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verily carefree
Apr 5, 2014

Soricidus posted:

accidentally corrupt all copies of it in existence so they have to pay someone to rewrite it as a web app

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Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

"open" as in the mouth of rms

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

pseudorandom name posted:

why haven't you packaged the spreadsheet up in a Docker VM yet?

Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

(_!_)
Buglord

Captain Foo posted:

mandriva is being liquidated, :rip:

rip my linux job

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
mandrake the distribution is still alive: http://www.mageia.org/en/

mandrake the company is dead as a doornail. i don't know how much demand there was for francophone business support for a distribution no one uses

Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

(_!_)
Buglord
there's also OpenMandriva: https://www.openmandriva.org/

my job as an OEM developer was to basically tweak it for other companies' specific hardware

it was a challenging job but also fun and I learned a lot in a short time but welp

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
remembers when mandrake was a lovely red hat clone and didnt even bother to remove the red hat logos from the cd

nosl
Jan 17, 2015

CHIM, bitch!

Suspicious Dish posted:

remembers when mandrake was a lovely red hat clone and didnt even bother to remove the red hat logos from the cd

The funny part is, Mandriva was a lovely Mandrake clone and still felt like a lovely RHEL clone. No loss.

I despise RHEL but I'm pretty sure that when someone wants to use a distro with RHEL ancestry, they will just use RHEL. Even dumbass IT departments can use RHEL with their paid tech support. Just imagine their loving phonecalls.

"Yeah, I see the dollar bill sign, now what"

poo poo.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Symbolic Butt posted:

rip my linux job

hacker news says it was because those drat employees wanted to get paid

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

Symbolic Butt posted:

dude I can't give you a fair answer yet because I got the job literally today and it'll take me about 2 weeks to really start working there

so yeah, see you in 2 months when I'll be able to answer you better than "they provide linux services for people who needs linuxing"

:rip: your jorb, ironically based on when you posted that it only lasted about 2 months of on the job time for you

so did you ever find out what they did beyond provide linux services for people who needs linuxing

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

Symbolic Butt posted:

nah I'm not yospos smart like that, it's a way smaller company (mandriva)

this is what i thought, but lo and behold i start at red hat on monday.


Suspicious Dish posted:

is it red hat? because red hat owns and you will have a good time at red hat

very glad to hear it. i knew you'd worked there but i couldn't remember if you actually liked them.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
heavily depends where you are in the company. are you doing rhel eng, and are you under hosted experience, dev experience, or server experience?

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

Suspicious Dish posted:

heavily depends where you are in the company. are you doing rhel eng, and are you under hosted experience, dev experience, or server experience?

Not really sure where I fall in under that hierarchy. I'll be working on the subscriptions systems, "the engineering wing of the IT branch" is sort of how it was described. I'm sure I'll know on Monday. I spent a long time talking to the PM/Team about what they do but it was well over a month ago now so I don't really remember.

I really liked the team, so I think that bodes well. It's a contract for hire/external recruiter deal, which probably explains why I only have a vague idea of what I'll be doing.

DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 21:31 on May 30, 2015

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
oh, you're under HSS then. yeah, they own, except they kept changing the internal wiki every 6 months

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

Suspicious Dish posted:

oh, you're under HSS then. yeah, they own, except they kept changing the internal wiki every 6 months

well i suppose that's better than letting it be 6 months out of date..

anyhow glad to hear it. i didn't get any red flags at all, i'm fairly confident the work environment will be good. i'm basically dealing with a form of imposter syndrome where i think 'well they hired me so they must just want me to do web forms in rails'

Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

(_!_)
Buglord

eschaton posted:

hacker news says it was because those drat employees wanted to get paid

they paid me fine, I have no idea what was going on with the french part of the company (much less what they actually did) but the whole thing sounds full bananacakes

the brazilian part of the company was doing ok and was pretty much independent of the french part (other than the CEO coming over to brazil sometimes.) whatever happened there brought everything down


BobHoward posted:

:rip: your jorb, ironically based on when you posted that it only lasted about 2 months of on the job time for you

so did you ever find out what they did beyond provide linux services for people who needs linuxing

that was pretty much it, like it wasn't exclusive to the Mandriva distributions, we also gave support to companies that used like SUSE Linux

and oh, there were some cloud services that I was supposed to help with eventually. but I was too busy with all the OEM stuff and the company broke so I can't claim that I used to sell cloud and cloud based accessories


MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

this is what i thought, but lo and behold i start at red hat on monday.

NICE!

this isn't even a surprise twist though, you're obviously yospos smart

celeron 300a
Jan 23, 2005

by exmarx
Yam Slacker
Ok, so this isn't really desktop linux (although everyone's desktop probably has a ready icon to the terminal anyway) but yum is officially deprecated in the latest fedora.

Hopefully the next major item on the list is renaming fedora to rhel beta or something.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
This is about 10 years too late. And dnf is still poo poo compared to that.

I'm at least glad the core logic is in C so I can use it from an app without having to fork out to god-awful slow, lock-heavy Python. Yes, I do know communicating through vaguely-defined commands and scraping English text is the UNIX way.

pram
Jun 10, 2001
just use brew

anyway RIP yellowdog updater lol (in 10 years when everyones on rhel 8?)

