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Matthew Beet posted:"Again I don't explain anything I ever do in Mafia because I'm a GENIUS and anyone who comes after me must be scum. ##vote Asphyxious
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May 19, 2015 00:04
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May 19, 2015 00:12
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Got caught up making/eating dinner last night so I missed the lynch, but it looks like everyone managed to get town killed anyway so...
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May 19, 2015 00:19
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Perhaps I'm missing something here but Aspy did something fairly normal (shaving a few hours off a deadline is common when trying to avoid a nolynch) - explained why he wanted to do it - Matt Fat Beats came in and made a joke about it (I will not comment on the malicious level of the joke) and this caused Tirade to vote for Aspy?! Am I the only one who sees Tirade's vote as a scumvote? Like if we lynched Aspy and if he came out town this is the kinda "well I didn't see anyone better and Matty said we should vote Aspy" kinda bullshit? Seems bad to me buddy; ##vote Tirade
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May 19, 2015 00:21
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Asphyxious posted:Two reasons: Nah guys, I just make plays that "look" scummy, but it's all part of an elaborate ruse to flush out the real scum.
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May 19, 2015 00:23
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i'm really not feeling the push on gaspy tbh
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May 19, 2015 00:26
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Kleedrac posted:Perhaps I'm missing something here but Aspy did something fairly normal (shaving a few hours off a deadline is common when trying to avoid a nolynch) - explained why he wanted to do it - Matt Fat Beats came in and made a joke about it (I will not comment on the malicious level of the joke) and this caused Tirade to vote for Aspy?! Am I the only one who sees Tirade's vote as a scumvote? Like if we lynched Aspy and if he came out town this is the kinda "well I didn't see anyone better and Matty said we should vote Aspy" kinda bullshit? Seems bad to me buddy; Nah I pinged it too, especially after Tirade prompted the question of what I was doing, then ignored my response to post instead something else damning me. Very obviously running to an agenda, but I was hoping to see who else followed him. But eh. Found the first person I'm confident is scum so I'll get more later. ##vote tirade
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May 19, 2015 00:28
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eh, im not feeling it. this is auspol mafia, and we are all bad players.
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May 19, 2015 00:33
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Man you people who actually go out and stuff are weird, I was still sitting around at home for Important Mafia Business even though last night was my birthday! (but it was a very nice birthday, I ate a whole bunch of black forest cake and got a nice present  )Kleedrac posted:Perhaps I'm missing something here but Aspy did something fairly normal (shaving a few hours off a deadline is common when trying to avoid a nolynch) - explained why he wanted to do it - Matt Fat Beats came in and made a joke about it (I will not comment on the malicious level of the joke) and this caused Tirade to vote for Aspy?! Am I the only one who sees Tirade's vote as a scumvote? Like if we lynched Aspy and if he came out town this is the kinda "well I didn't see anyone better and Matty said we should vote Aspy" kinda bullshit? Seems bad to me buddy; Well, it's tricky. This has kind of has been normal behavior for Gaspy before, trying to look a little scummy so the scum think it's handy to keep him around instead of killing him off on night 1. He's been nightkilled very quickly in many games after latching on dangerously quick to an important scum. But I thought he was trying to branch out and change up his game a bit more recently? Incidentally, Gaspy this is exactly why even as town I have to worry about what you're up to.  Not sure yet if I can get behind your quick push on Tirade though, it reminds me too much of my own classic "bait and look for scum framing me up" strategy that actually kind of sucked most of the time.
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May 19, 2015 00:36
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digging into the SMAC lore quote:As the writhing, teeming mass of mindworms swarmed over the outer perimeter, we saw the defenders recoil in horror. "Stay calm! Use your flame guns!" shouted the commander, but to no avail.
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May 19, 2015 00:44
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Kommando posted:digging into the SMAC lore It's the SMAC equivalent of the Great Wall, gives you a free perimeter defence in every city
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May 19, 2015 00:47
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What does that mean in auspol mafia?
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May 19, 2015 00:48
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Kommando posted:digging into the SMAC lore Help me out here. Is this to do with your quest? I know nothing of SMAC and it's tempting to write off all character posting and lore posting as white noise bullshit.
