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Mithranderp posted:I am not scum, in fact I am a town bus driver If what you say is true : On one hand I want to congratulate you for getting Bif, on the other hand I am suspicious of you coming out and claiming today when you've arguably been somewhat effective (bif) and could have served town better remaining hidden.
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Forgot to ##vote Asphyxious for pretty much the same reasons Kommando listed. I'm not so sure about Kleedrac, although the time difference does make things difficult. I'm also now suspicious of Tirade, who, despite having a bit of an argument with Gaspy early yesterday, has otherwise been following a similar pattern. And the argument could have been done for the sake of image.
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May 20, 2015 01:27
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Kommando posted:Mithranderp, Thatbastardken and Asphyxious I level the accusation against you that you are scum. Yeah I dunno what to tell you, I'm not scum. I'm a town gunsmith who's been blocked BOTH nights. First night Beet, got back unsuccessful, second night WMB, unsuccessful. But yeah honestly I've been fingered by a cop so it'd be more weird not to lynch me.
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May 20, 2015 01:31
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I will offer that if I was scum I'd have worked out Gough was a cop instead of just being an rear end in a top hat and what I certainly wouldn't have done is spend most of last night saying how I thought the scum godfather was being scummy. Like I'm not a team player but I wouldn't deliberately gently caress over my scum team on the way out.
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May 20, 2015 01:36
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Matthew Beet posted:If what you say is true : If it was a different game I wouldn't have role claimed, but for this game, tbh I'm not too worried.
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May 20, 2015 01:37
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Asphyxious posted:Yeah I dunno what to tell you, I'm not scum. I'm a town gunsmith who's been blocked BOTH nights. First night Beet, got back unsuccessful, second night WMB, unsuccessful. What does a gunsmith do?
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May 20, 2015 01:39
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Tirade posted:What does a gunsmith do? Honestly I'm not sure how it works in this game because as I said, I've been blocked both nights, but the idea is you target a player and find out whether they have the ability to night kill. "Do they have a gun: yes/no"
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May 20, 2015 01:42
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It's pretty useless. Like it'll tell you if someone is a scum OR serial killer OR vigilante but won't tell you which is the case. So say I targeted Beet and it came up "has a gun", it'd still be possible he was a vig, etc.
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May 20, 2015 01:45
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I am not a scum, although I'll grant my voting record isn't exactly stellar. I do hold up the Godfather's (flimsy) pressure against me as evidence of my innocence. I am only at 1/2 lynches to get my project going - the three that are active must belong to other people.
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May 20, 2015 01:45
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Asphyxious posted:Honestly I'm not sure how it works in this game because as I said, I've been blocked both nights, but the idea is you target a player and find out whether they have the ability to night kill. "Do they have a gun: yes/no" So how is it different to a cop? It would pick up on vigs and SKs as well? I think you're full of poo poo for what it's worth, that sounds really useful but you said earlier that your investigative role was crap.
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May 20, 2015 01:46
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My secret project was just "complete TWO investigations!" and I was like hah piece of piss. But nope. Block, block, lynched.
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May 20, 2015 01:47
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Tirade posted:So how is it different to a cop? It would pick up on vigs and SKs as well? I think you're full of poo poo for what it's worth, that sounds really useful but you said earlier that your investigative role was crap. Really? It seems crap to me. Maybe I'd be more hyped if any of them had gone through. It's like learned helplessness.
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May 20, 2015 01:48
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thatbastardken posted:I am not a scum, although I'll grant my voting record isn't exactly stellar. I do hold up the Godfather's (flimsy) pressure against me as evidence of my innocence. I am only at 1/2 lynches to get my project going - the three that are active must belong to other people. My mistake, I thought you were in on Amnistar's lynching.
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May 20, 2015 01:49
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Mithranderp posted:I am not scum, in fact I am a town bus driver Considering bus driver is an anti town role, colour me highly sceptical.
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May 20, 2015 01:51
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Asphyxious posted:Yeah I dunno what to tell you, I'm not scum. I'm a town gunsmith who's been blocked BOTH nights. First night Beet, got back unsuccessful, second night WMB, unsuccessful. I thought here you said you tried to kill me then I saw your post on what it does. That actually sounds kind of useful considering that vig was dead, it's a high chance that anyone you got a positive on was either a serial killer or scum. How is that not useful? Asphyxious posted:I will offer that if I was scum I'd have worked out Gough was a cop instead of just being an rear end in a top hat and what I certainly wouldn't have done is spend most of last night saying how I thought the scum godfather was being scummy. Like I'm not a team player but I wouldn't deliberately gently caress over my scum team on the way out. Both of these don't make a lot sense, how would you have worked out Gough was a cop? Also you hardly threw bif under a bus, you pointed suspicion at her when there was no real drive, and there was no real momentum. It's a great role (the godfather) to put out there to attract an investigation for obvious reasons.
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May 20, 2015 01:53
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Mithranderp posted:If it was a different game I wouldn't have role claimed, but for this game, tbh I'm not too worried. because you're scum?
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May 20, 2015 01:54
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Gough's certainty about Gaspy is pretty damning. Also, Gaspy made a lot of noises about Bif being scum but was happy to vote with her against TOML last night.
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May 20, 2015 01:55
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Matthew Beet posted:because you're scum? There's the Beet I remember. Where's this been for the past few days?
