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Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

Parsimonious Mushroom Trailer.

:drat:

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FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

Parsimonious Mushroom Trailer.

You mean the Paraplegic Roofing Nailer?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Re: Canon, I think we can all agree that one thing is canon as hell.

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
The most canon thing.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

That is, indeed, what I think of when I think of canon. And Goku does drive later on in the manga, so it is clearly canon even if it isn't shown in it.

Piccolo never drives again but I doubt the mountains have good paths for his car.

Fionordequester
Dec 27, 2012

Actually, I respectfully disagree with you there. For as obviously flawed as this game is, there ARE a lot of really good things about it. The presentation and atmosphere, for example, are the most immediate things. No other Yu-Gi-Oh game goes out of the way to really make

Keeshhound posted:

I'm honestly sorry to hear that we didn't get that.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, there's also an extended version of the film that may have those scenes. It's this one, in case you haven't heard of it...

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Extended-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B00MX3B0CE

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

There's only 20 minutes of new content in the extended version. I haven't seen the theatrical version to compare, but the scene with Goku in a pinch and everyone helping him doesn't happen.

ParanoidLogician
Jul 24, 2012

Where did the punster go when he was defeated? The "punitentiary"!

Waffleman_ posted:

Re: Canon, I think we can all agree that one thing is canon as hell.



Without a single doubt it is.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
I need to watch that episode again. It's been many many years and the last time I was a too-serious teenager who thought the episode was stupid.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

Let's go drive cars again.

Mr. Soop
Feb 18, 2011

Bonsai Guy

Waffleman_ posted:

There's only 20 minutes of new content in the extended version. I haven't seen the theatrical version to compare, but the scene with Goku in a pinch and everyone helping him doesn't happen.

I never saw the theatrical release either, but most of the added content is just more Pilaf gang and party shenanigans from what I've read.

To be fair though, the Pilaf gang is pretty great in this movie. They took out the Trunks/Kid Mai romance in Super now though, which is probably for the best.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

The Pilaf gang has always been great. They're great and wonderful.

DukeofCA
Aug 18, 2011

I am shocked and appalled.

Onmi posted:

Also, Yūsuke Watanabe wanted the party in the film to be Krillin and Android 18's wedding, but Akira Toriyama changed this to Bulma's birthday.

This is probably the only change I'm disappointed in.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

DukeofCA posted:

This is probably the only change I'm disappointed in.

I'm not, the movie takes place after Buu, Krillin already has a daughter with 18. That's rather late to be having the wedding.

Brewsuke
Jan 8, 2014

BattleCattle posted:

Let's go drive cars again.

Drivin' on cars!

FailAtMagic
Apr 11, 2011

Onmi posted:

I'm not, the movie takes place after Buu, Krillin already has a daughter with 18. That's rather late to be having the wedding.

Believe it or not people have kids out of wedlock and than decide to marry.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

FailAtMagic posted:

Believe it or not people have kids out of wedlock and than decide to marry.

I know. 7 years after her birth is a long as gently caress time to wait.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Onmi posted:

I know. 7 years after her birth is a long as gently caress time to wait.

That's just how long it took for Toriyama to remember she existed so it checks out.

Mr. Soop
Feb 18, 2011

Bonsai Guy
For a series that doesn't exactly have the best female characterization at times, 18 is awesome. She was pretty great at breaking up the testosterone-fest in the series without feeling at all forced or anything. Love her dry wit too, she's sharp as a tack. It's a shame she got thrown on the backburner, a lot of folks including myself would like to see more of her in action. :sigh:

One thing I'd like to see in Super would be the inclusion of female Saiyans in the third saga, but part of me worries if that happens that they'd be lazy as hell/fanservicey and go with female Goku/Vegeta as Universe 6 counterparts.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
One of my favorite parts in the Buu saga is when 18 blackmails Mr. Satan for a shitload of money during the tournament finals.

dasmause
Jul 20, 2015

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

One of my favorite parts in the Buu saga is when 18 blackmails Mr. Satan for a shitload of money during the tournament finals.

