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DumbRodent
Jan 15, 2013

Heart Thumping Field Trip
BIG PANIC?
I vote that we are going to say something nonsensical, and then follow it up with the disproportionate application of violence to solve our problem.

Just a hunch.

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Hammurabi
Nov 4, 2009
Jesus, Jack Orlando really hates the homeless.

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.
Given the trend of puzzle solutions so far, I think I know what we need to do:

Spindle
Feb 12, 2008

Baby, we're rich
Put a coin in his hat, pretend this is street theater.

Hammurabi
Nov 4, 2009
Laugh at his silly mustache. The embarrassment should cause him to unintentionally confess his lies and run home crying tears of rage and humiliation.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Have to say, the tires blowing out on the early 2000s non-Pixar CGI car is a nice touch.

Azriel Odin
Jun 3, 2011

Somehow I knew this was gonna happen.
Oh no, an a gust of wind, my greatest weakness!

I'm sure there's a sound effect when playing, but without it he looks like he just fainted because the door opened.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012


:woop:

skoolmunkee
Jun 27, 2004

Tell your friends we're coming for them

Yeah I spent too long trying to figure out what was going on there. I was in bed reading on my iPad so I was sleepy. Did he slip? Was he surprised at something he saw? Did someone punch him??? oh no wait


I think what you need to do is throw glass shards in everyone's eyes and run away!

Either that or use the nail file you stole from your neighbor and shiv the witness.

Or give the cop the casino ticket from the catacombs and he'll go away.

skoolmunkee fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Mar 5, 2015

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

skoolmunkee posted:

Yeah I spent too long trying to figure out what was going on there. I was in bed reading on my iPad so I was sleepy. Did he slip? Was he surprised at something he saw? Did someone punch him??? oh no wait

While he was turned around someone tied a rope around his chest and yanked it from out the window as he opened the door.

Basically threw himself across the room.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Anyone not reading that text at the bottom as "Best Defective Ever" is wrong. :colbert:

skoolmunkee
Jun 27, 2004

Tell your friends we're coming for them

That is literally what the text at the bottom says! Look at the t's

DumbRodent
Jan 15, 2013

Heart Thumping Field Trip
BIG PANIC?


The game's unwinnable at this point, we missed this vital piece of the game's rich tapestry of puzzles.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
PART 7

Jack Orlando is suspected of murder. Again. We'll have to escape, but first there's a hell of a lot of talking. This whole update, in fact, will be mostly dialog.

Music for this update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTiWvLZhb9M



Don't believe him. I saw him firing, it was him!
Would you stop insistin' on this nonsense! I can't stand it when somebody talks a whole lotta crap.

For once, I'm with Jack -- this whole situation is ridiculous.

I think we'll be takin' a statement from this gentleman now. What do you think, Steven?

Moustache Cop takes the witness away.

Hey, maybe I've got somethin' to say about this too.
To be sure, Mister Orlando. Not only in this business but the one from this mornin' too. A lot of things are gonna have to be explained.
This guy won't be killin' anybody again. He was murdered by his boss, the guy who gave him his orders. He killed Reynolds last night. His name is August Bellinger.
Very clever. It's just too bad I can't ask him. At least not in this life.
Yeah, it is too bad. I had a lotta questions to ask him.
Not bad, Orlando, not bad at all. I wouldn't have thought you capable of it. Oh, I'm just thinkin' out loud. You'll surely be havin' a conversation with the inspector, in great detail.
Sure, I'd like to speak to Tom.
I can imagine. Wait here, he'll be here any minute.

Now, lots of you have suggested ways to solve this whole cop situation. Here's the real solution:



A flawless getaway. The next thing to do is visit Frank's Garage, because that's what the walkthrough says to do next.

Frank has a covered car sitting in his yard, and this is an adventure game.




Here is the interior of Frank's Garage. What item do we need?




Also, the car in the middle? That's Jack's car. It's here now.


Yeah. Too bad it's my car.
Hey, no problem. I'll fix that.
I'm already tremblin' about the size of the check.
Ahh, no problem. Everybody thinks too much about money.
When can I pick up the car?
It should be ready for tomorrow about noon.
I need it pretty badly.
Ok. I'll fix it in a coupla hours.

If you don't talk to Frank, and pick these exact dialog choices when you do, the car won't get fixed. And you will be unable to finish the game.

You may remember that the casino is in "the restaurant." That may sound vague and unhelpful, but fortunately there's only one place to eat in this town and it's literally called "Restaurant."



I hope they have FOOD in RESTAURANT!



They don't actually have food in the restaurant, it's just a bar. It's a restaurant-themed bar.

Jack has a casino chip and a casino ticket, so he's qualified to enter.



I'll do my best.

What?



Here's the casino, which is run by Don Scaletti. Jack is trying to track the mob boss down, to ask him about the murders. The normal way to accomplish this is just bother all the customers, asking them where Scaletti is, until the guards get mad enough to take you to him.