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May 20, 2015 01:56
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I guess the advantage of gunsmith is that you'd know if they can kill regardless of whether they have. fwiw I targeted tbk last night and was unsuccessful, which supports Mith's claim.
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May 20, 2015 01:57
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Matthew Beet posted:I thought here you said you tried to kill me then I saw your post on what it does. That actually sounds kind of useful considering that vig was dead, it's a high chance that anyone you got a positive on was either a serial killer or scum. How is that not useful? Hindsight and all that but if I wasn't town and Gough was going at me THAT hard I'd like to think I'd have worked out why. He was unflinching and resolute, exactly how you'd expect someone to act on a known scum. But yeah this is it Beet. You get your lynch. It'll leave too much ambiguity to keep me around. like from here would anyone even listen to what I have to say?
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May 20, 2015 01:58
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MaliciousOnion posted:I guess the advantage of gunsmith is that you'd know if they can kill regardless of whether they have. What no it doesn't. It should still have been successful. It would have just gone to a dead Bif.
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May 20, 2015 02:00
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thatbastardken posted:Gough's certainty about Gaspy is pretty damning. Also, Gaspy made a lot of noises about Bif being scum but was happy to vote with her against TOML last night. connect the dots.
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May 20, 2015 02:00
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Either Mith or MO is full of poo poo right now.
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May 20, 2015 02:00
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thatbastardken posted:Gough's certainty about Gaspy is pretty damning. Also, Gaspy made a lot of noises about Bif being scum but was happy to vote with her against TOML last night. Nope I'm town, and I don't lie  like I can tell you why I'm not worried if you really want to know, but it's better for town that I don't.
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May 20, 2015 02:01
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Asphyxious posted:What no it doesn't. It should still have been successful. It would have just gone to a dead Bif. Would it come back as successful if the target is dead though?
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May 20, 2015 02:03
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Asphyxious posted:Hindsight and all that but if I wasn't town and Gough was going at me THAT hard I'd like to think I'd have worked out why. He was unflinching and resolute, exactly how you'd expect someone to act on a known scum. Yeah, it's a funny thing that he turned up dead today. Soz bro. ##vote asphyxious
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May 20, 2015 02:03
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Er wait, my first post up there should have quoted beet asking if I'm not worried because I'm scum. Phone postin'
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May 20, 2015 02:04
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Asphyxious posted:Either Mith or MO is full of poo poo right now. Or you are. MO could have been roleblocked.
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May 20, 2015 02:04
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Asphyxious posted:What no it doesn't. It should still have been successful. It would have just gone to a dead Bif. I guess I could have been roleblocked, though that would mean there's at least two roleblockers, since you claim you were roleblocked as well.
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May 20, 2015 02:05
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Mithranderp posted:Would it come back as successful if the target is dead though? Yes. Assuming you have one night phase, Bif would receive the invention AND die.
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May 20, 2015 02:05
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Mithranderp, you didn't answer my question about why you chose the people you drove. I'm not blaming you, it was at the bottom of the last page, but I'd like it answered.
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May 20, 2015 02:06
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MaliciousOnion posted:I guess the advantage of gunsmith is that you'd know if they can kill regardless of whether they have. does it? it would have gone to bif, dead or not, i think. like your action would have been successful regardless i would have thought.
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May 20, 2015 02:06
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Mithranderp posted:Nope bullshit, you're as untrustworthy as bif.
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May 20, 2015 02:07
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MaliciousOnion posted:I guess I could have been roleblocked, though that would mean there's at least two roleblockers, since you claim you were roleblocked as well. Tirade posted:Or you are. MO could have been roleblocked. I'm going to file "two roleblockers" as highly improbable of a game this size. Like its role heavy but two people running around shutting everything down is a bit much.
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May 20, 2015 02:07
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Asphyxious posted:I'm going to file "two roleblockers" as highly improbable of a game this size. Like its role heavy but two people running around shutting everything down is a bit much. Well the second role block is solely based on your word, which we can't verify unless soag or someone else fesses up.
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May 20, 2015 02:09
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Asphyxious posted:I'm going to file "two roleblockers" as highly improbable of a game this size. Like its role heavy but two people running around shutting everything down is a bit much. Maybe. You yourself have run multiple games where both town and scum have had a roleblocker. It's not inconceivable that a town blocker has been targeting you at night, you've not exactly been a shining beacon of towniness.
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May 20, 2015 02:11
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Matthew Beet posted:Well the second role block is solely based on your word, which we can't verify unless soag or someone else fesses up. Uhm. I said I had an investigative role. Pretty sure if I'm being roleblocked it's by scum. Why would they fess up?
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May 20, 2015 02:11
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secret project could make a double role block. or phyx is clutching at straws
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May 20, 2015 02:12
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MaliciousOnion posted:Mithranderp, you didn't answer my question about why you chose the people you drove. I'm not blaming you, it was at the bottom of the last page, but I'd like it answered. Sure, I thought WMB was a bit scummy on night one, and wanted to protect razor, so switched them. Unfortunately for me WMB was the real target. I switched bif with tbk because I thought if she's town and has a doodad and tries to use it,it'll protect her from role blocks. And if she was scum she probably wouldnt use it unless it was an offensive weapon. Tbh I thought she was town and found tbk scumny, so I switched them. I was just lucky this time.
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Tirade posted:Maybe. You yourself have run multiple games where both town and scum have had a roleblocker. It's not inconceivable that a town blocker has been targeting you at night, you've not exactly been a shining beacon of towniness. Hm. True.
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