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Pinterest Mom posted:i think carp is scum, i don't like her interactions with me earlier because they make no sense at all That is such a bad reason, 'I don't understand this interaction, therefore you must be scum'
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It wasn't even like a 'ooh, you posted something that would be weird for town to post' it was a case of us not understanding each other? how is that scummy?
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Mar 15, 2015 18:31
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Asiina it is an unusual game and there will be a lot of chatter but your fierceness about it is a little weird.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:31
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I'm looking at Asiina's post history and I see a good amount of game chat mixed in with some nongame chat and I think people harping on her specifically for "not participating" when there are both players that have only talked about non-game poo poo and players that haven't said anything whatsoever is a bit odd
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Mar 15, 2015 18:33
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Asiina posted:I had no reason to jump on the Lumpen bandwagon, but it was a bandwagon. So? Why would you bother getting on a bandwagon as town? Just for the fun of voting? I don't see it being a move you'd make as town, even in this crazy game. Guys, I think we should lynch yuming and Asii today. ##vote Asiina
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Mar 15, 2015 18:34
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Rarity posted:
Every. Single. Time.
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SCUM ALERT SCUM ALERT
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flatluigi posted:I'm looking at Asiina's post history and I see a good amount of game chat mixed in with some nongame chat and I think people harping on her specifically for "not participating" when there are both players that have only talked about non-game poo poo and players that haven't said anything whatsoever is a bit odd This is true, especially now. A bit earlier in the game her signal to noise ratio was pretty bad and she was actively discouraging discussion. It's gotten better though.
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Rarity posted:So? Why would you bother getting on a bandwagon as town? Just for the fun of voting? I don't see it being a move you'd make as town, even in this crazy game. Voting is fun!
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Mar 15, 2015 18:35
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Highwire posted:Every. Single. Time. your first major participation in the thread was a worddump on why it's smarter to kill a cop who claims a scum result over the result they got, dude, with the classic excuse of "it's to gain information"
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Mar 15, 2015 18:36
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Highwire's point about lid is pretty good I think
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:This is true, especially now. A bit earlier in the game her signal to noise ratio was pretty bad and she was actively discouraging discussion. It's gotten better though. You mean earlier in the game when everyone was just chatting except for like 5 people who are incapable of having any fun (See: KK)?
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Mar 15, 2015 18:36
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##vote krell
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Mar 15, 2015 18:37
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flatluigi posted:I'm looking at Asiina's post history and I see a good amount of game chat mixed in with some nongame chat and I think people harping on her specifically for "not participating" when there are both players that have only talked about non-game poo poo and players that haven't said anything whatsoever is a bit odd I'm not on her back because she hasn't talked game, I'm on her back cause when she does she doesn't seem connected to what's going on. Remember how I said Asii's my best friend, I've played tons of games with her, I've modded her when she's town, I've modded her when she's scum, I've caught her as scum when I'm town and I've fake cased her as scum when I'm scum. I know better than anyone in this thread how she plays and how to read her. Asiina is a good lynch today.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:38
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Asiina posted:You mean earlier in the game when everyone was just chatting except for like 5 people who are incapable of having any fun (See: KK)? Yes, but you seemed especially fierce on not letting go when the transition to actual gameplay was happening which is pretty fishy.
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Asiina posted:This is such a complete misrepresentation of my ~meta~ to the point that I think it's a fabricated case. It also doesn't even make sense in its own context. Someone who doesn't know what to say so they don't say anything at all is not going to be the person who has talked "so much". Someone who doesn't know what to say about a certain topic wouldn't talk about that topic, but could conceivably comfortably discuss other topics.
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flatluigi posted:your first major participation in the thread was a worddump on why it's smarter to kill a cop who claims a scum result over the result they got, dude, with the classic excuse of "it's to gain information" Don't forget actively encouraging a chain lynch as well!
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Mar 15, 2015 18:39
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Is rarity's case on Asiina stronger because they're known friends or weaker because they're known backstabbers?