Well Krillin's only talent is scamming insurance companies through his own life insurance, so someone's gotta make money

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

dasmause posted:

Well Krillin's only talent is scamming insurance companies through his own life insurance, so someone's gotta make money

Krillin's a cop now, so he brings home a reasonable amount of bacon.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Mr. Soop posted:

For a series that doesn't exactly have the best female characterization at times, 18 is awesome. She was pretty great at breaking up the testosterone-fest in the series without feeling at all forced or anything. Love her dry wit too, she's sharp as a tack. It's a shame she got thrown on the backburner, a lot of folks including myself would like to see more of her in action. :sigh:

One thing I'd like to see in Super would be the inclusion of female Saiyans in the third saga, but part of me worries if that happens that they'd be lazy as hell/fanservicey and go with female Goku/Vegeta as Universe 6 counterparts.

I was incredibly bummed that 18 didn't get to go and fight in Resurrection F. If Krillin and Tien can take part, 18 totally should have been able to.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Some Numbers posted:

Krillin's a cop now, so he brings home a reasonable amount of bacon.

Does Oolong know about this?

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

Does Oolong know about this?

Pigs are inveterate cannibals (as a subset of being extreme omnivores.) He probably cares only as far as he can guilt Krillin into sharing.

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

rotinaj posted:

I was incredibly bummed that 18 didn't get to go and fight in Resurrection F. If Krillin and Tien can take part, 18 totally should have been able to.

She has to let Krillin have SOMETHING now and again, she can't let her husband's morale drop to Yamcha levels.

Petiso
Apr 30, 2012



Kaboom Dragoon posted:

Does Oolong know about this?

He does and enjoys it.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

Petiso posted:

He does and enjoys it.



"I'm delicious."

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Pyroi posted:

She has to let Krillin have SOMETHING now and again, she can't let her husband's morale drop to Yamcha levels.

Look Krillin is incredibly cool so she let him have a boys night out with the rest. I mean bulma but she only came along to give beerus food so she doesn't count.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
I think Krillin is probably a stay at home dad.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

I think Krillin is probably a stay at home dad.

No he's a policeman, later he will go on to form the New Turtle school and train the martial artists of the future.

Yamcha on the other hand does loving nothing.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Onmi posted:

Yamcha on the other hand does loving nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u4zlP2ii4M

K-ParAdoX
Jul 12, 2004
...but.this.phone.is. always.off.it's.hook...
I've got waay too much to catch up on. I hadn't watched this show since I was a teen, then out of the blue I watched DBZ:A last week, then I see this thread. Now I'm hearing about Kai, Super, GT, BooG, Res:F, etc, I don't know what order to be watching things in if I want to catch up and there's so much!

I do love DBZ:A though. Nappa is my favorite.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

K-ParAdoX posted:

I've got waay too much to catch up on. I hadn't watched this show since I was a teen, then out of the blue I watched DBZ:A last week, then I see this thread. Now I'm hearing about Kai, Super, GT, BooG, Res:F, etc, I don't know what order to be watching things in if I want to catch up and there's so much!

I do love DBZ:A though. Nappa is my favorite.

Hey, we've got a general purpose DBZ thread too, people can probably give you a hand there. But in short: watch

1) classic Dragon Ball. It's great and you probably haven't seen it.

2) Dragon Ball Z Kai (the final arc may or may not be translated by the time you get there, so you might have to switch back to the old non-Kai dubs for the very end)

3) DON'T WATCH DRAGON BALL GT

(Bonus) try to get your hands on Jaco: Galactic Patrolman. It's a short manga by Toriyama and it's great

4) Battle of Gods

5) Resurrection F

6) Right now Dragon Ball Super is covering Battle of Gods and is only a few episodes in. Maybe wait til there's new content?

