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bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010
You know what more open world games need? Cornfields. Lot of cornfields, because that's what everything in central/southern Illinois is. I mean, don't you want to drive through cornfields? Dodge tornadoes?

But seriously, I'm not following the flow of that last cutscene. I mean, dude. There are women on the internet. Women who do terrible things like you do and try to justify it to themselves at night. If anything, the only issue I take with 'badboy17' is that it's a boring-rear end name. I mean, was she even trying? Come on. Have more fun with it, if you're going to hide behind it. But then again, watching Aiden try to find dudes and ask them if they're bad boys is both cringe-worthy and hilarious, so I guess it evens out. As far as the writing goes, anyways.

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kalonZombie
May 24, 2010

D&D 3.5 Book of Erotic Fantasy
I feel secondhand embarassment for whoever wrote that trainwreck of a cutscene.

Ulvirich
Jun 26, 2007

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

The car stealth is a pretty cool thing you can do against invaders

My best shenanigans with this one was invading someone else and I'm in a dump truck in a suburban area. Obeying all the traffic lights, and rules of the road while the guy slowly goes more and more insane shooting full auto at cars and the oncoming police cruisers. While I, in the humble dump truck cruise on over to the parking lot of the apartment complex I'm making circles around, park within the lines, and watch the police manhandle the poor sap.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Geostomp posted:

This game is so predictable I was calling him being a woman from the moment I heard the "we need to meet" line.

I did too, but mostly because Badboy17's voice sounded like a female voice run through a synthesizer.

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


:lol: Aiden, whose niece was killed by crooks mad at him for stealing from them, is bitching out a woman who constructed a secret identity, presumably at least in part to protect herself from reprisals for all the shady poo poo she does.

Also, threatening to choke a woman who has done nothing but help him. This is the guy I'm supposed to identify with? :lol:

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
People's screen names aren't reflective of what they actually are?

Are you saying that General Ironicus isn't the robot ruler of Roman Empire Earth?

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

I did too, but mostly because Badboy17's voice sounded like a female voice run through a synthesizer.
It still even had the same drat French accent too.

bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010

Patter Song posted:

People's screen names aren't reflective of what they actually are?

Are you saying that General Ironicus isn't the robot ruler of Roman Empire Earth?

Or that I'm not in 2288?

Pseudoscorpion
Jul 26, 2011


This game is just so bad and I love it. :allears:

I will say the one good thing Watch________Dogs did for me is trick me into buying Sleeping Dogs, an Actual Good Game, under the faulty assumption that the two were somehow related.

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.
He choked her for lying about her A/S/L.

General Ironicus
Aug 21, 2008

Something about this feels kinda hinky

Patter Song posted:

People's screen names aren't reflective of what they actually are?

Are you saying that General Ironicus isn't the robot ruler of Roman Empire Earth?

You may speak to me now. My purple light is on.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012





This gif have a good video behind it?

Bearpigman
Feb 19, 2013

"It's not the beard on the outside that counts, it's the beard on the inside"

RareAcumen posted:

This gif have a good video behind it?

I got to that cutscene in the lp, paused the video, was unable to find a gif reflecting exactly how I felt so I made it myself

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

The game tries to justify the cutscene with Aiden's voiceover talking about wanting to "rattle" Badboy17, but since we've established that Aiden's voiceovers are revisions made after the cutscene mocap, I have to wonder why he was originally going to be even more of a douchebag.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Clara looks like the exact opposite of somebody trying to keep a low profile.

At least Aiden keeps his face covered.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Pseudoscorpion posted:

This game is just so bad and I love it. :allears:

I will say the one good thing Watch________Dogs did for me is trick me into buying Sleeping Dogs, an Actual Good Game, under the faulty assumption that the two were somehow related.

Watch_Dogs would be way better with Pork Bun Guy as the protagonist instead of Aiden,I swear to god. Or Winston. Or even Mrs.Chu.

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010
Great cutscenes.

Obviously the 90-year-old boss of the Chicago Outfit Organized Crime Group would meet a random thief in an alley to receive stolen goods, protected by just one bodyguard. Also he would be fine with personally murdering a that thief right in front of some masked man he didn't know, and then letting that guy go like nothing happened. Those decisions are how you stay out of prison and on top of the Mafia since Prohibition, I guess?