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

pram posted:

just use brew

anyway RIP yellowdog updater lol (in 10 years when everyones on rhel 8?)

since dnf is yum compatible i'd say there's a non-zero chance it gets folded into rhel 7

not a high probability, but more than none

moonshine is......
Feb 21, 2007

Valeyard posted:

i need a smallish netbook that has an ok battery and doesnt need to be very powerful, im ok with having a linux and im guessing this is a usecase for the chomebook but idk

http://www.johnlewis.com/toshiba-cb30-b-104-chromebook-intel-celeron-4gb-ram-16gb-ssd-13-3-silver/

is there anything else in that range that would be better

Don't know what you're going to do with it, but I have an hp stream 13, and it's been working for me. You can lunix or you can windows 8.

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker
Upgraded my gaming machine to Fedora 22. Needs suiting. GNOME still pretty; still not going near my work machine.

I am amazed that the Fedora upgrade process does not have a GUI, or any built-in mechanism, though. With Debian, you just dist-upgrade, with Fedora, I had to run some specialised tool with weird flags.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

at least you can upgrade, doesn't mint require a flatten and reinstall for every new version?

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Yeah, and it doesn't even default to giving your home directory a separate partition.

I like it anyway. :3:

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

mint is trash lol

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Athas posted:

Upgraded my gaming machine to Fedora 22. Needs suiting. GNOME still pretty; still not going near my work machine.

I am amazed that the Fedora upgrade process does not have a GUI, or any built-in mechanism, though. With Debian, you just dist-upgrade, with Fedora, I had to run some specialised tool with weird flags.

preupgrade had a GUI, they replaced it with fedup (which doesn't) and they're planning on replacing fedup with something else that uses systemd's upgrade/maintenance mode instead of a specialized boot image

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

pseudorandom name posted:

preupgrade had a GUI, they replaced it with fedup (which doesn't) and they're planning on replacing fedup with something else that uses systemd's upgrade/maintenance mode instead of a specialized boot image

:mad: Poettering! :mad:

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker

pseudorandom name posted:

preupgrade had a GUI, they replaced it with fedup (which doesn't) and they're planning on replacing fedup with something else that uses systemd's upgrade/maintenance mode instead of a specialized boot image

Good.

I found it amazing that upgrading Fedora was essentially the same process as upgrading OpenBSD, only more confusing and more poorly documented.

Marsol0
Jun 6, 2004
No avatar. I just saved you some load time. You're welcome.
I'm fedup with this

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!

Last Chance posted:

mint is trash lol

I love how it hides security updates from average users so they get online unpatched it owns !

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
from freedom came elegance

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
I agree you should shorten it to Mint. It definitely needs a new slogan.

Elegance has a lot of negative connotations, and frankly, I don't think Mint is all that elegant. I love Mint, but not for it's "elegance". I love it for it's simplicity. It's stability. It's ease of use. It's simple and appealing default look. It's familiarity of layout by default seeming like Windows. It's "Clean". It's "Fresh". Mint is a great name for it. The slogan is pretty meh compared to how great Mint itself is.

Simple.
Clean.
Fresh.
Easy.
Stable.
Solid.

Linux Mint
Because my mom can't figure out Windows.

Linux Mint
It just can't get easier.

Linux Mint
Your computer always works now.

Mint
Solid. Easy. Free.

Mint
What your computer should have been 10 years ago.

Mint
It just works.

Mint
No viruses. No crashes. No fees.

Mint
Your car won't run forever, but now your computer can.

Feel free to riff off my ideas, combine the concepts, reword them... But definitely Mint needs a new Image. I think just making it Mint would be a good first step.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

I agree you should shorten it to Mint. It definitely needs a new slogan.

Elegance has a lot of negative connotations, and frankly, I don't think Mint is all that elegant. I love Mint, but not for it's "elegance". I love it for it's simplicity. It's stability. It's ease of use. It's simple and appealing default look. It's familiarity of layout by default seeming like Windows. It's "Clean". It's "Fresh". Mint is a great name for it. The slogan is pretty meh compared to how great Mint itself is.

Simple.
Clean.
Fresh.
Easy.
Stable.
Solid.

Linux Mint
Because my mom can't figure out Windows.

Linux Mint
It just can't get easier.

Linux Mint
Your computer always works now.

Mint
Solid. Easy. Free.

Mint
What your computer should have been 10 years ago.

Mint
It just works.

Mint
No viruses. No crashes. No fees.

Mint
Your car won't run forever, but now your computer can.

Feel free to riff off my ideas, combine the concepts, reword them... But definitely Mint needs a new Image. I think just making it Mint would be a good first step.

source 'em

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=153&t=26908&start=20#p195817

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
Linux mint: It's coming in the next version

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
Linux Mint: Who needs files from more than six months ago anyway

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Linux Mint: :pt:

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
at yone point i had my gf and brother setup with linux and whilst i used an airbook. both of them on mint. although i think i started them on arch (thus the mint).

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gabensraum
Sep 16, 2003


LOAD "NICE!",8,1
2005 year of linux mint on the desktop

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