7) Seriously, don't watch GT. It's bad and nobody likes it

8) There's a million games, as you may have guessed from this LP, but the latest is Xenoverse, wherein you are the Greatest Warrior Ever summoned by the Dragon Balls to help save history. You do this by going back in time and punching assorted villains. Has character creation (you can play as a Freiza!) and unstable online play. It's basically DBZ: the preteen fanfic generator.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

It's worth mentioning that one of the villains you fight in Xenoverse is an evil mind-controlled Hercule with superpowers who you have to stop from killing everyone, while the Cell Games just kind of happen without you in the background

There's a bunch of fun little twists on the story since you're involved

It's a great game

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Kelp Plankton posted:

It's worth mentioning that one of the villains you fight in Xenoverse is an evil mind-controlled Hercule with superpowers who you have to stop from killing everyone, while the Cell Games just kind of happen without you in the background

That was a surprisingly difficult fight.

Mr. Soop
Feb 18, 2011

Bonsai Guy

Some Numbers posted:

That was a surprisingly difficult fight.

Eff that fight. That and the first Majin Buu one are straight up level check BS. :argh:

Anyway, yeah. Never watch GT. It will make you want to rip your eyeballs out. The plot is bad, the writing is bad, the animation is bad. The design of SSJ4 is kinda' cool though, I will admit. It's just a shame that it had to be in that series of all things.

Brewsuke
Jan 8, 2014

Onmi posted:

Yamcha on the other hand does loving nothing.

Didn't he become a baseball player? How did that turn out?

EDIT: Oh, apparently that was between DB and DBZ. Wow, I am really lacking in Dragon Ball knowledge. Honestly, it's kind of sad.

Brewsuke fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Sep 2, 2015

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Brewsuke posted:

I might not be remembering this right, but didn't he become a baseball player? How did that turn out?

He made a lot of money playing Baseball. Meanwhile Krillin forms the New Turtle school (With the idea that teamwork and support is what will allow humanity to fight against aliens and demons), Tenshinhan founds the New Crane school (With the idea that gently caress teamwork you just need a big enough Ki blast.) while Goten and Trunks found 'Kikoukenjutsu Sword School' Which is literally 'Energy Control Fencing' but I would translate personally as Spirit Sword Fighting or similar. gently caress even Pan gets in on it, when Mr. Satan's Telecommunicated Satan-style Martial Arts Course turns out to be worthless TOO ADVANCED FOR THE FILTHY PLEBS, people storm Satan House to get their money back. So Pan beats them all up and it's re-branded the Pan Fighting Network, which she becomes the instructor of.

In fact the last time Yamcha makes an official mention in the annals of history is getting stabbed by Gero.

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Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
Update Eight: Chi Chi's Wedding Dress Will Burn!? Can Goku Put Out The Flames Of Fire Mountain!?

Howdy, folks, and welcome back! Last time, on Attack of the Saiyans, we beat the poo poo out of Piccolo Jr. Today, Goku and Chi Chi are getting ready for their wedding ceremony, so let's head out.



poo poo's on fire this update.



To kick things off, let me tell you, I'm not feeling the best today. This update isn't very long and is pretty much all :words: but it sets up the next one, which is a bit more actiony.



For a DBZ game, it's amazing how much people talk and talk and talk. You'd think I'd remember that, considering I've played through this game four or five times, but much like all the emotion bubbles, I seem to not remember that.



Then again, there's also a "Skip" button for cutscenes that I abuse when I'm playing this for fun.







If you're wondering what the Ox-King is the king of, he's the king of Fire Mountain. He also trained with Grandpa Gohan, under Master Roshi, and the Ox-King is a pretty capable fighter.



But, enough of that; if the coloring weren't enough of an indication, we're in a flashback.



As for why this dialog is set against the backdrop of these two fighting at the tournament, I don't know.



Still, Chi Chi and Goku had met a while before this.



Which Goku had forgotten about, as he's Goku and had other stuff on his mind.



Probably noodles and sandwiches, in fact.



But he had once promised Chi Chi he would marry her.



Which she remembered, since I doubt a gal forgets when a man promises to marry her.