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Mar 15, 2015 18:40
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I'm pretty sure lynching a claimed day 1 cop to get information about his scum result is worse than actually lynching the scum result. I have to look at my spreadsheets, but off the top of my head I'm confident in making this assessment
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Mar 15, 2015 18:40
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it would be hilarious though
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Mar 15, 2015 18:40
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That's a fair assessment but I don't think highwire is scummy for suggesting it.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:41
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I don't think he has any justification for complaining about being called on it, though
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Mar 15, 2015 18:42
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Rarity posted:I'm not on her back because she hasn't talked game, I'm on her back cause when she does she doesn't seem connected to what's going on. Remember how I said Asii's my best friend, I've played tons of games with her, I've modded her when she's town, I've modded her when she's scum, I've caught her as scum when I'm town and I've fake cased her as scum when I'm scum. I know better than anyone in this thread how she plays and how to read her. Asiina is a good lynch today. Rarity, oh bestest buddy, this is such a fabrication! You have been wrong far more than you have been right with my alignment. You always think I'm scum when I'm not! Remember CS:GO? Of course you do because you mentioned it earlier. You were sooooooo sure and so wrong!
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Mar 15, 2015 18:42
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Like I think his motivation (suspicion of lid) is genuine even if his suggestion doesn't work as well. I am biased because I don't want yuming to be executed.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:43
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Well I'm town so it's better not to kill me duh. Raritys assessment of my being self-serving is wrong. I've been contributing and have made a great case on Diqnol. I didn't read the rest of her post yet. 
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Mar 15, 2015 18:43
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Make a read on somebody other than Diqnol. Since we're talking about Asiina here, why bit give that nut a crack?
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Mar 15, 2015 18:44
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:That's a fair assessment but I don't think highwire is scummy for suggesting it. I think any "lets lynch for information" is one of the scummiest things you can do
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Mar 15, 2015 18:44
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Okay do this is normal for mills okay.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:45
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Sorry I've been not here, but I'm not reading 75 pages. Can I get a paragraph or two summation of anything that's actually important?
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Mar 15, 2015 18:46
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Make a read on somebody other than Diqnol.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Yes, but you seemed especially fierce on not letting go when the transition to actual gameplay was happening which is pretty fishy. Chatting is fun! The Carpet Shark posted:Someone who doesn't know what to say about a certain topic wouldn't talk about that topic, but could conceivably comfortably discuss other topics. Nah, I mean if you're going to use my own self-assessment against me then let me clarify it for you. When I'm scum I don't even make jokes because I get all nervous about how the jokes are perceived and oh god what if they say "that's a scummy joke!" etc etc. Any sort of freeness of talking means I don't feel that pressure. I mean feel free to not believe my self-meta argument, but don't try to use it against me if you're using it wrong.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:47
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Byers2142 posted:
Byers all ready made a reason why lynching for information is scummy as gently caress
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Rarity posted:Don't forget actively encouraging a chain lynch as well! There are 70+ people, you don't think there's going to be a bunch of obvious strings? People can only make associations with so many other people, and with 70 people I think it's likely that scum will actively stick together and try to hide in plain sight.
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I can see how applying that can be a scummy move but I think town players often have that logic. On some level, most of the dunks are for information. In a lot of games people don't expect to hit scum D1, but it's well known that no lynches should be avoided.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:48
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Asiina posted:Rarity, oh bestest buddy, this is such a fabrication! You have been wrong far more than you have been right with my alignment. You always think I'm scum when I'm not! Remember CS:GO? Of course you do because you mentioned it earlier. You were sooooooo sure and so wrong! I was a SK that game, I didn't actually care if you were scum or not. Especially when I voted for you at LYLO in the hopes the scum would jump on my vote! So far in this game your vote history is jumping on three bandwagons (Krell, Lumpen and winvirus) that were already in progress and then managing to combine a 'me too' with an OMGUS on Carpet Shark. yuming, if you want to convince me you're not just playing to survive then you should have a read of Asiina.
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Jamuraan posted:There are 70+ people, you don't think there's going to be a bunch of obvious strings? Chain lynches that are "if this person is scum, this other person is probably scum" are fine. Chain lynches that are "if this person is town, this other person is probably scum" are terrible and scummy. It's basically setting up "wrong = scum" in advance.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:49
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food for thought: are policy lynches critiqueable for bandwagoning
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Mar 15, 2015 18:49
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CCKeane posted:1400 new posts. I'm so mad you have a fan club.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:49
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flatluigi posted:food for thought: are policy lynches critiqueable for bandwagoning I think everything is critiqueable, everything is a reflection of your psychology as you attempt to play the game of mafia.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:50
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flatluigi posted:food for thought: are policy lynches critiqueable for bandwagoning Not in isolation but when combined with other evidence, yes
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just throwing this out here because I know everyone values my opinion, I'm 100% down with an Asiina lynch
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