Outrail posted:Jesus. I've posted almost 1000 times in one thread?! If it makes you better, I have more than second and third place combined! Oh god what have I done with my life!?!? I vote uh... uh... R - Play as someone who didn't spend long hours of his precious time on earth on this game!
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I hope I have time to break 3000 posts
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Diogines posted:If it makes you better, I have more than second and third place combined! The Hunger consumes us all!
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Aug 27, 2015 04:45
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SerSpook posted:I hope I have time to break 3000 posts come on man you know these numbers are small time
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Aug 27, 2015 04:48
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bonus hole boy posted:come on man you know these numbers are small time 
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Aug 27, 2015 04:50
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John_A_Tallon posted:Why stop there? Why not rebuild Enkidel's body as a woman before he jumps back in it? Lead by example! Also: hollylolly posted:What do we do after it eats the sun? Diogines posted:I vote uh... uh... R - Play as someone who didn't spend long hours of his precious time on earth on this game!
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Aug 27, 2015 05:02
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Plan Basscop I'm looking forward to the Odysseus route. I almost modified the vote to try to stop the hungerdemon too, we should clean up our mess regardless of what the Melachim want. But there's about an even chance we'd screw it up into a far worse disaster.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:02
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Ab It's plainly clear that we can't be trusted to handle things on our own. Time to face the music with some dignity.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:05
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DF Move the balls and rebuild our body from our old one. Then deal with Mr. Bitey. Ab voters, DF is Ab but with the added bit of giving the balls a boost home so they don't get eaten by giants and sending dad's shield back.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:06
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Aug 27, 2015 05:08
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We've seen the sword of Smythos come down, we've seen the void outside the world, hell we might of even seen the world is round maybe we could've used that at some point, it's all for naught now. In the style of Snarls's namesake, Chaos Dunk the Demon into space. Now we are all sons of bitches, cuz it's a Slam Jam.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:15
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Basscop gently caress da police.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:17
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CF; staying the course assuming we can try to make sure to teleport the balls away from the Hunger Demon's path.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:18
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Tsyni posted:It actually was pretty close back then, I seem to recall... I think the vote itself even won, and then we went to the temple first to drop the injured guy off and then we decided not to go. I think it had a lot of "Oh yeah, that'd be sweet.", but I don't remember it getting many actual votes.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:33
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Bularin posted:Basscop But not the fish police.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:33
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Of course not. gently caress da fish police 
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Aug 27, 2015 05:45
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Angela Christine posted:DF Move the balls and rebuild our body from our old one. Then deal with Mr. Bitey. In that case I'm voting for DF.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:46
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Df ^^^ I want Enkidel to end his story as a hero.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:47
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Slaan posted:Of course not. gently caress da fish police 
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Aug 27, 2015 05:54
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Guys I know my plan is late, but if we launch the demon into space it'll be away from any food source and go back to being mindlessly hungry, have no way to return with flapping useless wings in the void, and most importantly Enkidel can return through the Snarls tether. Also the demon might collide with Sojenus at some point.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:59
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I'll add an F to my D vote. I'll also be kinda sad if we go from "please please please I'll do anything to atone" to "haha, later nerds" in one update. Can we please just take responsibility? I know my message to the trio is kind of... caustic, but I do intend to do as they say, just after we see our family and followers to safety. I voted on the wrong side of the Great Disaster Vote, and I genuinely feel bad about that and want to make amends to the imaginary angel-gods and our other imaginary friends. What I'm saying is, this has been a great game, fantastically realized; if it has to end, this seems like as good a way as any. GloriousDemon posted:Guys I know my plan is late, but if we launch the demon into space it'll be away from any food source and go back to being mindlessly hungry, have no way to return with flapping useless wings in the void, and most importantly Enkidel can return through the Snarls tether. Also the demon might collide with Sojenus at some point. On the other hand, Diog, do we have any new information about the state of the physical universe that leads us to believe this could possibly work? If we know for a fact that space exists, I'd be alright with putting the demon in a stable orbit and loving off elsewhere. Slightly Lions fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 06:01
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Plus, the demon can teleport itself as well, it just doesn't know it yet. Eventually, it would figure it out.
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Aug 27, 2015 06:18
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Diogines posted:If it makes you better, I have more than second and third place combined! On the other hand I never wrote Mrs Blyton a several hundred page letter telling her what Dick should do to Fanny in the next book.
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Aug 27, 2015 06:24
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the_steve posted:Plus, the demon can teleport itself as well, it just doesn't know it yet. Eventually, it would figure it out. We are hopefully halfway to the North Pole by then.
