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Tivac: Feb 18, 2003; No matter how things may seem to change, never forget who you are

I really love pdf.js and how it renders. Maybe I'm just broken?

# ? Feb 19, 2015 23:58

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 08:15

the littlest prince: Sep 23, 2006

Usually when I open a pdf in Firefox half the content just plain doesn't render.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 00:16

xamphear: Apr 9, 2002; SILK FOR CALDÉ!

Geemer posted:

Firefox just added Firefox Hello to itself today. It's not even after installing any updates or anything. And it wasn't there earlier this week as I was fiddling with the toolbars to get uBlock situated and didn't see it at all.

I really wish they'd stop adding these useless features and would instead work on getting their built-in PDF reader to not render like hot poo poo.

Oh cool, I'm glad it's not just me. I had the Hello icon removed from my toolbar after the feature rolled out, but it randomly put itself back either yesterday or today. I have auto-updating turned off, so it wasn't that. I wonder if there's just some bug where the icon goes back into your toolbar randomly.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 00:31

Double Punctuation: Dec 30, 2009; Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!

Jippa posted:

Will HTTP/2 speed up streaming or is it just to do with web browsing?

HTTP/2 compresses headers into something more compact. For instance, here's the response for a first visit to forums.somethingawful.com:

code:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:40:23 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Connection: close
Cache-Control: private, no-cache, pre-check=0, post-check=0
Expires: 0
Pragma: no-cache
X-Backend: forums5

Everything before the colons except the "X-Backend" are standard keywords. HTTP/2 has a custom compression scheme that lets it shrink that text into something humans can't read but that computers can still easily understand. How much that helps streaming depends on how the streaming is done. If it's transmitted over HTTP, those headers can add up over time, and having a more efficient protocol is a great benefit. However, it's not a magic cure for video stuttering; it's a more general improvement meant to save tiny amounts of bandwidth in a very large number of places.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 04:51

Jippa: Feb 13, 2009

dpbjinc posted:

HTTP/2 compresses headers into something more compact. For instance, here's the response for a first visit to forums.somethingawful.com:
code:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:40:23 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Connection: close
Cache-Control: private, no-cache, pre-check=0, post-check=0
Expires: 0
Pragma: no-cache
X-Backend: forums5
Everything before the colons except the "X-Backend" are standard keywords. HTTP/2 has a custom compression scheme that lets it shrink that text into something humans can't read but that computers can still easily understand. How much that helps streaming depends on how the streaming is done. If it's transmitted over HTTP, those headers can add up over time, and having a more efficient protocol is a great benefit. However, it's not a magic cure for video stuttering; it's a more general improvement meant to save tiny amounts of bandwidth in a very large number of places.

Thanks

# ? Feb 20, 2015 07:56

Implied Consent: Jul 6, 2006

Start a conversation?
Share this page?
Get hosed!

# ? Feb 20, 2015 12:16

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

When I started using uBlock I loved how many resources it freed up. But I still kept have Firefox eat everything and freeze. I knew it was from all the YouTube threads with embedded videos I read, they utterly kill my machine. A user linked the Greasemonky extension YouTube Link Title but I had tried it before and hated it because it didn't play well with SA Last Read and it opened its own video player as a popup whenever you clicked on a link.

On the plus side, it does turn a video link in a post from a string of gibberish into the actual title of the video and brings up a thumbnail of the video.

But goddamn, I hated that player that would pop up floating in the middle of the screen. It meant I would have the embedded video playing in the page and a floating video playing over it at the same time. All using up even more resources.

Messing around looking at the code (I am not skilled at reading code, so it was more 'wrecking things until it broke in the way I wanted it to'), I figured out that if I just commented out any line in the greasemonkey script starting with "embed:function" it would stop the horrible popup player from, well, popping up and playing.

I've also turned off embedded videos in the forums Control Panel and now my YouTube threads look like this:

SA:LR will still open an embedded video window if I click on the link but, until I do, it's not taking up any resources on my machine and I can see what every link is.

And now I can even view the previously lethal PYF <30 Second YouTube Vids without my machine falling over.