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May 19, 2015 00:48
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Asphyxious posted:Help me out here. Is this to do with your quest? Citizens defence force got activated overnight, check the start of day 2 post
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May 19, 2015 00:50
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Gough Suppressant posted:Citizens defence force got activated overnight, check the start of day 2 post Right so what's the worm thing then?
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May 19, 2015 00:54
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and some SMAC news, Civ:Beyond Earth gets an expansion pack; Rising Tide. http://www.civilization.com/en/news/2015-05-civilization-beyond-earth-rising-tide-fall-2015/
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May 19, 2015 00:55
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Kleedrac posted:Perhaps I'm missing something here but Aspy did something fairly normal (shaving a few hours off a deadline is common when trying to avoid a nolynch) - explained why he wanted to do it - Matt Fat Beats came in and made a joke about it (I will not comment on the malicious level of the joke) and this caused Tirade to vote for Aspy?! Am I the only one who sees Tirade's vote as a scumvote? Like if we lynched Aspy and if he came out town this is the kinda "well I didn't see anyone better and Matty said we should vote Aspy" kinda bullshit? Seems bad to me buddy; It wasn't Beet's post that made me vote for gaspy, it was gaspy's poo poo answer to my question. He ignored the fact that he potentially stuffed up Kommando's project, and hand waved the dodginess away by doing his usual supergenius routine. I'm not gonna claim that I'm certain gaspy is scum, but in the last game I played (gaspy's transformers one!) town won by doggedly chasing some scummy d1 plays. I figure it's worth checking out further, and voting for me for doing so seems odd.
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May 19, 2015 01:00
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Asphyxious posted:Right so what's the worm thing then? mind worms are the barbarians of SMAC. it's just fluff. mechanically it might mean the possessor is protected in some way? either from the citizens (lynchings) or worms/enemies (night kills)
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May 19, 2015 01:08
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Good morning centurions.
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May 19, 2015 01:11
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Mithranderp posted:Good morning centurions. Spartans?
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May 19, 2015 01:13
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Oh! Centarians
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May 19, 2015 01:13
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Tirade posted:It wasn't Beet's post that made me vote for gaspy, it was gaspy's poo poo answer to my question. He ignored the fact that he potentially stuffed up Kommando's project, and hand waved the dodginess away by doing his usual supergenius routine. I thought my answer was pretty straightforward. I mean for me, anyway.
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May 19, 2015 01:15
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Centauri
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May 19, 2015 01:16
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Kleedrac posted:Perhaps I'm missing something here but Aspy did something fairly normal (shaving a few hours off a deadline is common when trying to avoid a nolynch) - explained why he wanted to do it - Matt Fat Beats came in and made a joke about it (I will not comment on the malicious level of the joke) and this caused Tirade to vote for Aspy?! Am I the only one who sees Tirade's vote as a scumvote? Like if we lynched Aspy and if he came out town this is the kinda "well I didn't see anyone better and Matty said we should vote Aspy" kinda bullshit? Seems bad to me buddy; I antagonise gaspy every game I play, just as he does to me , but beyond that gaspy does this 'i'm the smartest person in the room' routine every game, even stating he know's who is scum but wont go into detail about who or why and then he invariably ends up dead and we never find out wtf he was on about. Hence my smarmy post. I thought TOML would call him on it again, as he has in the past but this time he's not interested. I don't have a really strong feeling about gaspy atm because he's defaulting to type, that said I'm not super convinced about tirade either, this feels sorta forced and gaspy's behaviour is more suspicious than tirade calling him on it.
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May 19, 2015 01:16
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Asphyxious posted:Help me out here. Is this to do with your quest? yeah i'm usually against this stuff and the mind worms is def fluff, but each secret project had a definitive purpose in game and it's easy to draw some conclusion as to what. do we make judgements on that alone? hell no. never. ignore if need be, smac nerds are gonna nerd.
