. Ive worked flat rate and I'll never do it again.
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:Look to your heart and tell me what you truly believe. 
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Bajaha posted:Is there really no way for a tech to refuse work? It would seem if you've spent way too much time on a poo poo show like this you could just give up the time for this job and it just passes onto the next poor soul. Can't let the underclass get uppity by letting them have personal agency. If you did, soon they might even get the nerve to ask for a livable wage! 
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Raluek posted:Can't let the underclass get uppity by letting them have personal agency. If you did, soon they might even get the nerve to ask for a livable wage!
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I just checked my hours though and including the Yukon I somehow still earned 46 this week  Man if it hadnt been for that loving boat anchor I may have had my first legitmate 60 hour week. I was absolutely convinced that I had barely broken 30, there were almost two whole days just lit on fire.
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iwentdoodie posted:Use the coffee as lube while jacking off into his eye. When you put it like that... I can see where you're coming from.
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Feb 15, 2015 02:13
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 Various gently caress ups we keep at work
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I remember many many years ago when I worked for Mazda we had an FD RX-7 come in after it had a new turbo fitted at one of the dealerships. Actually not that difficult a job, no idea why it went so wrong, initially, but after fitting the turbo and the tech test driving it the car died and wouldn't start or turn over. Turns out he had left a 10mm nut inside the turbo manifold that had fallen into the combustion chamber when he took off facing down hill. It left a whole bunch of little hexagonal indents on the rotor face. We ended up doing a full engine, and the good parts ended up finding their way into my boss' race car. We kept the hosed rotor on the wall of shame. That was the only example I can remember now, but we had some egregious fuckups on that wall.
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Memento posted:I remember many many years ago when I worked for Mazda we had an FD RX-7 come in after it had a new turbo fitted at one of the dealerships. Actually not that difficult a job, no idea why it went so wrong, initially, but after fitting the turbo and the tech test driving it the car died and wouldn't start or turn over. Turns out he had left a 10mm nut inside the turbo manifold that had fallen into the combustion chamber when he took off facing down hill. It left a whole bunch of little hexagonal indents on the rotor face. We ended up doing a full engine, and the good parts ended up finding their way into my boss' race car. We kept the hosed rotor on the wall of shame. That was the only example I can remember now, but we had some egregious fuckups on that wall.
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corn in the fridge posted:I moved to the uk from the us about 8 years ago and I will never move back to the us while I'm still wrenching on cars. Ive worked flat rate and I'll never do it again. I work at a bike shop and we only do basic stuff like tires and oil on flat rate billing and none of us are paid on flat rate. Having worked on the poo poo that I've worked on (a lot of older bikes, engine rebuilds, restorations) it's hard for me to imagine ever doing flat rate. I guess if everything you worked on was <10 years old and all you did was tires.
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I start work at 8, finish at 5. I get paid 8.5 hours a day (half an hour subtracted for my lunch break). OT is calculated as chunks of .5 hours. Downside is I don't get any kind of incentive or bonus for doing time consuming poo poo in a timely manner. I get a pat on the back and the company just swallows up the extra profit from efficiency. I also have to be the defacto boss of a handful of braindead apes and there is no legal or social pressure on my employer to pay me extra for doing this; I just have to do it to be 'one of the team!' even though it isn't remotely my contracted job. The commonwealth is aptly named 
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My general assessment of flat rate is that it puts you in a similar position to being self-employed, only with zero control over what you charge and which jobs you take. Is there anything like an "independent mechanics" shop around? Somewhere you, say, pay a given amount to rent a bay in a garage unit (with a lift and shop air etc), but you're an independent entity and can run your own little one-man show like a self-employed garage owner, only in a shop with half a dozen other people doing the same thing. InitialDave fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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InitialDave posted:My general assessment of flat rate is that it puts you in a similar position to being self-employed, only with zero control over what you charge and which jobs you take. That's my take on it too. In HVAC I was paid for the hours I worked for my employer. $30/hr, 8hr a day. I have done flat rate though, when I was self employed and had contracts for warranty work. That's the only time you'll come across it here, running your own business and choosing to do warranty work. Of course even then you can still do your $90/hr private jobs mostly, just squeeze some flat rate warranty stuff in when you're not busy or are near by. e: manufacturers pay dealers flat rate for warranty work too, which is why dealers hate warranty work. But it's the dealer getting paid flat rate, not the mechanic. Flat rate only affects businesses, not employees down here. It would be illegal to treat an employee like a subcontractor when the employee has no say in their hours, pay rate and other free agent things. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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InitialDave posted:My general assessment of flat rate is that it puts you in a similar position to being self-employed, only with zero control over what you charge and which jobs you take. Insurance.
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Midjack posted:Insurance. There's a DIY garage in the city that I live in that will rent any Joe off the street a bay with a lift and a full set of hand tools for $30/hr, the mechanics co-op type thing Initial D is talking about can't cost more to insure than that
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InitialDave posted:My general assessment of flat rate is that it puts you in a similar position to being self-employed, only with zero control over what you charge and which jobs you take. In the heart of Chicago there is about four of these. Bring your own tools hire your own work. At the tune of 500$ a month. There usually nice lifts some dude put in his garage and wants to make some money back. I would kill for one closer to me but I don't feel like fighting Chicago traffic just for a lift.