Probably not all the helpful to most people, but my computer is getting old now and I need all the extra resources I can spare. It's great not having to sacrifice my browsing experience too much while not having to worry about having as many crashes.

# ? Feb 21, 2015 13:06

dwarkanath: Oct 1, 2014; A plethora of infinities.

MikusR posted:

The 36 beta notes say "Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube. Full support is on the way"

Yes, I believe Youtube is sending HTML5 video to Beta 36, however MSE is only on Aurora 37. So once they bump all the versions this week Beta will be 37 and video should work much better. They got held up by a version because MSE wasn't ready for prime time. But I don't believe Youtube will be sending HTML5 video to Release 36. They are supposed to wait till 37?

# ? Feb 24, 2015 11:21

jeeves: May 27, 2001; Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire

I really love Firefox, especially for its customizations-- and case in point it seems like every new version I find something new that I think "wow, I'll never use that, but good on them for including the option for it I guess?" Most other browsers just force their changes without letting you disable them.

Immediately deleting their new video chat button was a good example of this, however my new question is the deleting/disabling of the small green plus sign on the search engine for 'add this search engine?'

# ? Feb 25, 2015 00:38

Bieeanshee: Aug 21, 2000; Not keen on keening.; Grimey Drawer

The chat thing likes to add itself back every few updates, but it's inobtrusive enough that I don't usually notice for a while. As much as I'll bitch about changes sometimes, Firefox really is lovely about letting me bodge around them and fiddle with the way things work beyond that.

# ? Feb 25, 2015 04:44

Im_Special: Jan 2, 2011; Look At This!!! WOW!
It's F*cking Nothing.

The chat thing was unintentionally added as a result of the button ID being changed. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1136300

# ? Feb 25, 2015 05:51

Superb Owls: Nov 3, 2012

Before I go off and replace ABP with uBlock, I just want to know if it has something similar to ABP's Element Hiding Helper and Pop-Up Addon because I'm not changing unless I know that uBlock can give me those features. That and does it have a good UI?

# ? Feb 25, 2015 16:55

m2pt5: May 18, 2005; THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK

I don't know about the pop-up thing, but ublock does have its own version of the element hiding helper built-in.

# ? Feb 25, 2015 18:33

xamphear: Apr 9, 2002; SILK FOR CALDÉ!

Are 3rd party popup blockers still a thing? I know Firefox's built in system isn't perfect, a few get through, but it's never stuck me as bad enough to drive me to install yet another addon.

# ? Feb 25, 2015 18:50

Geemer: Nov 4, 2010

Superb Owls posted:

Before I go off and replace ABP with uBlock, I just want to know if it has something similar to ABP's Element Hiding Helper and Pop-Up Addon because I'm not changing unless I know that uBlock can give me those features. That and does it have a good UI?

The element hider built into uBlock is quite a lot better than anything ABP or ABP's Element Hiding Helper every had going, allowing for far more detailed filters creation (Nth of <element type>) automatically that can block stuff that would otherwise cause unwanted casualties.
Not sure about the popup thing, never used it. ABP always did the thing where the popup windows appeared and immediately closed before loading anything, uBlock does this too.

# ? Feb 25, 2015 19:00

xamphear: Apr 9, 2002; SILK FOR CALDÉ!

Keyword priority in the URL bar is still broken in version 36. Does anyone know if there's an open bug for it? I found a thread on mozillazine about it, but it didn't get much attention.

# ? Feb 25, 2015 20:33

Nalin: Sep 29, 2007; Hair Elf

Has anybody been noticing image download problems in Firefox 36? I am getting a lot of incomplete and mangled image downloads after upgrading. Browsing a thread with lots of images really makes it apparent as only half the image will load. Often times user avatars won't load while paging through threads and whatnot. I couldn't find any information on it, so I thought I would check and see if it was just me.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 07:54

hooah: Feb 6, 2006; WTF?

Recently I've noticed that I can't access tabs from recent devices on my desktop; it's just grayed out. It works fine from my laptop and phone. Is a profile reset on the desktop necessary, or more of a last resort? If the latter, what can I try first?