Did you think I was just making a silly joke when I said Goku thought a widow was a kind of burrito?



However, he's a man who sticks to his promises, so he's going to marry Chi Chi.







Doesn't it, though?





That's a big goddamned castle.



See, at one point, Ox-King's castle used to be surrounded completely by fire, which he had asked a wizard to do. It would keep intruders out, y'know?



However, the blaze reached a point where even Ox-King himself couldn't get in there, and that's just no bueno.



Goku had first met the Ox-King when he went into the castle to obtain a Dragon Ball.



He ended up fighting the Ox-King, too, as it's Dragon Ball and you have to have a fight somewhere in there, right?



Eventually, Master Roshi ended up coming by to help put out the blaze.



Roshi succeeded, but he put out a lot more than just the fire.



Using a Kamehameha Wave, Roshi blew up the Ox-King's castle on accident.



And the goddamned mountain it was on.



Don't look at me like that, Chi Chi. Just reporting the facts, ma'am.



Being a king, Ox-King is filthy rich and has his own treasure room.



Never mind that our main character is marrying Chi Chi, his daughter, who presumably could get a load of dough from him if she wanted to.



No, if we want money, we have to do it the old fashioned way by kicking the poo poo out of enemies.



Maybe I shouldn't talk about cold, hard cash when a sentimental moment is going on.



Don't ask much about Chi Chi's mother; very little is known about her, other than she died of an illness the same year Chi Chi was born.





And you get to wear it when you get married! :iamafag:



Okay, admit it, how many of you were hoping Ox-King was going to put that on?



Oh, and Chi Chi now wants a wedding ceremony.



I don't know if we ever see Chi Chi in a wedding dress. A quick Google search didn't bring up anything, so I'm assuming that we never see her wear it.


Never mind, I'm dumb.





Goku, don't question it. Just let it happen, as it'll be easier on you.



I imagine telling Goku this is like telling a toddler that the car won't start until they have their seat belt on.



Oh, Ox-King, you brought it up. You knew what would happen here.



At this point, I think Ox-King has just the small village, but that's not bad, considering some old guy blew up his castle and the mountain it was on.



Thankfully, there's no filler quest to go and get support from the villagers. Even though the stuff we're doing now, if I remember right, is just anime filler.



Oh, yeah, didn't mention it before, but the Ox-King is a huge loving dude. Like, really goddamned big.



His size also tends to fluctuate, and he's often shown being bigger than that. There are some shots where even the tallest of the cast would barely reach his stomach.



Also, according to the Dragon Ball Wiki, apparently Ox-King has a power level of 900. Bit of an interesting factoid, especially since around this point, Goku is barely breaking 400.



The Wiki also says that Ox-King was more about raw power than actual technique. He doesn't know the Kamehameha, despite training with Roshi, because he just couldn't get it down.



However, I'm pretty sure he could--



--Uh-oh. What the hell is this?



Uh-huh.



Goku and Chi Chi come running out.







Also, this is a good time to mention that the Ox-King's castle is on fire.





Ox-King bravely offers to go and rescue Chi Chi's dress while she and Goku escape.





And off he goes. That doorway is probably also around 12 feet tall. The only character I know of who is normally taller than the Ox-King is probably Broly.



He'll be fine. Hopefully.





He's been gone barely five seconds, guys. Give him a chance.



However, it's already far too hot for Goku to get any closer to helping the Ox-King.



Now, the fire doesn't look like much from here, right? It really doesn't.



Yeah, it's just a wee bit more of a blaze than those inside shots indicate.





Yeah, because that worked so well the last time.





I guess if he blows it all up again and it's no longer on fire, he technically succeeded.





Chi Chi remembers what happened last time, and at this point, Goku is much stronger than Roshi.



Then again, the DB Wiki also maintains that Roshi used a "MAX Power Kamehameha" which is different from the regular Kamehameha. And yes, they capitalized "MAX" just like that.



