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Pookum posted:its crazy how many supposedly high tech companies have data leaks. I used to work for a company that notified people they had their info breached. Kaiser permanente the bay area hospital had a huge leak and so did cisco.friggin cisco. all of your personal info is out there unprotected on some companies servers that you did business with years ago. it happens monthly. When Sony had that huge leak a couple of years ago, didn't it come out that their info was stored in plain text?
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it's actually extremely scary how shoddy the security practices are of almost every company out there. there's just tons of software out there now and the rate of change is immense. much of this software is very old. it will all get hacked/cracked in due time. even the new stuff.
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Feb 28, 2015 14:42
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Probably Sony yeah, I only dealt with American companies tho. You would poo poo a brick If you knew how many companies store ssn 's in plain text
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Feb 28, 2015 14:55
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Pookum posted:Probably Sony yeah, I only dealt with American companies tho. You would poo poo a brick If you knew how many companies store ssn 's in plain text Im guessing pretty much all of them that havent had a public hacking incident and even some that have
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Feb 28, 2015 15:13
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thathonkey posted:Im guessing pretty much all of them that havent had a public hacking incident and even some that have yup . stored on laptops that are routinely used for porn browsing and stolen out of rental cars how about these nerds disrupt the crypto tech scene  
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Feb 28, 2015 15:18
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Pookum posted:yup . stored on laptops that are routinely used for porn browsing and stolen out of rental cars Cause that would involve doing something with actual benefit. Company i work for was gonna force everyone to run full disk encryption on work issue computers but then they decided to cut budget instead and the plan got nixed in favor of a forced security compliance online training. Cause thatll definitely help avoid getting my computer stolen from my trunk or home since im required to take it with me every night.
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Feb 28, 2015 15:22
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thathonkey posted:it's actually extremely scary how shoddy the security practices are of almost every company out there. there's just tons of software out there now and the rate of change is immense. much of this software is very old. it will all get hacked/cracked in due time. even the new stuff. If you have a.pfx certificate with a password you should store the password in a plain text file on a network share where the entire company has read permission with the pfx certificate in the same folder (no joke).
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Feb 28, 2015 15:36
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sounds about right. also when these data breaches happen the companies really dont even change their security at all. All they legally have to do is let the affected customers know their info was breached, and tahts only if they cant keep the breach a secret.
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The entire system is utterly broken from top to bottom when it comes to preventing identity theft. Everything is designed to have the least amount of security possible. For example, companies are allowed to collect and use your SSN. This shouldn't happen at all. Ever. And look at the SSN itself; it's literally a username AND password combined into one short string of numbers. Then look at the fact that there are essentially no penalties (and certainly no consequences that companies have to bear) for a company that negligently loses your personal information. It's absolutely no wonder that people get their identity stolen constantly. It's a system designed to fail.
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Yeah pretty much every utility and cell phone company requires you to give your SSN these days it seems like. Not just the last 4.
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revmoo posted:The entire system is utterly broken from top to bottom when it comes to preventing identity theft. Everything is designed to have the least amount of security possible. Well the SSN wasn't designed to be used as a password, its just a lazyass thing companies have started to use it for The same companies who don't give two shits if your info is stolen because IT is expensive. Honestly it seems like there's only one major side at fault here
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So a friend of mine is thinking about getting a Tesla... I know we joke about them here from time to time but I don't know if they're actually good investments as a car for people who can afford them. Thoughts? Anyone have any hard evidence for/against besides the CEO being kind of a tool?
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thathonkey posted:So a friend of mine is thinking about getting a Tesla... I know we joke about them here from time to time but I don't know if they're actually good investments as a car for people who can afford them. Thoughts? Anyone have any hard evidence for/against besides the CEO being kind of a tool? well they're not investments. it's a car. as far as i know it's a good car and from what i hear it's a lot of fun to drive.
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Concerned Citizen posted:well they're not investments. it's a car. as far as i know it's a good car and from what i hear it's a lot of fun to drive. obviously i meant investment as in spending a lot of money on something that is meant to last you for a while not as in something that is going to make you money... sorry. anyway, yeah i hear the same. but what if they start having mechanical problems? are you SOL? have to take it to the dealership or are there actually independent mechanics who work on them? also, what if you don't have a garage? what do you do with the charging equipment if you, say, live in an apartment complex?
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thathonkey posted:So a friend of mine is thinking about getting a Tesla... I know we joke about them here from time to time but I don't know if they're actually good investments as a car for people who can afford them. Thoughts? Anyone have any hard evidence for/against besides the CEO being kind of a tool? I know this thread hates techies but this is the first time I'm hearing someone call Elon Musk a "tool." The guy has a few quirks (who doesn't?) but seriously, he's ridiculously down-to-earth and a very nice guy, and super smart to boot. And unlike lovely software startups, he's actually tackling very difficult problems (all hardware-based) and he's not afraid to spend his own money on them, down to literally the last penny. In terms of Tesla, I wouldn't call the an "investment" but they're super nice if you can afford one. Extremely high quality engineering, amazing performance and safety, and very pleasant to drive (and also be in, as a passenger).
