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colonel_korn posted:The big announcement was... that they will make more announcements next month. lol
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I'm sure everyone here agrees that Canadian polls are garbage, but this is just precious.
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Aug 2, 2015 23:27
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I hope you motherfuckers love inflationquote:
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Aug 2, 2015 23:27
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The worst part of the whole thing is that if there's any result which isn't a CPC government their response in opposition is going to be to try to turn their base into full-on rejectionists who think that any non-CPC government is illegal, unconstitutional, invalid, etc.
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Aug 2, 2015 23:32
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Cultural Imperial posted:I hope you motherfuckers love inflation The lowest the Canadian Dollar has been since 1950 is $1.62, in 2002.
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Aug 2, 2015 23:35
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cuttooth posted:A coalition with which party, though? Might there be enough blue Liberals to turn a CPC minority into a CPC/Lib coalition, or maybe we would see Liberal floor-crossers? I mean, that would probably spell the end for Liberal support in many camps, but still...I worry. I think Red Tory Liberals crossing the floor or simply voting with the Minority Conservative government against a no confidence motion is a reasonably likely outcome. There is a conservative wing to the Liberal party that everyone keeps ignoring and the 2008-2009 near coalition seemed to be deeply controversial within the Liberal party. The recent Ekos Poll found that 26% of Liberal supporters would rather have a Conservative Minority than a Lib/NDP coalition with Mulcair as PM. It bothers me to see young "anyone but Harper" voters in ridings where there is a neck and neck Lib/Conservative race, but where NDP are a near third, voting Liberal. The voters are planning on strategically voting Liberal to keep the Conservative out because they think they're doing the right thing by voting out the Conservative, but they're maintaining the opposition party split, and hoping on a coalition which has never appeared and is unlikely to appear in the future. The better strategy is to vote NDP, the only opposition party which is nationally popular and can win.
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Aug 2, 2015 23:38
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colonel_korn posted:The big announcement was... that they will make more announcements next month. lol Oh god that idiot is back
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Aug 2, 2015 23:40
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Femtosecond posted:The better strategy is to vote NDP, the only opposition party which is nationally popular and can win. This is pretty much where I'm at. Screw strategic voting, even though I'm now just barely in a new riding that has no hope of voting any way other than Conservative. I was literally redistributed by 6 blocks.
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Aug 2, 2015 23:55
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yellowcar posted:"WE AREN'T IN A RECESSION, STATSCAN AND ECONOMISTS ARE LIARS BECAUSE MY LITTLE BUMFUCK TOWN IN ALBERTA HASN'T BEEN AFFECTED YET" I heard that gentleman as well. He also denied that the drought was affecting the prairies and guaranteed a huge bumper crop for everything being grown this year. Repeatedly invited the rest of the country to come to Alberta for all the fabulous jobs. Stated that everyone he knew was already long sick of the Notley government and couldn't wait to get rid of her. Complained that no one from the premier's office was responding to his  e-mails.Anything the host challenged him with was met with something along the lines of, "Well how the heck would YOU know? You and StatsCan ain't from around here, ARE YA?  "God bless the producer for letting him on the air. Though I guess it's only appropriate that someone from the conservative base gets some national airtime.
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Aug 3, 2015 00:00
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The Dark One posted:I'm sure everyone here agrees that Canadian polls are garbage, but this is just precious. Hey if you want to take Canadians as advisors why not start with the Canadians in your party who enacted resolutions like implementing a national GMI and crafting a national housing strategy
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Aug 3, 2015 00:28
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What is the Conservative's excuse for an early election start? I mean clearly anyone with half a brain knows it's to try and starve the other parties, but do they even have an ostensible reason they're parroting?
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Aug 3, 2015 00:42
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mik posted:What is the Conservative's excuse for an early election start? I mean clearly anyone with half a brain knows it's to try and starve the other parties, but do they even have an ostensible reason they're parroting? If I'm not mistaken, the party line the Cons are going with is that since all of the parties were already campaigning anyways, officially calling an election will ensure that everyone plays by the rules from here on in.
