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I'm not that big into magical girl poo poo but I enjoyed Madoka because it's only veiled in a magical girl anime. That said, gently caress whoever drew this.
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Gammatron 64 posted:ok that was pretty funny I gotta admit. You are a weird contrarian. People aren't saying these things are good for nothing, but I guess you could just spend your entire life just watching DBZ, Bleach and Naruto over and over.
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Madoka is a very strange kind of optimism. The show ends on a ultimately positive note for the world, the movie(?) further so yet our actual characters suffer for both. Its not an attempt to destroy something people enjoy, its a darker take on a usually very optimistic genre. Never grimdark because its hopeful in places, even if that hope ends up coming out the other end sore and hurting, but victorious in the end. And while im typing about this, I present to you, a marvellous crossover found by my friend Robzilla, a match made in the cosmic hells that only elder beings dream of. E: Make it stop.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:23
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Mordaedil posted:You are a weird contrarian. People aren't saying these things are good for nothing, but I guess you could just spend your entire life just watching DBZ, Bleach and Naruto over and over. Indeed. If you're not willing to take suggestions to step out of your box to try things people have discovered are good, then you really have little right to complain that the box you've confined yourself in sucks.
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i like cartoons that i saw as a kid, and only the ones from them, but if im being honest its really hard to get into ones after that. for example, i like dbz a lot as you know. furthermore, i finished naruto and still read bleach, but i saw them both when i was like, 10 or maybe a lil younger? at the time. so its like investment. finally, there were a few that started when i was still young and i felt okay investing in them: example, death note, but i find it difficult to pick up new stuff now.
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Thyrork posted:Madoka is a very strange kind of optimism. The show ends on a ultimately positive note for the world, the movie(?) further so yet our actual characters suffer for both. But I already admitted this is informed by my perceptions rather than real grounding in the genre so feel free to take all my posts on the subject with the world's largest grain of salt.
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e X posted:Eh, it's great that you are so enthusiastic about it, but honestly, I think most of the series you mentioned are pretty mediocre at best. It doesn't help that I find a lot of the usual shonen tropes to be very tiresome and repetitive. For a lot of stories, it becomes very easy to predict the plot at every turn, to the point were you are just bored with the entire concept. Yu Yu Hakusho was great because the localization team took liberties with the script and the voice actors were absolutely fantastic. It's the best localization outside of Cowboy Bebop and is miles above the source material. Most protagonists make me want to punch them in their face due to their obliviousness, cockiness, naivete, etc, but Yusuke seemed genuine to me, even if he did fall into a bunch of tropes. It's a testament to why you shouldn't transcribe Japanese dialogue literally, because aside from cultural quirks, it's actually completely terrible much of the time.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:59
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ChronoReverse posted:Indeed. If you're not willing to take suggestions to step out of your box to try things people have discovered are good, then you really have little right to complain that the box you've confined yourself in sucks. Or maybe I don't really care to see Madoka or Attack on Titan all that much and they're not for me and don't interest me, maybe it's just that, I dunno. I take suggestions and go outside my comfort zone a lot, I iust don't have the time to watch literally everything there is or any desire to. Also I watch other things than anime. But if you think I'm a weird contrarian for not being interested in Madoka Magica or Attack on Titan, then okay, you are entitled to your wrong opinion
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So I've been rewatching Dragonball because I swear work I'll get to you later, and I just got to the part where Chichi and Goku finalize getting married. Man, I miss badass fighter Chichi. Also everything she says is hilarious in hindsight (I have no clue how much the dub added in). "I love you so much Goku I'm gonna be the best wife ever and we're gonna have some kids, not too many, just 8 or 9..."
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dipwood posted:It's a testament to why you shouldn't transcribe Japanese dialogue literally, because aside from cultural quirks, it's actually completely terrible much of the time.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Or maybe I don't really care to see Madoka or Attack on Titan all that much and they're not for me and don't interest me, maybe it's just that, I dunno. I take suggestions and go outside my comfort zone a lot, I iust don't have the time to watch literally everything there is or any desire to. Also I watch other things than anime. It's not like I've even watched Attack On Titan myself here (although I may in the future). I'm pointing out that if you're saying things like "I won't watch My Little Pony out of principle" (and I haven't watched this either) then you don't really have the right to say things like: quote:Also I think Dragon Ball, One Piece, Jojo's and Fist of the North Star are like the only good Shonen series You've basically made a claim that shows with "little high school girls" sucks without actually having watched any of the ones considered good! This is the definition of "wrong"
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Bad Seafood posted:There was an article by Jason Thompson (one of VIZ's editors) pretty much to this effect. It seems the vast, vast majority of shounen dialogue operates on a purely functional level, "How dare you do that to my friends," "Fool, this isn't even HALF of my power," etc. I thought that was a general Japanese language thing. It's a language where a lot of meaning is only through context.
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ChronoReverse posted:You've basically made a claim that shows with "little high school girls" sucks without actually having watched any of the ones considered good! This is the definition of "wrong" Okay. Sorry I offended you by making fun of little underage schoolgirl anime on an internet comedy forum. I'll make sure never to do that again. Anyways, swole guys yelling really loud and shooting kung fu fireballs is pretty cool in my book
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Check out this loser arguing with someone over anime on an internet comedy forum.Twiddy posted:So I've been rewatching Dragonball because I swear work I'll get to you later, and I just got to the part where Chichi and Goku finalize getting married. Man, I miss badass fighter Chichi. Also everything she says is hilarious in hindsight (I have no clue how much the dub added in). "I love you so much Goku I'm gonna be the best wife ever and we're gonna have some kids, not too many, just 8 or 9..." Could have happened if Goku didn't keep dying all the time.