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yes yes I'm sure they're nice and luxurious and fast etc. they cost enough to be so i'd be more surprised if they weren't those things. i'm wondering more about long-term practicality of owning and maintaining one since they're so new/high-tech? you can just ignore that I got a cheap jab in on elon musk and whatnot if that helps. thanks
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thathonkey posted:anyway, yeah i hear the same. but what if they start having mechanical problems? are you SOL? have to take it to the dealership or are there actually independent mechanics who work on them? They have 24-hour free roadside assistance and a valet service that seamlessly picks up your car and replaces it with a loaner. I wouldn't recommend one for someone who doesn't have easy access to an outlet in their residence, since overnight charging is a big part of the convenience. This is getting better though as public charging stations become more common. Five years from now it may be a different story. thathonkey posted:yes yes I'm sure they're nice and luxurious and fast etc. they cost enough to be so i'd be more surprised if they weren't those things. i'm wondering more about long-term practicality of owning and maintaining one since they're so new/high-tech? you can just ignore that I got a cheap jab in on elon musk and whatnot if that helps. thanks I think long distance (500+ mile) trips are a concern for some people, especially if they don't have the highest range model. And the car's ability to perform well in extremely cold weather conditions has popped up in a few reviews, but I don't know if that's still the case. Slow News Day fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Tesla is doing a lifetime (power train?) warranty now on all cars if I recall correctly, so I'd say on that note, it's a better deal than anything else you're dropping that kind of money on, so long as the company stays in business.
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I'm waiting for him to release the Dragon Capsule. It's a bit more expensive, but you can't beat the range.
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Ultraklystron posted:Tesla is doing a lifetime (power train?) warranty now on all cars if I recall correctly, so I'd say on that note, it's a better deal than anything else you're dropping that kind of money on, so long as the company stays in business. I have a friend who tried getting an extended warranty on his Porsche and the dealer straight up told him you don't want to be driving it after 3 years
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WhyteRyce posted:I have a friend who tried getting an extended warranty on his Porsche and the dealer straight up told him you don't want to be driving it after 3 years the dealership probably has an ulterior motive but they're also probably right about that haha
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Tesla is a basically a car company with dot.com like stock behavior
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yeah that's my main concern (well besides the lack of independent mechanics that can work on these cars but i guess that's a non-issue for people rich enough to afford them or whatever. this valet service sounds ok i guess but what if your poo poo runs out of battery in the middle of nowhere? it just sounds really impractical right now all around). what are the odds of this company being around in 5-10 years? if the technology is actually viable what stops other more established players from just making cars that use it? serious questions that i dont know the answer to so foirgive my ignorance
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thathonkey posted:if the technology is actually viable what stops other more established players from just making cars that use it? serious questions that i dont know the answer to so foirgive my ignorance Tesla's business model is more aiming for high end performance and premium brand recognition similar to apple did with their Iphone. There are other companies out there making electric car but none of them have managed to make a high end product with nice margins. Also similar to the Iphone Tesla makes big bucks on upsells such as the battery pack, with the upgrades it's more around $110,000
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ah ok I get it now that makes sense. i guess all of my concerns about practicality are null and void in light of this. thanks for the info yall
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etalian posted:Tesla is a basically a car company with dot.com like stock behavior thathonkey posted:yeah that's my main concern. what are the odds of this company being around in 5-10 years? if the technology is actually viable what stops other more established players from just making cars that use it? serious questions that i dont know the answer to so foirgive my ignorance They were founded in 2003 so they have already been around for more than 10 years and they're going pretty strong. Other manufacturers are starting to test the waters, but there hasn't been much serious traction because they're way too deeply invested in gasoline-powered cars.
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thathonkey posted:the dealership probably has an ulterior motive but they're also probably right about that haha Yeah I'm sure they'd love to keep him on a regular upgrade schedule but it's pretty ballsy (or hilariously honest) turning down free money from a person looking to buy a status symbol and would have bought a new one after 3 years anyway. WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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thathonkey posted:ah ok I get it now that makes sense. i guess all of my concerns about practicality are null and void in light of this. thanks for the info yall The other engineering improvement is improving max range for the next models, such as going 200 miles max to 400 miles max. Just any technology will only get better with time. Also they randomly got really popular in Norway since the government provides huge tax breaks and also rebates for electric vehicles.
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why the gently caress would you want a car that doesnt rattle windows and set off car alarms when you stomp the pedal. get a mustang support the troops
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Pookum posted:why the gently caress would you want a car that doesnt rattle windows and set off car alarms when you stomp the pedal. get a mustang support the troops because it has a big ipad like screen, so you can watch porn while driving
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etalian posted:because it has a big ipad like screen, so you can watch porn while driving no need, if you own a tesla you'll probably have a hot chick giving you a blowjob while you drive
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enraged_camel posted:no need, if you own a tesla you'll probably have a hot chick giving you a blowjob while you drive that's one of the upsells etalian was referring to right?
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thathonkey posted:that's one of the upsells etalian was referring to right? yep, one of many
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and if you wreck while cumming from the aforementioned road head and your dick gets completely severed off in some fashion is the tesla valet service equipped to deal with that just as seamlessly as the battery dying? like do they have proper paramedic training is what im getting at
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Mar 3, 2015 02:13
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thathonkey posted:obviously i meant investment as in spending a lot of money on something that is meant to last you for a while not as in something that is going to make you money... sorry. If you live in an apartment complex, you probably can't afford a Tesla.
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enraged_camel posted:no need, if you own a tesla you'll probably have a hot chick giving you a blowjob while you drive not exactly true on the hot part since the tesla is most popular in the Bay Area.
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raditts posted:If you live in an apartment complex, you probably can't afford a Tesla. im inclined to agree but the person i was gathering info on behalf of actually does live in an apt complex  pretty hosed up but he seems to have money from an unknown source just blows it on toys instead of a nicer place to live. to each their own i guess.
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Bay Area is different since in most US cities something like a corvette or mustang is the small penis transport of choice.
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he just should just get the biggest dualie Ram truck and spew out hazardous gasses as the tesla drivers hold their noses. bonus points if it has a camouflage browning logo or a dale earnhardt sticker on back
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etalian posted:not exactly true on the hot part since the tesla is most popular in the Bay Area. This also applies to the apartment part, since everyone is living in 600 sq foot apartments they bought for $800,000 or pay $5000/month rent.
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