I also really like when Clara says "Don't be stupid. You screw around and people get hurt. Or worse," and Aiden just rolls past it glibly without a twinge of awareness or recognition. Holy poo poo, who wrote this? The plot of the game is he hosed up hacking some people and his niece got killed. Maybe throw in a reference to that, like Aiden says he's learned from his mistakes and he knows how to be careful. Maybe have him get angry, some kind of emotional reaction beyond a smug joke... No? He just smoothly continues being a shithead? Nice. I also dig the petite, tattooed, foreign lady hacker as a stand-in for Lisbeth Salander, except for people who thought Salander was too intimidating. The Girl Who You Can Choke if You Want, She Won't Do Anything About It.

Schenck v. U.S. fucked around with this message at 04:32 on May 21, 2015

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

EvanSchenck posted:

Lisbeth Salander

I knew she was based on something. So that's why she seemed familiar. Except the whole choking thing.

SWMadness
Jul 16, 2011

Excellent.
Oh hey I've got a lot of family that lives in central Illinois, scattered all around between Lincoln to Sprinfield and then further south around Effingham.

I can confirm there are absolutely no mountains in Sangamon county. You have to go MUCH further south to start hitting the Ozarks. :banjo:

SWMadness fucked around with this message at 05:08 on May 21, 2015

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Bearpigman posted:

I got to that cutscene in the lp, paused the video, was unable to find a gif reflecting exactly how I felt so I made it myself

Oh wow, I never expected this game to inspire people to make something! :allears:

So, that last cutscene: Holy poo poo Aiden is going to be a supervillain. You know who threaten and abuse the people they work with? Supervillains. Remember Lazarević? That guy from Uncharted 2 who'd kill off people if they stopped working for him as easily as we'd close non-responsive tabs? That's what Aiden is shaping up into now. Aside from the misogyny of 'wait, you're not a man, I bet you're a spy or a mole there's no way a woman could've been the one supplying me with all this information' and immediately threatening her too, the fact that he's basically bullying someone he's supposed to be working with in the first place to keep them there out of fear is all kinds of levels of hosed up for someone we're supposed to believe is the hero in this story.

Unless the game eventually opens up and says that Aiden is one of the victims in this story but yeah he's absolutely still an rear end in a top hat too.

gregory
Jun 8, 2013

METAL GEAR!
Obviously Aiden has every "Aiden_Pearce##" username already registered, and every year on his birthday he changes his username accordingly.

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Can you imagine if you were someone walking/driving past that alley and saw a dude in a massive overcoat cornering a woman and grabbing her by the neck?

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

BlazeEmblem posted:

I knew she was based on something. So that's why she seemed familiar. Except the whole choking thing.
She also heavily resembles adult film actress Christy Mack. She is absolutely intentionally designed to be "what if Lizbeth Salander was hotter with a porn star body and less intimidating and wanted to be your Real Life Internet Friend Who Is A Girl Who Helps You On Your Vengeance Quest (And Who Knows, She Might Even Fall In Love With You!)".

SWMadness
Jul 16, 2011

Excellent.

Testekill posted:

Can you imagine if you were someone walking/driving past that alley and saw a dude in a massive overcoat cornering a woman and grabbing her by the neck?

Just imagine another vigilante's phone buzzing with a "CRIME IN PROGRESS" alert, who comes out of nowhere in the cutscene to beat the tar out of Aiden with a nightstick. :allears:

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

pkfan2004 posted:

She also heavily resembles adult film actress Christy Mack. She is absolutely intentionally designed to be "what if Lizbeth Salander was hotter with a porn star body and less intimidating and wanted to be your Real Life Internet Friend Who Is A Girl Who Helps You On Your Vengeance Quest (And Who Knows, She Might Even Fall In Love With You!)".

Did this come out before or after Christy Mack was hospitalised by War Machine?

Nohman
Sep 19, 2007
Never been worse.
Ubisoft really puts their effort into recreating settings. I mean look at the hit Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag which depicted the site of Blackbeard's death on Ocracoke Island, North Carolina. I had family I used to go visit there for vacation. In-game it as this:



It features a lengthy jog through those coastal mountains and dense jungle. The actual Ocracoke Island is this:



And it's built up in modern days to have a whole ten foot tall sand dune that isn't washed away in storms. It was basically a sandbar pirates had a few shacks to get drunk on. You have to drive a couple hundred miles inland in North Carolina just to see a loving hill. Much less a mountain. That's ~600 miles or so.

Testekill posted:

Can you imagine if you were someone walking/driving past that alley and saw a dude in a massive overcoat cornering a woman and grabbing her by the neck?

Don't forget moments earlier he seemingly spooked off a teenage boy in a dark alley while in a massive overcoat and hat for what could pretty much could only have been interpreted by any sane people as a drug deal or an underaged sex meet-up. Or both. Aiden is a creepy motherfucker.