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Aug 3, 2015 00:46
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mik posted:What is the Conservative's excuse for an early election start? I mean clearly anyone with half a brain knows it's to try and starve the other parties, but do they even have an ostensible reason they're parroting? "We're just following the election rules that were set! We don't have any advantage from this really!  "
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Aug 3, 2015 00:50
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Well I went and tossed the NDP 50$, gotta make the CPC regret their actions.
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Aug 3, 2015 01:49
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Cultural Imperial posted:I hope you motherfuckers love inflation Some inflation is good, so?
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Aug 3, 2015 01:51
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Raenir Salazar posted:Some inflation is good, so? If the CAD goes from parity with the USD to $1.60, the price of imported goods will increase by 60% on top of regular inflation. So no, that's generally not a good thing unless you're happy paying $1400 for an iPhone. On the other hand, it will keep more gold mines and tar sands operations profitable. Assuming they don't need to import equipment.
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Aug 3, 2015 01:57
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Whiskey Sours posted:If the CAD goes from parity with the USD to $1.60, the price of imported goods will increase by 60% on top of regular inflation. So no, that's generally not a good thing unless you're happy paying $1400 for an iPhone. $2/L gas? Thanks NDP!
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Aug 3, 2015 02:04
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Whiskey Sours posted:If the CAD goes from parity with the USD to $1.60, the price of imported goods will increase by 60% on top of regular inflation. So no, that's generally not a good thing unless you're happy paying $1400 for an iPhone. Of course it won't happen, because the moment oil gets hot again the CAD will be a more appealing currency for investors and speculators to hold, driving up the value.
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Aug 3, 2015 02:06
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Whiskey Sours posted:If the CAD goes from parity with the USD to $1.60, the price of imported goods will increase by 60% on top of regular inflation. So no, that's generally not a good thing unless you're happy paying $1400 for an iPhone. That's okay, we can just use locally manufactured Canadian equipment... LOL
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Aug 3, 2015 02:11
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NDP Majority  Bring on the orange waveIkantski posted:$2/L gas? Thanks NDP! If Harper won the election, and our dollar continues its inevitable collapse, he would blame ISIS or those filthy Leftists anyways.
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Aug 3, 2015 02:32
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lonelywurm posted:It would also increase the competitiveness of all export-based industries, including manufacturing, and probably make domestic goods more appealing to consumers.  Except that manufacturing in Canada will never recover, especially in the auto industry because the loonie has no chance in hell with competing with the peso. But hey, vote for the beautiful man child Trudeau because he's going to LEGALIZE WEED 
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Aug 3, 2015 02:50
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Ernest Hemingway posted:If I'm not mistaken, the party line the Cons are going with is that since all of the parties were already campaigning anyways, officially calling an election will ensure that everyone plays by the rules from here on in. How incredibly convenient that this comes like one week after Polievre went around handing out cheques while wearing a CPC t-shirt. 
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Aug 3, 2015 02:52
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lonelywurm posted:It would also increase the competitiveness of all export-based industries, including manufacturing, and probably make domestic goods more appealing to consumers. Yes, but it will also increase the price for Canadian manufacturers to import raw materials, parts and equipment. It will only really be the labor and utilities components of exported good prices that decrease. You also need manufacturers to build *new* factories in Canada if you're expecting more exports from a devalued currency to prop up your economy. Whiskey Sours has issued a correction as of 04:49 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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lonelywurm posted:5/10. You can do better, CI. If you don't believe me, why don't you go look up how much manufacturing has expanded since the first o/n increase this year? Sorry duder but the tragically hip are going to have to write all you southern Ontarians a new ballad about how much life sucks 
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Aug 3, 2015 03:07
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Cultural Imperial posted:If you don't believe me, why don't you go look up how much manufacturing has expanded since the first o/n increase this year? No matter how crappy Ontario becomes, we will never hold a candle to the trash that is Vancouver. At least we have industry 
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Aug 3, 2015 03:11
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Cultural Imperial posted:If you don't believe me, why don't you go look up how much manufacturing has expanded since the first o/n increase this year? Seriously, the actual trolling components of your posts just get weaker and weaker. You gotta get back on your game. You used to be one of the funniest posters in these threads, but you got lazy, man.