There's a faster way, though:



Pull a gun on someone, and you're immediately taken into custody. Which is exactly what we want!



Well, actually he just asked one guy and then waved his gun around at everyone like an rear end in a top hat, but I guess that's pretty much the same thing. If you didn't tie Smith up, at this point he runs in and kills you. It's bullshit.

I don't remember invitin' you to dinner. What kinda guy are you?
Private detective.

Jack Orlando, ace detective.

That's right. I got his ID and his gun. His name's Orlando.
That changes everything. Why're you here?
I'm doing an investigation. And I wanted to check out this casino. I found the ticket in a certain Mr. Bellinger's car.
That's nonsense. Bellinger has an appointment with me tomorrow morning.
He had an appointment you mean. Bellinger got shot today. With a few rounds from a machine gun. In front of the Cotton Club.



Women are so emotional.
So, my dear Scaletti, all roads lead to Rome.
Ahh, Rome... My city. The fountains... You're a clever guy, Orlando. Too bad you know too much. You understand?
Yeah, I've still a lot to learn about life.
You had your chance to learn.
Boss, you gotta be at the docks in a half hour. You know, the deal with Major...


Yeah, boss, I know I'm holding this guy at gunpoint and we're planning to kill him but I guess I just forgot about him :shrug:

What should I do with him?
I'll think about it, when we get back from the docks. Unless our pal here has anythin' interesting to tell us.
You know it all already.
Not yet. But we'll find out. Marco?
Yeah, boss?
Lock our friend up. But move it, we're late.

skoolmunkee
Jun 27, 2004

Tell your friends we're coming for them


What is that blackjack dealer doing?


Shove the ski under the door and trip him...?


Man I can't stop laughing at our detective's "I'm gonna shoot ya" pose. Every time. He's like a kid!

Also am I mistaken, or does the game's arrow cursor move around like a floppy dong?

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off


appreciation station

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

skoolmunkee posted:

Also am I mistaken, or does the game's arrow cursor move around like a floppy dong?



It absolutely does. :flaccid:

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

skoolmunkee posted:

What is that blackjack dealer doing?

When a customer demands poker, you give him poker. I guess.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Horseshoe




corn in the bible posted:

So, my dear Scaletti, all roads lead to Rome.
Ahh, Rome... My city. The fountains... You're a clever guy, Orlando. Too bad you know too much. You understand?

Best game, ever.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

corn in the bible posted:

Women are so emotional.
So, my dear Scaletti, all roads lead to Rome.
Ahh, Rome... My city. The fountains... You're a clever guy, Orlando. Too bad you know too much. You understand?
Yeah, I've still a lot to learn about life.
You had your chance to learn.

What? I mean, what? I reiterate: everyone in this game talks like they have brain damage. Every single one. Or like everyone is one of those ELIZA bots that react to a word in the last sentence it saw and prints out some random line associated with that word.

Also, "the door is too solid" is not a complaint I would've expected to see. I mean, it's true, it's just... yeah.

Kgummy
Aug 14, 2009
It means he can't kick it down, I guess. I mean, I've heard that phrase/similar used in fiction before. But only when the character(s) are trying to break it down and failing to do so.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Kgummy posted:

It means he can't kick it down, I guess. I mean, I've heard that phrase/similar used in fiction before. But only when the character(s) are trying to break it down and failing to do so.

I suppose so. But I can't help but think "solid" makes it sound like he was expecting to be able to phase through it, like it was some kind of vaporous door-cloud.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

When does Jack acquire the mist form?

Kgummy
Aug 14, 2009

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

I suppose so. But I can't help but think "solid" makes it sound like he was expecting to be able to phase through it, like it was some kind of vaporous door-cloud.
It's meant more "solid" as in "sturdy". That usage might come from woodworking, I think. Solid wood, referring to wood directly from trees, as opposed to stuff like plywood. Also to distinguish between solid and hollow objects. Such as solid doors, and hollow doors. Nowadays, interior doors tend to be hollow, since they're cheaper/lighter. Though you could break through them pretty easily because of it.

Not sure why Jack would think that a prison cell was a cheap door, though. Maybe he was just being hopeful?

Fleve
Nov 5, 2011

Perhaps they translated the game by giving Orlando's dialogue to one guy, all the other dialogue to another translator, and never showed either of them the context the dialogue was supposed to happen in. Both translators think they're crafting witty, top-notch dialogue, put them together and it's surrealism.

But that shot with the police ambling off is just too pelfect.

SirShakes
Jul 13, 2012

ISSAPEEPO
Boss, you gotta be at the docks in a half hour. You know, the deal with Major...



........................ I just can't believe that this is actual dialogue that exists in some form.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

SirShakes posted:

Boss, you gotta be at the docks in a half hour. You know, the deal with Major...



........................ I just can't believe that this is actual dialogue that exists in some form.