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Aug 27, 2015 06:30
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the_steve posted:Plus, the demon can teleport itself as well, it just doesn't know it yet. Eventually, it would figure it out. Or it will become too hungry to think rationally. My plan is risky but it's the inbetween of abandoning the world to the fate of a demon god and just obeying orders to our death. It's a solution to an impossible problem on our terms not theirs. Diogines posted:Whatever limited fragments of control it has will be lost if it is starved.
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Aug 27, 2015 06:33
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Df, then. Heck, I'm almost excited about this.
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Aug 27, 2015 06:38
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D - Send the Balls back with the shield/belongings The melachim forbade us from Telling them, not from Teleporting them 
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Aug 27, 2015 06:48
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Ab I dont like the Melachim, I hate being kept in the dark, I hate being lied to, and I hate that we still don't know a goddamned thing, but we need to fix this. Also I don't want to start an arguement, but won't plan Basscop result in our Balls never being able to return home with that forbidden knowledge and we'd probably starve without people worshipping us? Travic fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 06:50
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Travic posted:we'd probably starve without people worshipping us? There does seem to be a bit of a problem there. We gain a small trickle as it is now, and we've just determined that it does indeed seem to have something to do with our relationships. Without people attached to us our small trickle will likely move to a small drain. We'd be able to wander alone for a while, if we top off from Snarls' well quite sufficiently and don't spend too much grappling the Demon we shouldn't have to worry about the passive drain, but sooner or later we'll need to find a way of replenishing our well, and if we can't find people to forge appropriate relationships with, there seems to be very few other ways we know of doing so... Maybe we can create a race of sentient fish capable of worshipping us, and start populating the rivers...
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Aug 27, 2015 07:14
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Maybe we create our own race of worshipers. A race of Dog people. Loyal Snarls clones mixed with Enkidel.
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Aug 27, 2015 07:20
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Tell our balls: Go home. Do not defy me in this, if you were ever my comrade, my friend, my brother, or my son, you will return home now and never return to this place. Ab As before, get our body and lets kick this fuckers face North. D But of course get them our shield and get them to gently caress out of here.
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Blast, DF I guess. If we can, give the Balls a vision of us grappling with a mighty Demon and sailing north, far north towards Zepath. Some stray powers pick them up and whisk them along halfway with us. Have the vision involve Tudiya's shield dropping down as we pass over them, to explain its presence among them. That should make them want to continue on north to find where they think we've gone. I just can't comfortably reconcile an Enkidel who professes his sense of responsibility and asks for help, with one who then turns and leaves it all for someone else to deal with when he's not completely happy with the answer. Should have voted for time compression. Won't be around most of the next 24 hours so I suppose I'd best get that vote in now. Good game everyone.
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This has been an amazing trip for the balls. We almost strip our town of defenders because we want to bring as many as possible. Maximum balls for maximum tactical flexibility. Then we hike them through the wilderness for months and don't let them fight much of anything because we don't want anyone to get hurt. And then we go off alone, something goes wrong, and we tell them to go home. Oh the tales they'll tell and the songs they'll sing.
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Oh my god I have way too many posts. Time to quit for a week. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.
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Theglavwen posted:I dunno, honestly curious, what bad things do you suppose would have come from us knowing? This is mostly an only semi-related rant - if you want a specific and direct answer to this exact question I'll jam it in right at the end, so skip down there if you're not interested in anything else. But otherwise? What bad things might have come from us knowing? Here's my answer: We don't know. And that's the problem. We don't know what the secrets of the universe are. We don't know what the Melachim are capable of. We don't know the nature of reality or of demons or of El. We don't know what price is involved with the use of power, nor the history of the use of power, nor the long-term repercussions that might emerge from the use of power. We don't know what secrets lead inevitably to more secrets which lead to more secrets which eventually leads to our splitting the atom on a whim. We don't know how exactly the afterlife works, or what Mt. Har is made of, or what happens to souls if they're eaten. We don't know, even, what we don't know. And yet despite drowning in a sea of ignorance we proclaim our judgement superior to all those around us. Despite knowing nothing about what is possible or what the costs of any given action are, we despise the Melachim and all others for not having made of the world a perfect paradise. "What is the harm of using our powers to save our Balls?" we ask, without even understanding