# ? Feb 26, 2015 15:50

Xinlum: Apr 12, 2009; Merry Christmas to all, and to all a Dark Knight

So years ago when Personas came out, some goon made one with the get out frog in the upper right corner saying get out. I just did a wipe/reinstall and can't find it anywhere. Can anyone help me out? The frog is integral to my browsing experience.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 18:04

NyxBiker: Sep 24, 2014

Can someone explain me why Firefox has a smoother (I don't like it though, that's why I'm on Chrome) scrolling bar? It is weird while I read stuff.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 18:07

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

NyxBiker posted:

Can someone explain me why Firefox has a smoother (I don't like it though, that's why I'm on Chrome) scrolling bar? It is weird while I read stuff.

Options>Advanced>General>Use smooth scrolling - clear the check box.

# ? Feb 26, 2015 18:14

Gizmo Chicken: Feb 17, 2011; Yep.

Xinlum posted:

So years ago when Personas came out, some goon made one with the get out frog in the upper right corner saying get out. I just did a wipe/reinstall and can't find it anywhere. Can anyone help me out? The frog is integral to my browsing experience.

Here you go.

# ? Feb 27, 2015 03:34

Xinlum: Apr 12, 2009; Merry Christmas to all, and to all a Dark Knight

So I got my frog back by just copying my old profile actually. I just saw your post. However now Firefox refuses to stay logged in to any website. I think this has something to do with the old cookie manager plug-in I removed. Any help?

# ? Feb 28, 2015 18:02

Chilled Milk: Jun 22, 2003; No one here is alone,
satellites in every home

Xinlum posted:

So I got my frog back by just copying my old profile actually. I just saw your post. However now Firefox refuses to stay logged in to any website. I think this has something to do with the old cookie manager plug-in I removed. Any help?

Check your privacy settings and make sure you're accepting cookies

# ? Feb 28, 2015 20:03

Xinlum: Apr 12, 2009; Merry Christmas to all, and to all a Dark Knight

The Milkman posted:

Check your privacy settings and make sure you're accepting cookies

Always accept until expire.

# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:00

Venusy: Feb 21, 2007

Is there any way to either restore the old search bar or to make it so it pops up the new selection box if you just give the search bar focus without typing anything? My workflow to get to the main page of some sites was to select them from the search dropdown box and do a blank search, but this is no longer an option with 36.

# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:43

astral: Apr 26, 2004

Venusy posted:

Is there any way to either restore the old search bar or to make it so it pops up the new selection box if you just give the search bar focus without typing anything? My workflow to get to the main page of some sites was to select them from the search dropdown box and do a blank search, but this is no longer an option with 36.

Set browser.search.showOneOffButtons to false in about :config.

# ? Mar 1, 2015 03:17

johnny sack: Jan 30, 2004; One day, this team will play to their expectations...

Just not this year..

When I use bing.com for a search engine, I cannot turn my search settings to anything but Moderate. This happens only if I am logged into my Microsoft account. It also only happens on my laptop when I use Firefox (version 36.0). However, if I am on my laptop and I log out of my Microsoft account, then I can change the search settings to Off (so I can see naked ladies obviously). But if I log in, it stays on Moderate - I can't change it to Strict or Off. On my PC, whether I am logged in or not, I can change the search settings to Off/Moderate/Strict with no problems.

Has anyone experienced this?

Not sure why but clearing cookies fixed it.

johnny sack fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Mar 1, 2015

# ? Mar 1, 2015 22:01

Alereon: Feb 6, 2004; Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed; College Slice

Firefox 37 Beta trip report: Youtube is working pretty drat well, including 1080p60.

# ? Mar 2, 2015 15:18

Superb Owls: Nov 3, 2012

Well, I finally took the plunge and decided to install uBlock. It's OK, but there's only one problem I have with it: I can't directly subscribe to any ABP subscriptions without having to do any manual work. Are the devs aware of that and if so, are they doing anything about it?

Also, for some unexplained reason, I can't get the "reload image" option whenever I right click a broken image. Is there a way to fix that?