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mycot posted:I thought that was a general Japanese language thing. It's a language where a lot of meaning is only through context.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Okay. Sorry I offended you by making fun of little underage schoolgirl anime on an internet comedy forum. I'll make sure never to do that again. 'My little underaged schoolboy anime is better than your little underaged schoolgirl anime.'
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Gammatron 64 posted:Sorry I offended you by making fun of little underage schoolgirl anime on an internet comedy forum. How do you feel about the parts in Dragonball (a "good show" in your opinion) where an old man pervs all over a 15-whatever year old Bulma? Or that part where she flashes her lady business at him? Or the old man getting the crazy lady to prance around in underwear? Im sure theres more, its been a while since Ive read Dragonball. I dont really care about "little underage schoolgirl anime" but youre clearly holding the series you enjoy up on a pedestal.
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I don't think anyone denies that Dragonball does have dumb creepy poo poo in it. At least it eventually subsides and isn't the point. Though the new movies are bringing it back which sucks. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Darth Walrus posted:'My little underaged schoolboy anime is better than your little underaged schoolgirl anime.' Heartcatch Precure is a better show than both YYH and Madoka. Back to layout chat, is it just me or did One Piece drop off in terms of action readability from panel to panel? I remember early on it was more comparable to the clear flow of Dragonball, but these days I have trouble following whats going on without flipping back and forth and rereading pages.
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Darko posted:Kuwabara still had to do support with the soul sword thing that become the most powerful singular thing in the series (it was cutting through dimensions or something). It was after that when he became completely useless. They hyped that dimension cutting thing up and then had it be completely pointless. He did that to chase after Sensui, but there was no real repercussion from it. They did have more Jojoish fights in that arc though, but the side characters didn't end up mattering a whole lot (Wouldn't count Kurama or Hiei as side characters). All that matters is that Kurama literally killed a kid and then sentenced a guy to eternal suffering. Kurama is stone cold.
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KoB posted:How do you feel about the parts in Dragonball (a "good show" in your opinion) where an old man pervs all over a 15-whatever year old Bulma? Or that part where she flashes her lady business at him? none of this poo poo is bad
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Can we go back to power level chat?
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CharlestheHammer posted:I don't think anyone denies that Dragonball does have dumb creepy poo poo in it. Uh yeah, speaking, hi, cough cough
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Bad Seafood posted:You're not wrong, though it's also far from a distinctly Japanese phenomenon. Plenty of American comics boast dialogue on a similar level. With regards to the article, I figured his point was a response to Internet nerds going on about the purity of direct, literal translation. I often wonder if the dialogue in superhero comics sounds as goofy to native speakers as it sounds when I translate them mentally in German. he same with Japanese. For the longest time I though that it was an incredible stilted language, until I relaxed that it was simply the result of bad fan translation. I mean, I don't speak Japanese, so i can only guess, but I think it is a fair assumption that a lot of the typical shonen expressions are the result of bad or overly literal translation.
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Apr 22, 2015 00:14
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Master roshi inspires me on a daily basis
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BlitzBlast posted:Can we go back to power level chat? vegito is stronger than beerus
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KoB posted:Or the old man getting the crazy lady to prance around in underwear?  BlitzBlast posted:Can we go back to power level chat? I read that in Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha, Cell's power level was 1,079,956,055, Majin Buu's was 1,199,951,172, and Kid Buu's is 1,379,943,848. Apparently the power jump between sagas wasn't as big as I thought it was.
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Robzilla posted:I'm not that big into magical girl poo poo but I enjoyed Madoka because it's only veiled in a magical girl anime. That said, gently caress whoever drew this. I don't get it and I don't care.
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Cell would use the Kaio-Ken and body Kid Buu confirmed.
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Namtab posted:Master roshi inspires me on a daily basis
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Blaze Dragon posted:Rurouni Kenshin, Hunter x Hunter, My Hero Academia, Busou Renkin, Death Note, Dr. Slump (from Toriyama himself!), Kinnikuman, Saint Seiya, Shaman King, Yu-Gi-Oh!, YuYu Hakusho, Saiki Kusao no Psi Nan, Kuroko no Basket...and that's only counting the Shonen Jump ones I can see from quickly reading the Jump Ultimate Stars and J-Stars lists. There's far, far more. For instance, outside of that you have FullMetal Alchemist, an all-time favourite of mine, or the currently running Seven Deadly Sins (whose quality is somewhat shaky but it's enjoyable). There's also OPM which is amazing, but I'm not sure where to put it considering it started as a webcomic. You think Shaman King is good? Maybe the beginning but after they early battles it just 0-100s to stupidity. Especially the ending that makes Naruto's almost look good.
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Kild posted:You think Shaman King is good? Maybe the beginning but after they early battles it just 0-100s to stupidity. Especially the ending that makes Naruto's almost look good. Ok, in spoiler tags, how does it end? To make Naruto's ending look good, it must have sucked hard enough to pull a bowling ball through a garden hose.
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Hao wins, becomes god, and kills everyone, but then his mom come backs and tells him to stop being such a jerk. He does so.
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BlitzBlast posted:Hao wins, becomes god, and kills everyone, but then his mom come backs and tells him to stop being such a jerk. He does so. Is Hao a villain?
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Covok posted:Is Hao a villain? The main villain, yes.
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Also in the sequel, Yoh becomes the worst shonen dad.
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Covok posted:Is Hao a villain? Yes. He's related to the MC by reincarnation or something, and has been trying to be God for centuries. Also, the entire cast of the series pops by to annoy the gently caress out of Hao.
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