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even Days was kind of pointless plotwise, since Xion's existence was tied to people remembering that she existed at all, so once she died everyone just forgot the whole thing
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imo if you have to make everyone forget a central character at the end of a prequel to maintain continuity, maybe you should take a step back and rethink your story
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Mar 20, 2015 23:19
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Excels posted:imo if you have to make everyone forget a central character at the end of a prequel to maintain continuity, maybe you should take a step back and rethink your story That would imply that thought was put into it in the first place.
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Mar 20, 2015 23:20
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Excels posted:you can make a drinking game out of the re:coded "movie", like every time you ask yourself "what the gently caress just happened" you take a shot. "the date escape"
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Mar 20, 2015 23:35
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Excels posted:you can make a drinking game out of the re:coded "movie", like every time you ask yourself "what the gently caress just happened" you take a shot.
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Mar 20, 2015 23:47
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Fojar38 posted:Do it at level one. After I 100% on critical I'll do a level 1 critical. I considered a level 1 100% but I don't hate myself enough to do that
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Mar 20, 2015 23:49
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the entire setup to re:coded is so loving absurd and not even a total suspension of disbelief helps. the story makes up a bunch of stupid poo poo on the spot and then makes up more stupid poo poo to justify the initial stupid poo poo. and literally the entire loving thing can be boiled down to "we need to save the original keyblade trio" being written in the stupid diary
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Mar 21, 2015 00:45
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Excels posted:even Days was kind of pointless plotwise, since Xion's existence was tied to people remembering that she existed at all, so once she died everyone just forgot the whole thing Days had a great plot because it was all about Xion and the only reason Xion exists is to explain why Roxas threw Riku one of his keyblades so that they could have a dramatic battle in the Final Mix secret ending. And that's pretty amazing. 
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Mar 21, 2015 00:54
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nobody ever explains what the gently caress "His eyes couldn't lie" means, they just keep repeating it like that makes it clearer
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Mar 21, 2015 00:55
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Excels posted:nobody ever explains what the gently caress "His eyes couldn't lie" means, they just keep repeating it like that makes it clearer He had those orange darkness eyes so everyone would know how much of a darkness junkie he was.
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Mar 21, 2015 01:15
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I'm a bit late, but what's up with people placing re:coded at the bottom of their KH tiers? I'm playing it right now and it's super fun. I'd say it's actually the best use of the command system out of the three (BBS, 3D and this) games that use it. It doesn't have the balance or design issues of BBS where the game sort of expects really weird things from you, like knowing exactly how to make once more/second chance. Or the badly designed boss fights, who never flinch and just launch insane attacks you and you dodge around the room for 30 seconds (this isn't all bosses but see: Zach, Vanitas, Braig). 3D meanwhile has the common enemies that are way too annoying to deal with, and the method of acquiring abilities is a horrible chore. Coded has none of these issues and, in fact, a cool new level up system that works great and is interesting to mess around with. Not to mention the improved command fusion where you can use the fused command without actually fusing it, and you don't have to worry about making important abilities for yourself with every fusion. The only real complaints I have about it are that 50% of the gameplay happens in nondescript and constantly reused red and blue cube rooms, ad that the story is somehow even more pointless than the rest of the franchise. Oh yeah, and how could I forget that coded even switches up the gameplay for some sidescrolling, turn-based, and shoot'em-up stages that are all pretty well done and give you a nice change of pace. It's a good game you guys, I swear!
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Thumbtacks posted:I considered a level 1 100% but I don't hate myself enough to do that I don't even think that's technically possible.
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Mar 21, 2015 01:22
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Excels posted:even Days was kind of pointless plotwise, since Xion's existence was tied to people remembering that she existed at all, so once she died everyone just forgot the whole thing
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Mar 21, 2015 01:25
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There is so much potential for the peanut gallery in Sora's head and then they don't use it.
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Mar 21, 2015 01:29
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Thumbtacks posted:After I 100% on critical I'll do a level 1 critical. I considered a level 1 100% but I don't hate myself enough to do that It's almost completely impossible. You don't have enough stats to beat some of the extra challenges, so your options are either to not be level one, OR you could craft a million stat boosters and still technically be level 1. I'm not sure what that would prove though.