Nohman fucked around with this message at 05:38 on May 21, 2015

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

To be fair, I can't really blame them for embellishing stuff in a game like AssCreed. It's weirder here since I doubt this is the kind of game where Aiden will be spending a lot of time going around in the forest or mountaineering.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

SWMadness posted:

Just imagine another vigilante's phone buzzing with a "CRIME IN PROGRESS" alert, who comes out of nowhere in the cutscene to beat the tar out of Aiden with a nightstick. :allears:

This would've absolutely made that cutscene.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Testekill posted:

Did this come out before or after Christy Mack was hospitalised by War Machine?
Before. Months before.

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.

Motto posted:

To be fair, I can't really blame them for embellishing stuff in a game like AssCreed. It's weirder here since I doubt this is the kind of game where Aiden will be spending a lot of time going around in the forest or mountaineering.

Yeah, Black Flag has the excuse that it takes place in a simulation designed by notUbisoft. For this I guess they were just hoping no one from Illinois or a basic knowledge of US geography would play it.

PublicOpinion
Oct 21, 2010

Her style is new but the face is the same as it was so long ago...
I watched a friend stream some of W_D with a mod that replaces Aiden's model with the nephew's. This cutscene featuring child-Aiden made the "You're exactly what I expected" line a goddamn killer.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
i am glad that somebody at ubisoft wanted to gently caress the hot internet video game goth hacker sidekick, because i can't think of any reason to put in such a dumb love interest other than some employee's nerd fantasy

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

dreezy posted:

Yeah, Black Flag has the excuse that it takes place in a simulation designed by notUbisoft. For this I guess they were just hoping no one from Illinois or a basic knowledge of US geography would play it.

They used the notUbi setting to begin being less accurate with geography.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

I really like Clara's design.

Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
Aiden answers his phone.
"Hello"
"gently caress!"
"I'm on my way."

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Re. The drinking game, they could have been drinking Hi-story fortified wine, which looks (and tastes!) just like soy sauce.

Oh yeah, that cut scene is terrible. In almost every way imaginable.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

bman in 2288 posted:

You know what more open world games need? Cornfields. Lot of cornfields, because that's what everything in central/southern Illinois is. I mean, don't you want to drive through cornfields? Dodge tornadoes?

So, what you're saying is, the first area of the Witcher 3 is totally your ideal game!


Anyway: remember when I said the edits to the story got apparent? Here's one. Aiden gives poo poo to Clara when they meet in person, then apologizes over the phone afterwards and says he was just trying to psych her out to see if she was the real deal. That's an edit.

Once you start looking for the seams in this game's narrative you can spot them all over the place...

It's pretty weak that we are never given an option to go all vigilante on Lucky Quinn when he is clearly the most evil bad guy in the universe and five feet away from us. If it were me I'd at least have the justification that we're surrounded by ten guys with guns pointed at the car ready to turn it to swiss cheese, or that the cops are still right outside our alley so we don't want to make any noise or something.

That thug probably should not have been executed on the spot, either. I mean, it's to show that Quinn is evil, right, but hey, he finished the mission!

EDIT: VVVVV Basically, Witcher 3 starts out in a massive farmland area. Though there's more to it than that, at least; some bogs, a corpse-ridden battlefield attracting ghouls to its stench, some hidden areas.

Speedball fucked around with this message at 06:57 on May 21, 2015

bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010
Can anyone explain if what she's trying to do is a sort of punk thing, or just a way to garner interest from what looks to be the love-interest in the game... wait. If Aiden gets a love interest, does this mean he's going to have to go outside and interact meaningfully with people who aren't related to him, and do so voluntarily? Because Aiden doesn't seem that kind of guy to me.

Also, I've never touched Witcher, so I don't know what to say.

Generic American
Mar 15, 2012

I love my Peng


I'll say it like I've said a thousand times before about this game; Clara should have been the protagonist. :colbert:

I mean, it wouldn't have come *close* to fixing the parade of problems that plague Watch_Dogs at every corner, but at least that would have been a more interesting choice for a lead character by going against the grain. Aiden's whole schtick is that he's got this super secret vigilante persona, but never acts like it. Literally the only thing he does is pull up his mask and start speaking like a chain smoker. But with Clara, the game could have said some really interesting things regarding online identity, anonymity, and presentation. Her online pseudonym overtly establishes her as male, and even without the game touching on the subtext, you can read more into that one minor facet than the entirety of Aiden's character.

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Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Seems like a cardboard box would be a better protagonist than Aiden. And I guess we probably haven't even seen the worst of it but uggggh I'm so glad I didn't end up spending money on this.

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