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May 19, 2015 01:21
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Bifauxnen posted:Man you people who actually go out and stuff are weird, I was still sitting around at home for Important Mafia Business even though last night was my birthday! Happy Birthday Bif  I don't see hammering 2 hours before deadline to be scummy - not sure how that would save someone from a scum-team kill. But the Tirade post really feels scummy - if you have an issue with Aspy's play and quote that it'd be one thing - but Tirade quoted someone else's joking interpretation of Aspy's post seems suspicious to me and is something I've seen scum do in previous games. Tirade posted:It wasn't Beet's post that made me vote for gaspy, it was gaspy's poo poo answer to my question. He ignored the fact that he potentially stuffed up Kommando's project, and hand waved the dodginess away by doing his usual supergenius routine. Then why quote Beet's post with your vote? This post is far and away a better reason for a vote than quoting Beet. In fact I'd love to see Aspy respond to this post. Matthew Beet posted:I antagonise gaspy every game I play, just as he does to me , but beyond that gaspy does this 'i'm the smartest person in the room' routine every game, even stating he know's who is scum but wont go into detail about who or why and then he invariably ends up dead and we never find out wtf he was on about. Hence my smarmy post. I thought TOML would call him on it again, as he has in the past but this time he's not interested. Fair enough I mentioned several times that it seemed like a joke that may-or-may-not have had malicious intent - it was funny for what it's worth.-------------- I'm feeling better about Tirade after his last post but I'm looking forward to Tirade & Aspy having some discussion. ##Unvote
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May 19, 2015 01:22
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Lock them in the cyberbroom closet until they kiss/kill each other imo
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May 19, 2015 01:24
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Kleedrac posted:
He has. Asphyxious posted:I thought my answer was pretty straightforward.
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May 19, 2015 01:29
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Where is MaliciousOnion? I know it's his first mafia game (or second if you count one night werewolf) but being this quiet isn't very helpful for town. Don't be afraid, we won't bite...well, maybe beet will, but he won't bite much
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May 19, 2015 01:38
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Matthew Beet posted:He has. Quoted the wrong thing there.
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May 19, 2015 01:40
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I'll be at work today till about 5-6ish, so I won't be able to follow along. -- I really liked being able to tame packs of roving barbarians in Civ and train them up into killing machines so I'm glad they kept that feature for Alpha Centauri.
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May 19, 2015 01:41
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For what it's worth I'm still putting good odds on tirade being scum. The straight off the bat shade throw and YEAH LETS GET HIM follow up is just such a well worn scum approach at this point.
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May 19, 2015 01:42
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Zetsubou-san posted:I'll be at work today till about 5-6ish, so I won't be able to follow along. "Tame" "Packs of barbarians" Check this imperialist dog
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May 19, 2015 01:42
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Kleedrac posted:Then why quote Beet's post with your vote? This post is far and away a better reason for a vote than quoting Beet. In fact I'd love to see Aspy respond to this post. It was supposed to be me agreeing with Beet's assessment of gaspy's response, i.e. that it was pretty worthless. I'll try to be clearer in the future. Part of it is just that auspol has a lot of history of playing games together, and so there's assumed knowledge about how various people play. Gaspy has cultivated this mad genius persona where he plays his own game through linguistic forensics and data collection, which is interesting to watch but also gets a bit old particularly when he uses it as cover for doing suspicious things.
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May 19, 2015 01:45
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Asphyxious posted:Quoted the wrong thing there. yeah oops. I'm sure us dunces can figure it out with the crumbs dropped from your table.
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May 19, 2015 01:46
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Tirade posted:It was supposed to be me agreeing with Beet's assessment of gaspy's response, i.e. that it was pretty worthless. I'll try to be clearer in the future. I dropped the forensics stuff games ago, but I'm always interested in trying new approaches. The reoccurring key is to keep looking juuuuust scummy enough, and the best thing is that saying "I'm trying to look scummy" looks scummy so I can be truthful to town AND still lull scum into a false sense of security. Matthew Beet posted:yeah oops. I'm sure us dunces can figure it out with the crumbs dropped from your table. Just trying to be helpful. Clarity is key, except when I'm doing it and then it's a cunning ruse.
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May 19, 2015 01:50
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I'm off to uni, but I'll be back at around 3 and then I'll see if I can put together a decent analysis effortpost
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May 19, 2015 01:52
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Kleedrac posted:Happy Birthday Bif aspy
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May 19, 2015 01:54
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Controversial opinion: deliberately looking scummy is not a pro-town play.
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May 19, 2015 01:56
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Asphyxious posted:I dropped the forensics stuff games ago, but I'm always interested in trying new approaches. The reoccurring key is to keep looking juuuuust scummy enough, and the best thing is that saying "I'm trying to look scummy" looks scummy so I can be truthful to town AND still lull scum into a false sense of security. Yeah, but it throws the town off and irritates people.
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