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Mar 21, 2015 01:29
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Amppelix posted:It's almost completely impossible. You don't have enough stats to beat some of the extra challenges, so your options are either to not be level one, OR you could craft a million stat boosters and still technically be level 1. I'm not sure what that would prove though. Zero Exp gives you a damage boost proportional to the difference between your level and the enemy's level. It is absolutely possible.
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Mar 21, 2015 01:55
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some actually claim the game is easier with Exp Zero than a standard run because the game ensures you are always doing enough damage to get by
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Mar 21, 2015 01:57
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Amppelix posted:It's almost completely impossible. You don't have enough stats to beat some of the extra challenges, so your options are either to not be level one, OR you could craft a million stat boosters and still technically be level 1. I'm not sure what that would prove though. This isn't true at all for KH2. The thing with KH2FM is that the way the game's damage formula is set up you don't need a ton of high stats to fight.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Zero Exp gives you a damage boost proportional to the difference between your level and the enemy's level. It is absolutely possible. Has someone actually done it? Because (and this is really sad I know but bear with me) I was chatting with a friend who is a KH speedrunner a while ago and he told me that Level 1 100% is impossible because something to do with the Mushrooms? Like, I think Mushroom 5 is impossible at Level 1, or something. I think that's what he told me. i'm going off really badly remembered fragments of a conversation about content I never experienced so take my posts with mountainous piles of salt but I do trust the guy to be correct about Kingdom Hearts.
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Mar 21, 2015 02:05
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Zero Exp gives you a damage boost proportional to the difference between your level and the enemy's level. It is absolutely possible. 100% involves mushrooms, and you can't do (some of) them without really high stats. For example, the one in Agrabah which you kill really fast
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Mar 21, 2015 02:48
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:Has someone actually done it? Because (and this is really sad I know but bear with me) I was chatting with a friend who is a KH speedrunner a while ago and he told me that Level 1 100% is impossible because something to do with the Mushrooms? Like, I think Mushroom 5 is impossible at Level 1, or something. I think that's what he told me. For the AGDQ 2015 Level 1 Critical Data Org run, they had the gold crown. That's with no stat boosts too.
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Mar 21, 2015 02:49
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Level 1 cannot get the gold crown without stat boosts. You can stat boost other characters, however, to keep Sora "pure". Certain mushrooms cannot be beaten without your stats being high, even with the damage formula from final mix. So people usually boost the guest party members and Donald to circumvent this.
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Mar 21, 2015 03:00
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PatTwo posted:Level 1 cannot get the gold crown without stat boosts. You can stat boost other characters, however, to keep Sora "pure". Can your party members even kill the mushrooms? I haven't done this in a little bit but I seem to remember them basically doing nothing with them. Here's the link to the AGDQ thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz-sGYBYXv4 Save files and stuff for level 1 data org is at 3:58 or so. Supposedly there are no stat boosts allowed in this category.
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That's the silver crown. This is well documented; there is no currently known way to do mushrooms without some boosters used on someone. (Party members can do real damage with limits)
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Mar 21, 2015 03:21
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It's disappointing that there's not even a theoretical TAS-quality way to defeat those mushrooms without stat boosters.
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Mar 21, 2015 03:27
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effervescible posted:I kind of liked that it was pointless. Days and Birth by Sleep had such heavy drama and sad endings, it was nice to have some primarily frivolous, lighthearted Kingdom Hearts. Sort of a palate cleanser. Not only is it pointless though, the setup is completely stupid and nothing of interest actually happens besides recycling KH1 plot lines
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Yeah, but it was silly fun. I get why some people wouldn't like it, I'm just saying that a few things people complain about can also be seen as a feature, not a bug.
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Augus posted:Not only is it pointless though, the setup is completely stupid and nothing of interest actually happens besides recycling KH1 plot lines I thought the abridged version of Chain of Memories in reCoded was neat, especially considering that CoM was already technically recycling KH1. Though to be fair, you can have Data Sora screw things up and get alternate endings in that segment and it obviously fucks with his head, which was an interesting way of retelling Sora's head getting screwed with.