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Aug 3, 2015 03:20
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jm20 posted:No matter how crappy Ontario becomes, we will never hold a candle to the trash that is Vancouver. At least we have industry 
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Aug 3, 2015 03:30
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jm20 posted:No matter how crappy Ontario becomes, we will never hold a candle to the trash that is Vancouver. At least we have industry it's a future rust belt vs a current day cayman islands.
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Aug 3, 2015 03:38
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etalian posted:it's a future rust belt vs a current day cayman islands. That's very unfair. The Cayman islands have a nice climate and excellent diving.
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Aug 3, 2015 04:43
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cuttooth posted:This is pretty much where I'm at. Screw strategic voting, even though I'm now just barely in a new riding that has no hope of voting any way other than Conservative. With the per vote subsidy gone, what's the point of *not* voting strategically? Congrats, you voted NDP, but the Conservative candidate narrowly edged out the Liberal. The end result is the greater of two evils. Hooray?
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Aug 3, 2015 04:48
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The Goon posted:With the per vote subsidy gone, what's the point of *not* voting strategically? Congrats, you voted NDP, but the Conservative candidate narrowly edged out the Liberal. The end result is the greater of two evils. Hooray? The goal is to destroy the Liberal party so that the vote splitting stops. Possible short term pain for long term gain and all that. I don't know that I'm on board with that plan, but that's the plan.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:The goal is to destroy the Liberal party so that the vote splitting stops. Possible short term pain for long term gain and all that. You won't kill the Liberals that way.
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Aug 3, 2015 05:09
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Aug 3, 2015 05:14
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And they're doing a wonderful job.
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The Goon posted:With the per vote subsidy gone, what's the point of *not* voting strategically? Congrats, you voted NDP, but the Conservative candidate narrowly edged out the Liberal. The end result is the greater of two evils. Hooray? Has strategic voting ever worked in this country? In any riding, ever?
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Aug 3, 2015 05:18
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The Goon posted:With the per vote subsidy gone, what's the point of *not* voting strategically? Congrats, you voted NDP, but the Conservative candidate narrowly edged out the Liberal. The end result is the greater of two evils. Hooray? Now, Trudeau is not Ignatieff, so we don't know if he'd do the same spineless bullshit. But the Tories' long, long campaign will almost certainly assure they're the only party with a dollar left by the end, making another election an unenviable task - and Trudeau has been incredibly petty about the idea of working with Mulcair, in any capacity. The combination of a depleted war-chest and Trudeau's stated unwillingness to work with Mulcair certainly has obvious parallels to Ignatieff's time leading the Liberals in '08-'10.
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Aug 3, 2015 05:20
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cuttooth posted:Has strategic voting ever worked in this country? In any riding, ever? Right now, I'm in a riding where I don't even know if it is possible to strategic vote. The incumbent minister is retiring and the three candidates for the main parties are all new to the game. It's an open contest, and I won't find out if strategic voting would've helped or not until after the results are already tallied.
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cuttooth posted:Has strategic voting ever worked in this country? In any riding, ever? How would you know?
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Morroque posted:Right now, I'm in a riding where I don't even know if it is possible to strategic vote. The incumbent minister is retiring and the three candidates for the main parties are all new to the game. It's an open contest, and I won't find out if strategic voting would've helped or not until after the results are already tallied. I'm now in Calgary Signal Hill, which incorporated parts of Calgary West: the people who voted for Rob Anders. The Conservatives have pretty reliably taken more than double the votes of the riding's first runner up.
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