Superb Owls fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Mar 2, 2015

# ? Mar 2, 2015 17:22

Alereon: Feb 6, 2004; Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed; College Slice

Superb Owls posted:

Well, I finally took the plunge and decided to install uBlock. It's OK, but there's only one problem I have with it: I can't directly subscribe to any ABP subscriptions without having to do any manual work. Are the devs aware of that and if so, are they doing anything about it?

What problem are you having? What happens when you go to the "3rd Party Filters" tab, check the box next to the subscription, then click "Update now"?

# ? Mar 2, 2015 20:01

xarph: Jun 18, 2001

On Chrome I used uMatrix to replace noscript. With uBlock alone is there much of a reason to keep running NoScript on Firefox? I liked uMatrix's UI much more than NoScript but there's no Firefox port of that.

# ? Mar 2, 2015 20:05

Read: Dec 21, 2010

uBlock and NoScript do different things, so yes.

# ? Mar 2, 2015 20:44

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

People use bing?

Seconding the youtube stuff, at least on Windows. I need to test some more on Linux.

Aside from the goddamn "HEY YOUTUBE IS FULLSCREEN NOW DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN HIT ESC TO EXIT FULLSCREEN ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT IT TO BE FULLSCREEN!?!?!!? OKAY BYE" that pops up every time you pause it

# ? Mar 2, 2015 21:11

Double Punctuation: Dec 30, 2009; Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!

annapacketstormaya posted:

People use bing?

Seconding the youtube stuff, at least on Windows. I need to test some more on Linux.

Aside from the goddamn "HEY YOUTUBE IS FULLSCREEN NOW DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN HIT ESC TO EXIT FULLSCREEN ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT IT TO BE FULLSCREEN!?!?!!? OKAY BYE" that pops up every time you pause it

That's there for a very good reason. Otherwise, Web sites could guess what your screen might look like, go fullscreen, and display a fake copy of some authentication dialog on your computer. It probably won't trick you, but it would probably trick Grandma or Office Drone #170 at Big Company Inc.

# ? Mar 2, 2015 21:32

Avenging Dentist: Oct 1, 2005; oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

annapacketstormaya posted:

Aside from the goddamn "HEY YOUTUBE IS FULLSCREEN NOW DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN HIT ESC TO EXIT FULLSCREEN ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT IT TO BE FULLSCREEN!?!?!!? OKAY BYE" that pops up every time you pause it

It only happens when you enter fullscreen, not when you pause/unpause. I think your computer is broken.

# ? Mar 2, 2015 21:36

wanda: Dec 8, 2010

I used to love Firefox. Then uBlock and PDF.js became available for Chromium and I abandoned FF for Chromium's better dev tools. I'm a fairweather browser supporter and a harlot.

Now Firefox is just a testing browser to me, like Safari and IE. I wish it wasn't like that because I really like how extensively I can tailot the UI.

How are people finding the Firefox Android app?

annapacketstormaya posted:

People use bing?

Heresy. It cannot be true.

# ? Mar 2, 2015 22:06

effika: Jun 19, 2005; Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

wanda posted:

How are people finding the Firefox Android app?

I like it better than Chrome, since it doesn't crash a lot or require root to or to get rid of ads. The Android App thread hates that it doesn't have the thumb-zoom that Chrome does, instead requiring you to double-tap on text or pinch-to-zoom.

# ? Mar 2, 2015 22:21

isndl: May 2, 2012; I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

annapacketstormaya posted:

People use bing?

Bing is widely regarded as being super good for porn, if nothing else.

wanda posted:

How are people finding the Firefox Android app?

So far it's running fairly well on my phone, but I'm not a heavy browser (I have apps for Awful, etc.) and it's a recently purchased flagship phone beefy enough to shrug off loads that would have crippled my old one. I put u Adblock on it, which despite the name doesn't seem to be related to uBlock at all, and I haven't noticed a performance issue.

# ? Mar 2, 2015 22:56

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 08:15

Chilled Milk: Jun 22, 2003; No one here is alone,
satellites in every home

wanda posted:

Chromium's better dev tools.

What do you find better about them? Because I ran the other way, especially with Firefox DE letting me easily partition work and personal loving around

# ? Mar 2, 2015 22:56

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