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oh my loving god data final xemnas is a dick i'm at 12/13 and i really am not a fan of him edit: oh hey i killed him. apparently complaining makes me somehow better. SuccinctAndPunchy posted:I don't even think that's technically possible. The only thing you'd need higher stats for is mushrooms so you'd have to synth a ton of stat ups which would probably defeat the purpose Thumbtacks fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Mar 21, 2015 |
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For BBS Critical, does it not do the thing that 2FM Critical does where you actually do more damage than other difficulties? I started out with Ventus and have gotten to Radiant Garden so far and it all just seems like a slog even killing regular enemies. I am using the command deck btw, and the shotlock when I'm not getting pounded in my face. I'm also pretty heavily relying on D-Links.
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Jibo posted:For BBS Critical, does it not do the thing that 2FM Critical does where you actually do more damage than other difficulties? I started out with Ventus and have gotten to Radiant Garden so far and it all just seems like a slog even killing regular enemies. I am using the command deck btw, and the shotlock when I'm not getting pounded in my face. I'm also pretty heavily relying on D-Links. Nope. You actually do half as much damage in BBS Critical. If you don't do any Mirage Arena missions you'll hit several walls in the game where enemies will take nothing but chip damage
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Critical Mode is butts in games that aren't 2FM basically
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Well piss. Maybe I'll restart then. I like the fact that I get killed in one or two hits but everything else just feels so tedious.
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In BBS, is there any point to playing the Command Board outside of the Mirage Arena? Playing it outside of the arena gives no medals or arena levels, while CB in the arena still gives command points. Overall I'm loving the command mechanic and the music already. I'm finding myself overlevelled from the simple pleasure of playing around with commands and melding better ones. Terra's fight with the Magic Mirror wound up being trivial even on Critical. 
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Mar 21, 2015 19:48
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There are Bonus Commands on the boards that you can only get outside the arena
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1 Critical wasn't hard it was just obnoxious because of the seemingly random "enemies are suddenly damage sponge" spikes. I actually think that in terms of difficulty the period between Sora losing the Keyblade and Getting to EOTW are the hardest parts of the game, and even those are just a matter of playing patiently until you gain enough levels to do real damage to enemies again. I mean the game essentially boils down to "Get Leaf Bracer and press X a lot", even moreso after Goofy and Donald are properly leveled and have like MP gift and second chance. I think Counterattack is also pretty important because it makes combat so mindless that you can just mash X and literally NEVER get hit and nothing will be able to get through your barrage. I think I only ever died in the Clayton fight? I was winging it most of the time and still beat the game in a relatively quick fashion without Ultima weapon.
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A level 1 run in KH1 is actually sort of fun because instead of mashing x, you're more or less forced to learn how I-frames work, learn how to exploit summons, and for the love of god make sure you get aeroga. The game's not meant to be played like this as all, and it can be super-frustrating, but it's an interesting change of pace.
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maou shoujo posted:In BBS, is there any point to playing the Command Board outside of the Mirage Arena? Playing it outside of the arena gives no medals or arena levels, while CB in the arena still gives command points. Keyblade Board: Ragnarok Castle of Dreams Board: Meteor Shower, Focus Block/Barrier Toon Board: Deep Freeze Spaceship Board: Lightning Ray, Limit Storm (Terra) Skull Board: Photon Charge Hunny Pot Board: Sacrifice (Terra), Thunder Roll (Ven) Secret Board: Lightning Ray, Ragnarok, Fission Firaga Plus you can only unlock the Secret board by playing each other board outside the arena afaik
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Keyblade Board: Ragnarok Keyblade board also has Cure, which made my Ventus/Aqua runs so much easier. Didn't know about that until after I'd already finished my Terra run.
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Is there a suggested order for the worlds in Re:CoM? I went to Wonderland first and it's totally kicking my rear end. All of the enemies cards are like 5 minimum so half my poo poo just bounces immediately.
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