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Memento posted:I remember many many years ago when I worked for Mazda we had an FD RX-7 come in after it had a new turbo fitted at one of the dealerships. Actually not that difficult a job, no idea why it went so wrong, initially, but after fitting the turbo and the tech test driving it the car died and wouldn't start or turn over. Turns out he had left a 10mm nut inside the turbo manifold that had fallen into the combustion chamber when he took off facing down hill. It left a whole bunch of little hexagonal indents on the rotor face. We ended up doing a full engine, and the good parts ended up finding their way into my boss' race car. We kept the hosed rotor on the wall of shame. That was the only example I can remember now, but we had some egregious fuckups on that wall. Holy poo poo, the dealership paid for the repairs right? Right??? 
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Fo3 posted:That's my take on it too. In HVAC I was paid for the hours I worked for my employer. $30/hr, 8hr a day. Yeah this. If the manufacturer says the repair takes 3 hours and it actually takes seven hours because of shockingly bad design, the dealer has to suck it up and pay the difference. Then there are various incentives to be a good corporate rear end kisser and take on as many warranty jobs as possible, like the various certifications and poo poo which make the dealership more likely to be involved in stuff like new advertising campaigns, new model releases, get a decent chunk of any runs of limited edition vehicles etc.
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Midjack posted:Insurance. Seems like if you had the money to invest in the property but didn't want to actually run a garage business, you could do reasonably well off it, and I bet mechanics used to flat-rate chain work would do a lot better. SouthsideSaint posted:In the heart of Chicago there is about four of these. Bring your own tools hire your own work. At the tune of 500$ a month. There usually nice lifts some dude put in his garage and wants to make some money back. I would kill for one closer to me but I don't feel like fighting Chicago traffic just for a lift.
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Slavvy posted:Then there are various incentives to be a good corporate rear end kisser and take on as many warranty jobs as possible, like the various certifications and poo poo which make the dealership more likely to be involved in stuff like new advertising campaigns, new model releases, get a decent chunk of any runs of limited edition vehicles etc.  After hanging around industry forums, I actually got some info from people who worked at the manufacturers or were factory techs that hung out there after hours, and that's the most help I ever got. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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You guys ever try to put an ac line on a PT Cruisers high pressure port?
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If I won the lottery* and were to buy a garage with four lifts and a nice storefront, would goons move to Phoenix to work/be self employed there? (* I will never, because I don't play)
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Geirskogul posted:If I won the lottery* and were to buy a garage with four lifts and a nice storefront, would goons move to Phoenix to work/be self employed there? I'm not a mechanic but I have good customer service skills and the ability to translate between "no clue what I'm saying" and "been wrenching for 50 years" types.
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Geirskogul posted:If I won the lottery* and were to buy a garage with four lifts and a nice storefront, would goons move to Phoenix to work/be self employed there? As your shop engineer, I recommend you hire me as your shop engineer.
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:You guys ever try to put an ac line on a PT Cruisers high pressure port? I offer free hugs to those who have been abused by the PT Cruiser. They were horrible to work on when they were new thanks to poor design. Now that they have been exposed to the elements its ten fold.
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SouthsideSaint posted:I offer free hugs to those who have been abused by the PT Cruiser. They were horrible to work on when they were new thanks to poor design. Now that they have been exposed to the elements its ten fold. 2 scars on my left hand from working on PT Cruisers. gently caress them.
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I don't see it. Where'd it go? Red circle, anyone?
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InitialDave posted:No, like rscott picked up on, I don't mean for any Tom, Dick or Harry to use as and when, I mean for working mechanics like 13" to hire/lease on an ongoing basis so they can be self-employed without the buy-in of their own place. Insurance would still be a nightmare. I think the only way something like this could work is if a group of independent mechanics started a shop as part a co-op or else incorporated, and everyone has an equal stake and insurance is dealt with by a single entity. I can't imagine an insurer writing a liability policy covering a mechanic who rents space but isn't in the employ of the owner of the shop, and even if the independent mechanics all had their own insurance the shop owner would still have to carry some kind of umbrella policy that would be difficult to obtain and/or too expensive for the whole setup to be profitable.
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Taco Box posted:I don't see it. Where'd it go? Red circle, anyone? Keep looking because its literally a red circular fitting 
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 Low pedal, grinding noise at all speeds.  Don't go shoving hockey pucks into your suspensions, kids.  Bonus pic, ironically taken at a Toyota dealership. Apologies for the lovely resolutions, I have a 30 dollar phone.
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Sidakafitz posted:
Hell, I have a ~$200 phone with a broken camera, you're doin alright.
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Any time someone makes fun of me for my fliphone I drop it of the floor from chest level, then I dare them to do it with their iPhone.
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