the basic nature of said powers. "Why do the Melachim not simply destroy all demons?" we say, knowing nothing of their relative strength. "Why don't Urians seek allies in distant lands to contend against the demons?" we wonder, knowing nothing of the history and diplomatic relationships that might exist between the powers outside of Ur. "Why did the Melachim not save Tanaach?" we rage, not knowing what the force composition and disposition of the Melachim were. Ignorant of the situation, unable to find an answer, we decide instead "The Melachim must be fools, incompetents who do not know how to do simple things, or else they must be malicious and manipulative, actively working to oppress humanity." We are the redneck who contemptuously snorts as he drives down the highway "What did the gubmint ever do for me aside from steal my hard-earned money in taxes?" We are the naive flower child asking "Why doesn't the US government simply give everyone in Africa a sandwich? They're rich and powerful enough, aren't they?" "But our ignorance is not our fault!" I hear the response. "Had the Melachim simply told us the truth, offered us full disclosure, there would have been no problems!" But this is to miss the point, for as the Melachim admit themselves, "Only One is perfect in His wisdom." Even the Melachim do not know everything, and even if they told us all they know there would still be gaps in our knowledge, areas where even the Melachim know nothing about or are uncertain of. We will forever live with ignorance in one thing or another, forever have to deal with the uncertainty of not knowing the full and complete truth, for that is ultimately what it is to be mortal and not God. However much we know there will always be something we do not, and it is our attitude towards the unknown that has been judged and found wanting, for the Melachim see that upon finding new discoveries we think only of our short-term goals and desires, however noble, and see only what lies before us instead of what awaits beyond us. "Nonsense," I hear again the cry. "Our judgement IS excellent! Given sufficient knowledge, we would make no error!" Really? And what have we done with the knowledge we DID possess, now? Leave aside what the Melachim did and didn't tell us - even with our own independent observations, we knew plenty about the Hunger Demons. We have felt the Hunger of Asherah. We had personal experience of the terror of being a Hunger Demon, and personal knowledge of what sorts of things might bring them about. We have seen a Hunger Demon, fought its imperishable wrath, watched it eat the souls of our men in in frenzied gluttony. We have spoken with Amok, been told of the Hunger that awaits us as part of our nature, told of a city destroyed by that Hunger and by the terrible nature of the thing. Down in Amalek there were even those confidently speculating that the monster we fought was what we would have become if we drained our Well! During that final, critical update, it was made perfectly plain, repeated a few times, even, what horrors would result if we chose not to die. Even had the Melachim told us nothing, even if Smythos had never shown us a dream, even if Ishamal had never warned us about the dangers of our existence, with our own eyes and ears we knew perfectly well about Hunger Demons. That was knowledge and knowledge in plenty, knowledge in spades, knowledge fit to fill a library to bursting, and what did we do with this knowledge, I ask? Did we show the vaunted judgement we so pride ourselves on? Did we demonstrate the wisdom that would inevitably result from information? Did we choose a course that led us out of disaster and into triumph? Of course not. Some voted out of spite, some out of curiosity, some out of misunderstanding, some out of dogged stubbornness, but whatever the reason in the end, despite nearly perfect knowledge, we chose poorly. And you may excuse us for the fault, say it was honest error, but that is the point, isn't it? Even with knowledge we will suffer from lapses of judgement, from "honest error" that leads into consequences worse than anyone expected. And this, you say, is he who should be trusted with knowledge? This is the one who should stand at the forefront of truth, who should probe the seas of ignorance and plumb the depths of power? This is the one who should conduct his experiments and guide his curiosity where even the Melachim dare not go? Here then is one who can be trusted not to err, be the stakes ever so high? Knowledge is no panacea, no cure-all. It does not by itself make our choices wise, nor our decisions sound. What was tested was not our knowledge but our judgement, our ability to face ignorance and yet still grasp enough of the truth to find our way through, and this test was necessary for however much we learned we would always need to face ignorance, and there would always lie great danger in that ignorance. Unable to navigate our way through an unfamiliar house without disaster, what right have we to navigate through an unfamiliar wilderness? To answer your specific question, though, if you don't think goons would respond to confirmed knowledge of immortality by going "Don't be loving boring let's do something interesting, we can't die anyways!" I don't think you've been paying attention to the thread. Hell, if we were told of immortality I honestly would not be surprised if we got a current of voters trying to kill themselves just to see what it was like. And that's to say nothing of what would happen if we found ourselves in what we thought to be an important battle with vital consequences, at which point we'd charge the lightning in sure knowledge that it wouldn't kill us anyways. Cost and consequences are not something that's had a reliable hold on the goonmind. To say nothing, of course, of the fact that this would have raised all number of issues about Mt. Har, souls, and the afterlife, but then I suppose your response to that would be "Well they should have simply told us everything, then!"
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