And also apparently a skill he never taught anyone else, or else something he learned himself just by refining the technique. Still, the major difference is that the MAX Power version is just a bigger, more gently caress-off inducing Kamehameha wave.







The screen whites out as Goku attempts to rescue Ox-King.



However, it's of no use. poo poo's still on fire, yo.





That's probably better than blowing everything up, but what about everything being on fire, Goku?



I don't think a fire that size is just going to putter out, like one of those lovely snakes awful parents give their children on the 4th of July.





: My pants are on fire! Does that make me a liar?





Considering he's not on gently caress-fire, Goku, I think he's fine.



Guess what we'll have to go find?



Yeah, it's this magic thing that--



gently caress it. Roshi will explain from the Negative Dimension.



The best part of this is not how Roshi knows about it, but what he was using it for.



If you don't think Roshi is goddamned amazing, you need to get the gently caress out of this thread and go reevaluate your life.



Seriously. Legendary cloud and rain-making object, and the old coot was using it as a pot-holder.



Time for a new character!



It's not Kami, Roshi, Mr. Popo or anyone else.



However, it is Roshi's older sister, who is well over five hundred years old.



Her Japanese name is Uranai Baba, which translates to something like All-Seeing Crone.



And so, without time to waste, we rush off to Baba's Palace.



Baba is an interesting character, in that she can see the future (she makes a business of it, actually, charging ten million Zeni a pop for it), is old and wise (I'm half-right on that, though), can strike deals with King Yemma (we'll meet him later, so more on that then) to bring dead people back for a single day, and can use hypnosis, telekinesis and has some magical abilities, but we only see those in the anime, if I remember right.



"What kind of waves? Well, I don't know! Microwaves? Cosmic waves? ...Oh no, I hope it's not cosmic waves! I'm scared of those! Aaaaahhh!"

Yeah, that's the real dialog. I didn't make this guy a portrait, as I'm feeling lazy.



And in we go.





There's a shop up here, without much interesting in it, and also the spot where Baba has her five warriors, who include a vampire, a mummy, Spike the Devilman and Grandpa Gohan, brought back from the dead for a single day.



There's a lot of information in Dragon Ball, and I know I'm not doing the best in explaining it all. If someone in the thread wants to take a crack at it, be my guest. I'm not the most knowledgeable Dragon Ball guy around.



And Baba has a cold. Not that this affects anything.



Sure she could. She can see the future, y'know, as well as watch just about anything and see whatever with her crystal ball.



Guess you didn't see that one coming.



I know how you feel. I felt pretty crappy earlier today, too.





: I see a spiky-haired moron who won't leave me to my misery, but...



Despite saying that, she's still going to point us in the right direction.





Excellent question, Goku.



See, the Dragon Ball world is one of those where plenty of myths and legends are actually true and valid explanations for various mysteries of the world.



However, things are very bad in the furnace at the moment.





Follow the gigantic, gently caress-off flames?



Heard? I'm willing to bet you know exactly how to get there, but you're just grumpy from being sick.



This is yet another character based on someone from the Journey To The West, where Dragon Ball got a lot of its inspiration from. I'm not going to go into that, because, seriously, that's a lot of stuff to talk about.



Or maybe we'll have to fight her to get the Bansho Fan. With this series, it's hard to tell.





And away we go! To Mount Five Element!





Which is north of Baba's Palace, thankfully. And, according (once again) to the Dragon Ball Wiki, Mount Five Element is the antipodal region to Fire Mountain. I thought that would mean they'd have to be on literally opposite sides of the planet, but it's early, I've just woken up, and I'm probably not firing on all cylinders.



Mt. Five Element is one of those mountains guarded by a bigass wall and a giant gate you have to go through. It's very tricky to get in here.



:stare:

That looks scary as poo poo, so let's save that for the next time, shall we?

The next time where we go in here, beat up monsters and maybe recover the Bansho Fan so that Ox-King doesn't get roasted alive! Stay tuned!

Leave fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Sep 2, 2015

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