I have to assume the translators were only working with the script in text form. If you didn't know Orlando is literally being held at gunpoint by the speaker, it'd seem a little less ridiculous.

But yeah, when that happened I laughed. It's just so stupid!

No Gravitas
Jun 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

corn in the bible posted:

I have to assume the translators were only working with the script in text form. If you didn't know Orlando is literally being held at gunpoint by the speaker, it'd seem a little less ridiculous.

But yeah, when that happened I laughed. It's just so stupid!

Some please translate / post Polish for this?

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
do the pickable objects highlight when you move the pointer over them

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

PleasingFungus posted:



appreciation station



Christ alive, everyone in this game is dumb.

syzpid
Aug 9, 2014

Hogge Wild posted:

do the pickable objects highlight when you move the pointer over them

haha, I don't own the game, but no. It wouldn't be a proper adventure game if they did. Pixel hunting all the way!

Azriel Odin
Jun 3, 2011

Somehow I knew this was gonna happen.
Yeah man, what do you think this is, a casino?

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Hogge Wild posted:

do the pickable objects highlight when you move the pointer over them

Sort of, but they do it in an annoying way. The hand cursor plays a grabbing animation when over something you can pick up. But it's usually delayed, so if you see it happen then you may have to retrace the scene in order to figure out what it is you can grab. It's also easy to miss if you aren't paying attention.

I would have preferred a traditional cursor that lights up over hotspots or something like that, but it's better than, say, Law & Order where the mouse doesn't change at all.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
PART 8

Jack's been locked up by the mob. Escape is impossible; the only thing to do is wait.


What do you want from me? A game of chess?
Psst. It's me.
What do you want?
I want to help you.
Why, all of a sudden?
I have my reasons. Tell me everything about August!
I don't get it.
Tell me what happened.
I don't know how this concerns you.
August. I loved him... we wanted to get married.
Well, we were walkin' down the street to my car. A blue car suddenly comes out of nowhere... the window goes down and somebody empties a whole magazine at us. I pulled out my gun and fired. Bellinger went down. He must've had 5 bullets in him.
That was my uncle, he couldn't stand August... and he knew we wanted to get married.
Your uncle's a real nice guy. You gotta get away, 'cos when they find me gone, they're gonna suspect you real quick. Go to my apartment, you'll be safe there. Reginald Avenue 12. Stay there. What's your name, anyway?
Elizabeth.





Orlando is free from the jail cell, but he's still trapped in the Mafia base. Worst of all, his gun's been confiscated! Fortunately, it's sitting on a desk in the next scene.



We also need the papers sitting next to it. They represent vital evidence on Don Scaletti's operations, probably (of course there's no indication of what they are when you pick them up).



The game never tells you this, but they also took the bullets from his gun. Jack doesn't check, and the gun shows up in your action menu, but it's useless without bullets.

Well, more useless, anyway.

It's time to escape from the clutches of the mob. Jack heads out the back door, into another new area.




The guard will, naturally, kill Jack if he sees him. What's the solution?


Scaletti'll have to find a new clown now.

We need the bullets from his gun, too.



Why?




That's the first time Jack has actually used his gun when asked. More than halfway through the game. He didn't even shoot the guard!

Anyway, the next thing you need to do is visit the local whiskey distillery.







Jack Orlando's closest friend. It's not for him, though:


...on the rocks.
Can I get you a glass?
Sorry, I gotta pass. I got somethin' important to take care of.
Maybe some other time.
Where are the keys?
Sorry, I forgot. The keys 're in the glove compartment.
Good-bye.

You see, even though Jack's car was towed from the shooting site to the garage, and he never gave his keys to the mechanic, somehow he no longer has his car keys with him. So unless you give Frank some whiskey, you can't drive anywhere, and you can't head off to the next location. Also, taxis don't exist.




Remember, Don Scaletti's goon accidentally told Jack about the meeting at the harbor. This investigation is back on track! We'll get to see some new locations, and it'll be great. So stick around, or I trow sha'ks fin at you.

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
"Alright, these steam pipes look good, all that's left is to make sure the thugshock valve is in place."

"The what?"

"You know, the valve you turn to make a huge gout of steam pour out of the pipes one floor up"

"Oh, yeah."

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Because submachine gun bullets will totally fit into a revolver.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


I kinda want to see a Jack Orlando/Legie crossover.

cis_eraser_420
Mar 1, 2013

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Because submachine gun bullets will totally fit into a revolver.

Actually, yes

there's a lot of dumb poo poo in this game, but that's one thing they got right at least :v:

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

ultrafilter posted:

I kinda want to see a Jack Orlando/Legie crossover.

Now, come on, be fair -- Legie is a much better game than Jack Orlando. And Beer was a much better protagonist.

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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


I can see one scene very clearly:

quote:

JACK: I'm looking for a guy to punch!

PEASANT: Bah, what do I care if there is no beer.

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